Russia Russia Russia confirmed today by Guiliani associate in House testimony

[MisterBeale]

What are the crimes you refer to?

What I LOVED. . . was AOC told the best witness. . . while badgering him, the thing that the Biden clan was doing, is NOT a crime, which is what they are prosecuting Trump with.. .

AOC claims ‘RICO is not a crime’ in testy exchange with Biden impeachment witness Tony Bobulinski​

What is RICO and why are prosecutors using it against Trump?

Criminal charges filed against former U.S. President Donald Trump in Georgia state court include allegations that he violated an anti-organized crime law known as RICO that is more expansive than its federal counterpart.

www.reuters.com

 

[Crepitus]

Something intelligent folks on the left and right, BOTH agree on.

Fraid not.

 

[Care4all]

What I LOVED. . . was AOC told the best witness. . . while badgering him, the thing that the Biden clan was doing, is NOT a crime, which is what they are prosecuting Trump with.. .

AOC claims ‘RICO is not a crime’ in testy exchange with Biden impeachment witness Tony Bobulinski​

What is RICO and why are prosecutors using it against Trump?

Criminal charges filed against former U.S. President Donald Trump in Georgia state court include allegations that he violated an anti-organized crime law known as RICO that is more expansive than its federal counterpart.

www.reuters.com

From your article.....

The main requirements under the federal RICO law are at least two underlying crimes and participation in a criminal enterprise over a long period of time.

Georgia's RICO law does not require criminal enterprises to be long running and lists nearly 50 underlying crimes that qualify as racketeering, compared with 35 under its federal counterpart.

So, what are the TWO crimes?

That is what she was asking. You can't have a RICO charge without at minimum, two underlying crimes.... So what are the crimes Biden committed?

 

[MisterBeale]

From your article.....

The main requirements under the federal RICO law are at least two underlying crimes and participation in a criminal enterprise over a long period of time.

Georgia's RICO law does not require criminal enterprises to be long running and lists nearly 50 underlying crimes that qualify as racketeering, compared with 35 under its federal counterpart.

So, what are the TWO crimes?

That is what she was asking. You can't have a RICO charge without at minimum, two underlying crimes.... So what are the crimes Biden committed?

Money laundering and blackmail.

 

[Mac1958]

What I LOVED. . . was AOC told the best witness. . . while badgering him, the thing that the Biden clan was doing, is NOT a crime, which is what they are prosecuting Trump with.. .

AOC claims ‘RICO is not a crime’ in testy exchange with Biden impeachment witness Tony Bobulinski​

What is RICO and why are prosecutors using it against Trump?

Criminal charges filed against former U.S. President Donald Trump in Georgia state court include allegations that he violated an anti-organized crime law known as RICO that is more expansive than its federal counterpart.

www.reuters.com

She, of course, is correct. RICO is not a crime. A person does not "commit RICO". It is a statute under which a group of people can be prosected FOR a crime.

It is not the crime. The crime is separate and must be clearly stated. Like "conspiracy". Then it can be prosecuted under the RICO framework.

Once again, you people clearly demonstrate that you don't understand simple things like crimes, evidence, definitions and meanings. And then you mock.

How does this happen? How do you not know this?

Holy shit.

 

[Care4all]

Just because Russian intel was the source of the information, does not necessarily make it untrue

It was Russian Ukrainian created. It's a long complicated story, which you seem to like getting down to the nitty gritty on conspiracies and other things to see what is going on BEHIND THE SCENE, so take what I give you in this cut and paste, spend time going in to links, especially any from the Washington Post to dive in to it....

It'll also lead to John Solomon's involvement in the media as the hired journalist to spread the crap....

Involvement with Trump, his associates and Ukraineedit​

On March 19, 2018, Toensing and her husband, diGenova, were hired by President Donald Trump to serve on his legal team for the Special Counsel investigation.[24][25] DiGenova served as the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia from 1983 to 1988.[26][27] However, Trump cancelled the hires several days later due to potential conflicts of interest, though Trump personal attorney Jay Sekulow said they might assist in other legal matters.[28][29]

Toensing represents Mark Corallo, who had previously served as a spokesman for Trump's private legal team during the investigation into possible collusion between members of Trump's 2016 campaign and the Russian government.[30][31] Robert Mueller interviewed Corallo as part of the Special Counsel investigation.[32][33]

Toensing has also represented Sam Clovis, a former Trump campaign co-chair, and Erik Prince, the founder of the private military company Blackwater, who has informally advised Trump.[27]

In spring 2019, Toensing began representing former Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Shokin and then-prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko. Giuliani and his associates met with Lutsenko in early 2019 to discuss possible investigations of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Then-United States ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch had openly criticized Lutsenko for his poor anti-corruption record, and Lutsenko spread false allegations about Yovanovitch, which he later recanted. Giuliani considered Yovanovitch an obstacle to investigations of the Bidens and persuaded Trump to remove her from office in spring 2019. By April 2021, a continuing federal investigation was examining Yovanovitch's removal and evidence relating to Toensing.[34][35]

In July 2019, Toensing and her husband were hired by the Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash to defend him from extradition to the United States on a bribery indictment.[36][37][38] He has been living in Austria since being arrested there at the request of American authorities in 2014 and released on $155 million bail.[39] In 2017, the United States Justice Department described Firtash as an "upper-echelon [associate] of Russian organized crime."[40] As a middleman for the Russian natural gas giant Gazprom, Firtash was known for funneling money to campaigns of pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine[41] and is also a onetime business partner of Paul Manafort, a Trump 2016 campaign chairman.[42] Firtash obtained his middleman position with the agreement of Russian president Vladimir Putin and, according to Firtash, Russian organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich.[43][39] When he was vice president, Biden had urged the Ukrainian government to eliminate middlemen such as Firtash from the country's natural gas industry, and to reduce the country's reliance on imports of Russian natural gas.[44]

After Firtash hired diGenova and Toensing, Giuliani acquired a statement[45] from former Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Shokin that falsely alleged Biden had pressured Ukraine to fire him in an effort to cover up corruption committed by himself and his son. Shokin's statement noted that it was prepared "at the request of lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash ('DF'), for use in legal proceedings in Austria."[46][47] Giuliani had presented the Shokin statement during television appearances, and Bloomberg News reported that its sources told them Giuliani's publicity of the Shokin statement had greatly reduced the chances of the Justice Department dropping the charges against Firtash, as it would appear to be a political quid pro quo.[48]

In August 2019, Toensing and diGenova met with Attorney General William Barr to argue against the charges on Firtash. Prior to that meeting, Barr had been briefed in detail on the initial Trump-Ukraine scandal whistleblower complaint within the CIA that had been forwarded to the Justice Department, as well as on Giuliani's activities in Ukraine. Barr declined to intercede in the case, according to sources who talked to The Washington Post.[49][44]

In October 2019, Lev Parnas, a businessman who was working for diGenova and Toensing's firm as an interpreter in the Firtash case, was one of two men arrested at Dulles International Airport and accused by federal prosecutors of funneling foreign money into U.S. elections.[50] The New York Times reported in November 2019 that Giuliani had directed Parnas to approach Firtash with the recommendation to hire diGenova and Toensing, with the proposition that Firtash could help to provide compromising information on Biden, an arrangement Parnas' attorney Joseph Bondy described was "part of any potential resolution to [Firtash's] extradition matter."[44] In November 2019, Bondy told The Washington Post that Parnas had been part of a group that met frequently in spring 2019 at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., to discuss the Biden matter, among other topics. The group, according to Bondy, was convened by Giuliani, Trump's personal attorney, and included Parnas, his business associate Igor Fruman, as well as journalist John Solomon and Toensing and diGenova.[51] Phone records unearthed during impeachment proceedings in 2019 revealed that there were regular contacts between Solomon, Giuliani, Toensing, Toensing's client and Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, and other Trump allies.[52]

Toensing and diGenova were frequent guests on Fox News and Fox Business throughout 2019.[10] In November 2019, diGenova used an appearance on Fox Business to spread conspiracy theories about George Soros and make unevidenced claims that Soros controlled the State Department. After that appearance, which resulted in widespread calls for Fox to ban diGenova, Toensing and diGenova stopped appearing on the network.[53]

In November 2020, Trump named Toensing, diGenova, Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis to join a legal team led by Giuliani to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential election in which Trump was defeated.[13]

On April 28, 2021, federal agents executed a search warrant related to the Justice Department's ongoing criminal probe into Giuliani's pro-Trump political activities in Ukraine, at the home of Toensing, taking her cell phone.[54] Her law firm released a statement asserting she had been told she was not a target of an investigation.[55] In a May 2021 court filing, investigators disclosed that in late 2019 they acquired a search warrant for Toensing's iCloud account, and that of Giuliani, and for an email account belonging to her. Toensing and Giuiliani demanded to review the documents underlying the warrants, asserting their attorney-client privilege with clients may have been violated, which investigators disputed, arguing the attorneys had no special privilege to review the documents prior to any charges. Investigators said they employed a "filter team" to prevent them from seeing information potentially protected by attorney-client privilege.[56][57][58]

Toensing and her husband were among several Trump associates who were emailed by OANN anchor Christina Bobb on December 13, 2020, regarding efforts by Republicans in seven states to appoint false electors and create fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to be submitted to vice president Mike Pence for certification on January 6, 2021.[59]

 

[Smokin' OP]

About $5 million in payments went to Biden family members

"From 2014 to 2020, Biden family members received about $4.94 million from sources with ties to Ukraine, Romania, China and Kazakhstan. The memos show these payments went to:

Hunter Biden, the president’s son;

James Biden, the president’s brother;

Hallie Biden, the wife of Joe Biden’s late son Beau, who also had a relationship with Hunter after Beau’s passing;

And an unknown account the memo characterized as a "Biden" account without explanation.

In many instances, payments to Biden family members were sent by wire to Robinson Walker LLC, a company owned by an associate of Hunter Biden, before they were sent to Biden family accounts.

By PolitFact’s count, about 89% of the money Biden family members received in payments — approximately $4.4 million — went to Hunter Biden or his businesses."

Memos show Biden associates, not kin, got most foreign cash

Announcing an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden on Sept. 12, House Speaker Kevin McCarthy said a Republican-l

www.politifact.com

Well, if we are going to deflect.

Jared Kushner defends controversial $2bn Saudi investment​

BBC
https://www.bbc.com › world-us-canada-68296877
Feb 14, 2024 — Jared Kushner worked closely with Saudi Arabia during his stint as an advisor to Donald Trump. Donald Trump's son-in-law and former adviser ...

Jared Kushner's $2 Billion Investment From Saudi Arabia​

Forbes
https://www.forbes.com › Business › Breaking News
17 hours ago — Republicans on Wednesday delayed Democrats' efforts to subpoena Jared Kushner over a $2 billion investment his private equity firm received ...

Teabaggers are going insane over lemonade stand robbery.
But ignore a bank being robbed.

 

[Care4all]

Money laundering and blackmail.

Why didn't Bobulinski say and show that....?

 

[Care4all]

No, you are right, it isn't.

I have heard this scandle compared to when Jared Kushner made money dealing with the Saudis.

There is one big difference here. .. WE KNOW what the money was made, and what Kushner DID!

We haven't got the first damn clue what Hunter did to make that money. That is all the Republicans have been asking, and so far, have yet to get an answer. . .

. . in fact, Hunter won't even show up to answer questions.

They never asked hunter what he did in business with the different foreign businesses.

Witch hunt!

 

[MisterBeale]

It was Russian Ukrainian created. It's a long complicated story, which you seem to like getting down to the nitty gritty on conspiracies and other things to see what is going on BEHIND THE SCENE, so take what I give you in this cut and paste, spend time going in to links, especially any from the Washington Post to dive in to it....

It'll also lead to John Solomon's involvement in the media as the hired journalist to spread the crap....

Involvement with Trump, his associates and Ukraineedit​

On March 19, 2018, Toensing and her husband, diGenova, were hired by President Donald Trump to serve on his legal team for the Special Counsel investigation.[24][25] DiGenova served as the United States Attorney for the District of Columbia from 1983 to 1988.[26][27] However, Trump cancelled the hires several days later due to potential conflicts of interest, though Trump personal attorney Jay Sekulow said they might assist in other legal matters.[28][29]

Toensing represents Mark Corallo, who had previously served as a spokesman for Trump's private legal team during the investigation into possible collusion between members of Trump's 2016 campaign and the Russian government.[30][31] Robert Mueller interviewed Corallo as part of the Special Counsel investigation.[32][33]

Toensing has also represented Sam Clovis, a former Trump campaign co-chair, and Erik Prince, the founder of the private military company Blackwater, who has informally advised Trump.[27]

In spring 2019, Toensing began representing former Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Shokin and then-prosecutor general Yuriy Lutsenko. Giuliani and his associates met with Lutsenko in early 2019 to discuss possible investigations of Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Then-United States ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch had openly criticized Lutsenko for his poor anti-corruption record, and Lutsenko spread false allegations about Yovanovitch, which he later recanted. Giuliani considered Yovanovitch an obstacle to investigations of the Bidens and persuaded Trump to remove her from office in spring 2019. By April 2021, a continuing federal investigation was examining Yovanovitch's removal and evidence relating to Toensing.[34][35]

In July 2019, Toensing and her husband were hired by the Ukrainian oligarch Dmitry Firtash to defend him from extradition to the United States on a bribery indictment.[36][37][38] He has been living in Austria since being arrested there at the request of American authorities in 2014 and released on $155 million bail.[39] In 2017, the United States Justice Department described Firtash as an "upper-echelon [associate] of Russian organized crime."[40] As a middleman for the Russian natural gas giant Gazprom, Firtash was known for funneling money to campaigns of pro-Russia politicians in Ukraine[41] and is also a onetime business partner of Paul Manafort, a Trump 2016 campaign chairman.[42] Firtash obtained his middleman position with the agreement of Russian president Vladimir Putin and, according to Firtash, Russian organized crime boss Semion Mogilevich.[43][39] When he was vice president, Biden had urged the Ukrainian government to eliminate middlemen such as Firtash from the country's natural gas industry, and to reduce the country's reliance on imports of Russian natural gas.[44]

After Firtash hired diGenova and Toensing, Giuliani acquired a statement[45] from former Ukrainian prosecutor general Viktor Shokin that falsely alleged Biden had pressured Ukraine to fire him in an effort to cover up corruption committed by himself and his son. Shokin's statement noted that it was prepared "at the request of lawyers acting for Dmitry Firtash ('DF'), for use in legal proceedings in Austria."[46][47] Giuliani had presented the Shokin statement during television appearances, and Bloomberg News reported that its sources told them Giuliani's publicity of the Shokin statement had greatly reduced the chances of the Justice Department dropping the charges against Firtash, as it would appear to be a political quid pro quo.[48]

In August 2019, Toensing and diGenova met with Attorney General William Barr to argue against the charges on Firtash. Prior to that meeting, Barr had been briefed in detail on the initial Trump-Ukraine scandal whistleblower complaint within the CIA that had been forwarded to the Justice Department, as well as on Giuliani's activities in Ukraine. Barr declined to intercede in the case, according to sources who talked to The Washington Post.[49][44]

In October 2019, Lev Parnas, a businessman who was working for diGenova and Toensing's firm as an interpreter in the Firtash case, was one of two men arrested at Dulles International Airport and accused by federal prosecutors of funneling foreign money into U.S. elections.[50] The New York Times reported in November 2019 that Giuliani had directed Parnas to approach Firtash with the recommendation to hire diGenova and Toensing, with the proposition that Firtash could help to provide compromising information on Biden, an arrangement Parnas' attorney Joseph Bondy described was "part of any potential resolution to [Firtash's] extradition matter."[44] In November 2019, Bondy told The Washington Post that Parnas had been part of a group that met frequently in spring 2019 at the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C., to discuss the Biden matter, among other topics. The group, according to Bondy, was convened by Giuliani, Trump's personal attorney, and included Parnas, his business associate Igor Fruman, as well as journalist John Solomon and Toensing and diGenova.[51] Phone records unearthed during impeachment proceedings in 2019 revealed that there were regular contacts between Solomon, Giuliani, Toensing, Toensing's client and Giuliani associate Lev Parnas, and other Trump allies.[52]

Toensing and diGenova were frequent guests on Fox News and Fox Business throughout 2019.[10] In November 2019, diGenova used an appearance on Fox Business to spread conspiracy theories about George Soros and make unevidenced claims that Soros controlled the State Department. After that appearance, which resulted in widespread calls for Fox to ban diGenova, Toensing and diGenova stopped appearing on the network.[53]

In November 2020, Trump named Toensing, diGenova, Sidney Powell and Jenna Ellis to join a legal team led by Giuliani to challenge the results of the 2020 presidential election in which Trump was defeated.[13]

On April 28, 2021, federal agents executed a search warrant related to the Justice Department's ongoing criminal probe into Giuliani's pro-Trump political activities in Ukraine, at the home of Toensing, taking her cell phone.[54] Her law firm released a statement asserting she had been told she was not a target of an investigation.[55] In a May 2021 court filing, investigators disclosed that in late 2019 they acquired a search warrant for Toensing's iCloud account, and that of Giuliani, and for an email account belonging to her. Toensing and Giuiliani demanded to review the documents underlying the warrants, asserting their attorney-client privilege with clients may have been violated, which investigators disputed, arguing the attorneys had no special privilege to review the documents prior to any charges. Investigators said they employed a "filter team" to prevent them from seeing information potentially protected by attorney-client privilege.[56][57][58]

Toensing and her husband were among several Trump associates who were emailed by OANN anchor Christina Bobb on December 13, 2020, regarding efforts by Republicans in seven states to appoint false electors and create fraudulent certificates of ascertainment to be submitted to vice president Mike Pence for certification on January 6, 2021.[59]

I find. . . when it comes to politics, WaPo, NYT, and the wiki, are handmaiden's of the intel establishment.

They wouldn't know truth and facts if it fell out of the sky, landed on them, flopped around, and died.

This source was founded by the guy that broke Iran-Contra

. . . interestingly enough, not a soul was sanctioned, and nothing happened on THAT, what the hell does that tell you about the corruption of the "people's government," and who is really running the show. . hmmmm?

The Lost Journalistic Standards of Russia-gate

Exclusive: The Russia-gate hysteria has witnessed a widespread collapse of journalistic standards as major U.S. news outlets ignore rules about how to treat evidence in dispute, writes Robert Parry. By Robert Parry A danger in both journalism and intelligence is to allow an unproven or ser

consortiumnews.com

Blaming Russia for the Internet 'Sewer'

Exclusive: As the Russia-gate hysteria spirals down from the implausible to the absurd, almost every bad thing is blamed on the Russians, even how they turned the previously pristine Internet into a “sewer,” reports Robert Parry. By Robert Parry With the U.S. government offering tens of mi

consortiumnews.com

IMPEACHMENT: Innuendo and Evidence

Consortium News' Patrick Lawrence will be daily covering the U.S. House inquiry into the impeachment of President Joe Biden. This is his first report. For many weeks the Democratic Party and the media that cravenly serve it have dismissed House investigations into the Biden family’s potentia

consortiumnews.com

IMPEACHMENT: ‘Cognitive Warfare’ on Capitol Hill

We must keep our wits about us while the Oversight Committee considers evidence on whether to impeach President Joe Biden, as the cognitive warfare warriors attempt to subvert reality, says Patrick Lawrence. By Patrick Lawrence Special to Consortium News This is the second in Consortium New

consortiumnews.com

IMPEACHMENT: A Rapid Succession of Events

Patrick Lawrence on the indictment of key witness Alexander Smirnov; the under-reported testimony of Jason Galanis from a federal prison; and Hunter Biden’s testimony under oath. By Patrick Lawrence Special to Consortium News This is the fourth in Consortium News’ series on the congre

consortiumnews.com

". . . . There are three things to consider here. One, in Hunter Biden’s initial response, James Biden’s equity — 10 percent in the Gilliar summary — is now 20 percent, leaving no room for a 10 percent share to Joe Biden. Two, to explain the “10 percent for the Big Guy” as a partner’s trial balloon makes absolutely no sense. If Gilliar wanted to bring the out-of-office Joe Biden into a partnership it stands to reason he simply would have said so.

Three and most important here, there is no documentary evidence that Hunter Biden objected or otherwise questioned the 10 percent allocation Gilliar noted in the May 2017 email. When pressed repeatedly, Biden says, “I’m not even sure whether I ever fully read this,” in reference to the Gilliar note.

And at no point, finally and far from least, did Hunter Biden deny that his father was “the Big Guy.” At the conclusion of Biden’s testimony, the identity of the Big Guy is left as a complete mystery.

Hunter Biden’s testimony is full of such anomalies and hard-to-believe assertions. He relied heavily on his dissolute years of drunkenness and drug use as he failed to recall, roughly two dozen times, key events, letters he wrote, documents he signed, and meetings he attended. There is the much-noted text he sent via WhatsApp to a Chinese investor in 2017 saying, “I am sitting here with my father and we would like to know why the commitment has not been fulfilled.”

Asked about this during his interrogation Biden replied that he did not remember sending the message and if he had he was either drunk or high. “I take full responsibility for being an absolute ass and idiot when I sent this message, if I did send this message,” he told the committee. The Chinese investor wired $5 million to one of Biden’s partnerships a few days later.

It is possible, of course, that Hunter Biden did fake Joe Biden’s presence when he wrote the WhatsApp message to the Chinese executive. Bluffs of this kind are common enough in business. But even if this were so, Hunter Biden invoked precisely the kind of father-son partnership Devine described in Laptop from Hell and that the House Committee alleges was at the heart of their influence-selling schemes.

Asked about funds from business ventures disbursed directly to family members without going through his account, Biden replied, “I sometimes can be, oxymoronically, cheap. It’s to save on two wire transfers.”

As these examples suggest, the impression the transcript leaves is of a man glossing events and business dealings or otherwise papering over them, more than occasionally filibustering the committee’s interrogators, in a fashion unlikely to withstand a formal trial were his father to be impeached and he called as a witness.

The events of the past several weeks suggest some conclusions as to the direction of the House Committee’s case.

First and most significantly, President Biden and his allies in the Democratic Party and the DoJ will continue to instrumentalize the Justice Department for their shared political ends. This amounts to the wanton corruption of the nation’s judicial system — an act of institutional destruction from which America may not recover.

As of Hunter Biden’s deposition in the House late last month, the flimsiness of his case is now perfectly clear. The blanket denials — in policy circles, in the media — of the validity of the House Committee’s investigations allegations are threadbare. As the Times reported in a moment of candor months ago, the White House’s strategy is to fight the investigation in “the court of public opinion,” not in House hearing rooms. It is, in other words, to make a media circus of it.

The House will have enough to bring a vote to impeach to the floor. This is all but certain. Whether it will do so, and the outcome of such a vote if there is one, are among the outstanding questions now."


. . . but? If you want to be gaslit and lied to by BIG BROTHER? That is yoar right as an American!

(. . . this source, by the way, tends to lean left, but goes strictly BY THE FACTS. They condemn what is going on in Gaza, and support freeing Assange. I had personally thought you would be smahter than this. . . )

 

[MisterBeale]

Why didn't Bobulinski say and show that....?

Because. . . and I don't have all the congressional reps. names memorized. . .but one of the reps. had already played/ admitted into the record of the hearing, of the president Biden, bragging about money laundering and bribery!

 

[MisterBeale]

They never asked hunter what he did in business with the different foreign businesses.

Witch hunt!

Agreed. You don't think it a bit sus' that Hunter and Devon Archer didn't show up to a hearing they were requested at?

 

[MisterBeale]

Did any of you even watch the full hearings?

 

[MarcATL]

The corruption that infests the Republican Party is just staggering.

 

[Aldo Raine]

LMAO I suspect this thread was started because testimony in the House today by a Biden business partner is producing BOMBSHELL Biden crimes.

As always u figured wrong!
MAGA

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

She, of course, is correct. RICO is not a crime. A person does not "commit RICO". It is a statute under which a group of people can be prosected FOR a crime.

It is not the crime. The crime is separate and must be clearly stated. Like "conspiracy". Then it can be prosecuted under the RICO framework.

Once again, you people clearly demonstrate that you don't understand simple things like crimes, evidence, definitions and meanings. And then you mock.

How does this happen? How do you not know this?

Holy shit.

It's amazing, isn't it? One peek into the right wing white noise machine gives you your answer.

They really are abjectly ignorant of the basic facts. Because they are not shown these facts.

 

[Mac1958]

It's amazing, isn't it? One peek into the right wing white noise machine gives you your answer.

They really are abjectly ignorant of the basic facts. Because they are not shown these facts.

We (across the political spectrum) talk about how they exist in an alternate reality. Their own words, their own facts, their own standards, their own version of "evidence".

And we're right. They believe only what they are told in that universe.

 

[Harry Dresden]

We (across the political spectrum) talk about how they exist in an alternate reality. Their own words, their own facts, their own standards, their own version of "evidence".

And we're right. They believe only what they are told in that universe.

oh geezus lol.....

 

[TheYellowKing]

...in House hearings today. He also points out Pete Sessions', Ron Johnson's and Lindsay Graham's complicity with trying to use Shokin against the Bidens. It’s clear. Russia Russia Russia was no hoax. Damn. Who would have thought?

"The only information ever pushed on the Bidens and Ukraine has come from one source and one source only: Russia and Russian agents," he said, adding that impeachment proceedings against Biden were "predicated on false information spread by the Kremlin."

“Every person integral to this shadow diplomacy knew that the Biden corruption rumors were baseless," Parnas said. "Then-Congressman Devin Nunes, Senator Ron Johnson, and many other individuals understood that they were pushing a false narrative. The same goes for John Solomon, Sean Hannity, and media personnel, particularly at Fox News, who used that narrative to manipulate the public ahead of the 2020 election. They are still doing this today, as we approach the 2024 election.”

As if that weren't bad enough, the House GOP had another "impeachment witness" speak who has been jailed for $80M in pension fraud.

Lev Parnas, ex-Giuliani associate, testifies allegations against Bidens are false and 'spread by the Kremlin'

So this doesn't get moved to Conspiracy even though it's been proven to be as such?

 

[j-mac]

It's time to round up and charge everyone involved, including (maybe especially) congresscritters.

Translation: Jail all opposition…Right comrade?