Russia is winning the Global War - Food war

[DarthTrader]

Food as a Weapon

Herbert Hoover fed not only the citizens of Belgium but also, in the hope that they would throw off the Bolsheviks, the citizens of Soviet Russia. Bertrand M. Patenaude has another remarkable story.

www.hoover.org

I know I troll a lot but what I really wish to do is open American's eyes up to the fact that the US is losing a global war. This war isn't fought with armies, it's fought with dollars and wheat and uranium and oil and lithium and nickel....

Russia is winning, Americans need to understand this, because Russia is taking a page from the US playbook that's as old as the Irish Potato famine but was industrialized in WW1.

Russia holds so many commodity cards now, looming daggers over so many strategic countries like Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, South Africa, Nigeria, Brazil, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Turkey.

These daggers, Kinjals as they are called in Russian, are poised to strike the hearts of so many nations that need food, fertilizer, oil and other commodities to function.

The US has abdicated its ability to be a provider, a father, to the nations. This doesn't have to continue, but idiots like Democrats and Biden sure as hell don't have answers. I was skeptical of Trump's trade war against China, but in hindsight of the Evergrande debacle and the aggressive posture of China RMB as a reserve currency take over to USD, Trump was right.

Russia is proving to the world that the US cannot save it from the four horsemen.

If US wants to win this global war for hearts and minds, it better change quick, and show that it can stave off famines, plagues, and even wars. Which right now...it's lost on all three.

Right now Russia is proving that if you're an ally to the US, Russia can unleash a plague, a famine, or war upon you with impunity. And Russia is proving to the world that they maybe need to rethink who their "friends" are. The proselytizer of Democracy, or the hand that feeds you.

 

[Moonglow]

If they hold the commodity cards why are they not a superpower but a second-rate Asian nation with a junk bond rating from the IMF??

 

[Sunsettommy]

If they hold the commodity cards why are they not a superpower but a second-rate Asian nation with a junk bond rating from the IMF??

Russia has long been a second rate nation who was forced to industrialize by Stalin to finally build things they needed badly but their communist ways didn't work to make them a first rate nation a nation full of natural resources they could use for exchange but finds a way to stay as a second rate nation as if they like it that way.

They were a "super power" when it was the USSR for its military power nothing more when they crashed in 1991 their super power status vanished quickly even if their Military is second most powerful their war with Ukraine is slower than they anticipated probably due to thinking like a second rate power still living like serfs.

 

[Moonglow]

what does an event in WWI have to do with today? nothing....

 

[Moonglow]

Russia has long been a second rate nation who was forced to industrialize by Stalin to finally build things they needed badly but their communist ways didn't work to make them a first rate nation a nation full of natural resources they could use for exchange but finds a way to stay as a second rate nation as if they like it that way.

They were a "super power" when it was the USSR for its military power nothing more when they crashed in 1991 their super power status vanished quickly even if their Military is second most powerful their war with Ukraine is slower than they anticipated probably due to thinking like a second rate power still living like serfs.

They have always seemed to have a problem with organization and being able to get cooperation in the geographical regions they control.

 

[DarthTrader]

If they hold the commodity cards why are they not a superpower but a second-rate Asian nation with a junk bond rating from the IMF??

It's cute that you think the IMF's rating matters.

 

[DarthTrader]

Russia has long been a second rate nation who was forced to industrialize by Stalin to finally build things they needed badly but their communist ways didn't work to make them a first rate nation a nation full of natural resources they could use for exchange but finds a way to stay as a second rate nation as if they like it that way.

They were a "super power" when it was the USSR for its military power nothing more when they crashed in 1991 their super power status vanished quickly even if their Military is second most powerful their war with Ukraine is slower than they anticipated probably due to thinking like a second rate power still living like serfs.

Tell that to a country like Turkey or Egypt who depend upon Russia's food for their internal stability. LOLOL.

 

[Moonglow]

It's cute that you think the IMF's rating matters.

it's cute you think Russia is worth a damn.

 

[Sunsettommy]

They have always seemed to have a problem with organization and being able to get cooperation in the geographical regions they control.

They have been under numerous CZAR's control for over 500 years now thus highly dependent on central authority to get anything done it could be why they are slow getting control of Ukraine just like the beating they got with the Finn's in WW2 before they prevailed after suffering massive casualties.

Russia is a super power paper tiger for many many decades lost to tiny Japan in 1905, lost to Germany in 1917 badly struggled with Finland in 1939-1940 Winter War and now very slow with Ukraine today

Eventually the nation will fragment or be taken over by another nation.

 

[Sunsettommy]

Tell that to a country like Turkey or Egypt who depend upon Russia's food for their internal stability. LOLOL.

That is the fault of Turkey and Egypt depending on a nation who have never been reliable or smart, it is up to them to change their food supply chains to better sources.

 

[Donald H]

Russia hold tremendous wealth in natural resources and China's priority is in cooperation with Russia for the development of those resources and then the sharing of both countries' wealth.

Natural resources and the development of same, made America rich and prosperous!

Can America remain rich and prosperous with over 300 million mouths to feed on a mostly depleted land mass?

There's really only one route to wealth and prosperity and America still pursues that route in the Ukraine this time.

China pursues the same, but perhaps by using a different method. The world will know soon!

 

[imawhosure]

Food as a Weapon

Herbert Hoover fed not only the citizens of Belgium but also, in the hope that they would throw off the Bolsheviks, the citizens of Soviet Russia. Bertrand M. Patenaude has another remarkable story.

www.hoover.org

I know I troll a lot but what I really wish to do is open American's eyes up to the fact that the US is losing a global war. This war isn't fought with armies, it's fought with dollars and wheat and uranium and oil and lithium and nickel....

Russia is winning, Americans need to understand this, because Russia is taking a page from the US playbook that's as old as the Irish Potato famine but was industrialized in WW1.

Russia holds so many commodity cards now, looming daggers over so many strategic countries like Egypt, Indonesia, Malaysia, South Africa, Nigeria, Brazil, Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, Turkey.

These daggers, Kinjals as they are called in Russian, are poised to strike the hearts of so many nations that need food, fertilizer, oil and other commodities to function.

The US has abdicated its ability to be a provider, a father, to the nations. This doesn't have to continue, but idiots like Democrats and Biden sure as hell don't have answers. I was skeptical of Trump's trade war against China, but in hindsight of the Evergrande debacle and the aggressive posture of China RMB as a reserve currency take over to USD, Trump was right.

Russia is proving to the world that the US cannot save it from the four horsemen.

If US wants to win this global war for hearts and minds, it better change quick, and show that it can stave off famines, plagues, and even wars. Which right now...it's lost on all three.

Right now Russia is proving that if you're an ally to the US, Russia can unleash a plague, a famine, or war upon you with impunity. And Russia is proving to the world that they maybe need to rethink who their "friends" are. The proselytizer of Democracy, or the hand that feeds you.

It all depends, and I say that honestly.

1. It is highly unlikely that any world nuclear power, is going to unleash nukes in the name of a 3rd country. Makes zero sense when you think about it. They will only use them when it is THEIR country attacked.

2. The American system, has been proven the BEST system for expansion over many decades as far as economic. If this was not factual, us starting from waaaaaaay behind as a young nation, we never would have caught, and surpassed virtually every country in the world. Therefore, if we are free, we will still outperform all other nations being controlled by BRILLIANT leaders, or those who think they are.

3. How many Americans actually believe we can just talk to these nations who are aggressive? We are one of the few exceptions to the rule on our planet. Throughout history, strongmen have always tried to impose their will on populations. Technology has improved dramatically, but human behavior has not! If America does not protect itself, nobody else will! While nobody likes this idea, it is fact.

4. We have our own problems to fix to move forward successfully. If choosing a European model was the way to go, then since they started out far in front of us, today they would be the superpower, not us. If not for former administrations selling tech to the Chinese, or turning a blind eye to their willfull theft of our technology, they would still be in the partial dark ages. That is on us, for who/whom we elect. There is no logic on us opening a new technologic lead, if all we do is sell it to them, or willfully allow them to steal what we discover through government ignorance/inaction to prevent it.

5. Everything aside, in the late 40s we could have taken out the Soviet Union any time we wanted to. We didn't! In the 50s and 60s, we could have taken out China at our own leisure if we wanted to. We didn't! In the 80's, Iran and the rest of the death to America crowd could have been rolled within a month, no sweat, just roll them, if we wanted to. Didn't do that either!

Now, if they get the advantage, how many Americans think they will afford us the same fate, to just stick around, because they are being nice while they wait for us to catch up!

Leftists could be very nice people, but their ideas STINK! We need to invigorate our country with every aspect of world goods, to insure we can not only supply ourselves, but our allies too. If their countries could do it, they would; but they can't! That is a testament to how our country works, Leftist craziness aside.

We as Americans either need to wake up, or risk waking up one day soon, only to find that what we thought was our worst nightmare.........Joe Biden..........is no longer in charge, and that instead, some guy named Chu, Woo, or Poo is now calling the shots; unless of course, we want to engage in nuclear war, and since we are between 2 oceans, what would they care if they couldn't use our land for 100 years or so. It would be isolated off their continents. They have all proven to be PRAGMATISTS, I am confident they would do it, IF they could get an advantage to survive, reasonably.

 

[DarthTrader]

It all depends, and I say that honestly.

1. It is highly unlikely that any world nuclear power, is going to unleash nukes in the name of a 3rd country. Makes zero sense when you think about it. They will only use them when it is THEIR country attacked.

2. The American system, has been proven the BEST system for expansion over many decades as far as economic. If this was not factual, us starting from waaaaaaay behind as a young nation, we never would have caught, and surpassed virtually every country in the world. Therefore, if we are free, we will still outperform all other nations being controlled by BRILLIANT leaders, or those who think they are.

3. How many Americans actually believe we can just talk to these nations who are aggressive? We are one of the few exceptions to the rule on our planet. Throughout history, strongmen have always tried to impose their will on populations. Technology has improved dramatically, but human behavior has not! If America does not protect itself, nobody else will! While nobody likes this idea, it is fact.

4. We have our own problems to fix to move forward successfully. If choosing a European model was the way to go, then since they started out far in front of us, today they would be the superpower, not us. If not for former administrations selling tech to the Chinese, or turning a blind eye to their willfull theft of our technology, they would still be in the partial dark ages. That is on us, for who/whom we elect. There is no logic on us opening a new technologic lead, if all we do is sell it to them, or willfully allow them to steal what we discover through government ignorance/inaction to prevent it.

5. Everything aside, in the late 40s we could have taken out the Soviet Union any time we wanted to. We didn't! In the 50s and 60s, we could have taken out China at our own leisure if we wanted to. We didn't! In the 80's, Iran and the rest of the death to America crowd could have been rolled within a month, no sweat, just roll them, if we wanted to. Didn't do that either!

Now, if they get the advantage, how many Americans think they will afford us the same fate, to just stick around, because they are being nice while they wait for us to catch up!

Leftists could be very nice people, but their ideas STINK! We need to invigorate our country with every aspect of world goods, to insure we can not only supply ourselves, but our allies too. If their countries could do it, they would; but they can't! That is a testament to how our country works, Leftist craziness aside.

We as Americans either need to wake up, or risk waking up one day soon, only to find that what we thought was our worst nightmare.........Joe Biden..........is no longer in charge, and that instead, some guy named Chu, Woo, or Poo is now calling the shots; unless of course, we want to engage in nuclear war, and since we are between 2 oceans, what would they care if they couldn't use our land for 100 years or so. It would be isolated off their continents. They have all proven to be PRAGMATISTS, I am confident they would do it, IF they could get an advantage to survive, reasonably.

I think you confuse the best system with the international reserve currency system. UK was a super power before us, because of that currency status, and Dutch before them, and Spanish before them.

If the US loses that status, then I think many in the US will be awakened to what the word "Hubris" means.

 

[AntonToo]

I know I troll a lot but what I really wish to do is open American's eyes up to the fact that the US is losing a global war. This war isn't fought with armies, it's fought with dollars and wheat and uranium and oil and lithium and nickel....

You are only opening our eyes to how much of a Russian state tool you are.

You threads are pure comedy at your expense.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Russia has long been a second rate nation who was forced to industrialize by Stalin to finally build things they needed badly but their communist ways didn't work to make them a first rate nation a nation full of natural resources they could use for exchange but finds a way to stay as a second rate nation as if they like it that way.

They were a "super power" when it was the USSR for its military power nothing more when they crashed in 1991 their super power status vanished quickly even if their Military is second most powerful their war with Ukraine is slower than they anticipated probably due to thinking like a second rate power still living like serfs.

Reagan was right, and every one of these lying Liberals/Democrats was wrong:



... in his college textbook, 1985 edition, Paul Samuelson wrote this of the Soviet command and control economy: “What counts is results, and there can be no doubt that the Soviet planning system has been a powerful engine for economic growth.” The Free Market

...and....
MIT economist Lester Thurow wrote this just a few years before the Soviet Union went bankrupt: “The remarkable performance of the Soviet Union suggests that it can… Today the Soviet Union is a country whose economic achievements bear comparison with those of the United States.” http://www.currenticle.com/future-of-capitalism-book-review

....and....

"On the economic front, for the first time in its history the Soviet leadership was able to pursue successfully a policy of guns and butter as well as growth. . . . The Soviet citizen-worker, peasant, and professional—has become accustomed in the Brezhnev period to an uninterrupted upward trend in his well-being."—John Kenneth Galbraith, Professor of Economics, Harvard University, New Yorker, 1984.


But......

After 1991, we learned that in Moscow , a full half of the hospitals had no sewage, 80% had no hot water, and 17% had no running water at all, and, in actuality, the Soviet Union was a third world nation. So much for seven decades of communism.
Robert Conquest, “Reflections on a Ravaged Century,” p.106.



Yet here on the board we see the results of all the lies Democrat supporters have swallowed.

And we pay beaucoup bucks for that 'education.'

 

[imawhosure]

I think you confuse the best system with the international reserve currency system. UK was a super power before us, because of that currency status, and Dutch before them, and Spanish before them.

If the US loses that status, then I think many in the US will be awakened to what the word "Hubris" means.

I certainly do know what that means.

Why we enjoy this status today, is because we were/are the most stable country on the planet. Will we keep that status with Leftists in charge? I doubt it!

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Russia hold tremendous wealth in natural resources and China's priority is in cooperation with Russia for the development of those resources and then the sharing of both countries' wealth.

Natural resources and the development of same, made America rich and prosperous!

Can America remain rich and prosperous with over 300 million mouths to feed on a mostly depleted land mass?

There's really only one route to wealth and prosperity and America still pursues that route in the Ukraine this time.

China pursues the same, but perhaps by using a different method. The world will know soon!

The Big "They" Must Impale Palefaces

We are not depleted; we've only scratched the surface of our potential in food, oil, and manufacturing. The Globalists' agenda, from their Washington and Wall Street colonial headquarters, has been to create the illusion of scarcity through restrictive regulations in order to reduce Americans to Third World poverty, hopelessness, and escapism. To dominate, the One-World Order must impoverish and demoralize America, Europe, and Russia.