The Government Just Admitted An Inconvenient Truth: GOP-led budget office details how corporate-run health care's crushing workers. Medicare For All!

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A recent study by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that a single-payer system would radically improve people’s lives: Americans would be paid higher wages, work fewer hours, save on medical expenses, retire earlier, and experience better health outcomes.

Under a single-payer system, the government would insure everyone, but doctors and hospitals would still be privately-owned. Single-payer would save the United States significant money overall — because the current system is enormously wasteful, inefficient, and designed to make investors and corporate executives wealthy.



excerpts from CBO's own words:

“Households’ health insurance premiums would be eliminated, and their out-of-pocket health care costs would decline… Administrative expenses in the health care sector would decline, freeing up productive resources for other sectors and ultimately increasing economy-wide productivity… Longevity and labor productivity would increase as people’s health outcomes improved.”
“Workers would choose to work fewer hours, on average, despite higher wages because the reduction in health insurance premiums and (out-of-pocket) expenses would generate a positive wealth effect that allowed households to spend their time on activities other than paid work and maintain the same standard of living.”
“That wealth effect would boost households’ disposable income, which they could then split between increased saving and nonhealth consumption. Although hours worked per capita would decline, the effect on GDP would be offset under most policy specifications by an increase in economy-wide productivity, an increase in the size of the labor force, an increase in the average worker’s labor productivity, and a rise in the capital stock.”
“States could respond to the (ensuing) budget surplus by growing their rainy-day funds (at least temporarily), reducing state tax rates, increasing spending on government purchases or public services, or a combination of all three.”
 
A recent study by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that a single-payer system would radically improve people’s lives: Americans would be paid higher wages, work fewer hours, save on medical expenses, retire earlier, and experience better health outcomes.

Under a single-payer system, the government would insure everyone, but doctors and hospitals would still be privately-owned. Single-payer would save the United States significant money overall — because the current system is enormously wasteful, inefficient, and designed to make investors and corporate executives wealthy.



excerpts from CBO's own words:

“Households’ health insurance premiums would be eliminated, and their out-of-pocket health care costs would decline… Administrative expenses in the health care sector would decline, freeing up productive resources for other sectors and ultimately increasing economy-wide productivity… Longevity and labor productivity would increase as people’s health outcomes improved.”
“Workers would choose to work fewer hours, on average, despite higher wages because the reduction in health insurance premiums and (out-of-pocket) expenses would generate a positive wealth effect that allowed households to spend their time on activities other than paid work and maintain the same standard of living.”
“That wealth effect would boost households’ disposable income, which they could then split between increased saving and nonhealth consumption. Although hours worked per capita would decline, the effect on GDP would be offset under most policy specifications by an increase in economy-wide productivity, an increase in the size of the labor force, an increase in the average worker’s labor productivity, and a rise in the capital stock.”
“States could respond to the (ensuing) budget surplus by growing their rainy-day funds (at least temporarily), reducing state tax rates, increasing spending on government purchases or public services, or a combination of all three.”
The facts have been established by the rest of the world's modern democracies.

But I would just caution against continuing to accept private hospitals because they would almost certainly be the fly in the ointment.

Government will still need to provide the competition necessary to force costs down to that which is normal levels in the rest of the world.

The fact is, government is going to have to bring about the necessary change. Trump didn't even have a plan to offer, simply because it would be out of necessity, big business donating more than half their profits to the American people!

Can it be explained any more factually than that?
 
health care is a basic, fundamental human right, no different than food or shelter or education
Please to show me in the Constitution or even in the Bill of Rights where it says that.

You may make a economic argument but not a "Mah Rights" argument for it.

That and even with real insurance you can't hardly get in to see a doctor. I don't think the .gov would make that any better.
 
The facts have been established by the rest of the world's modern democracies.

But I would just caution against continuing to accept private hospitals because they would almost certainly be the fly in the ointment.

Government will still need to provide the competition necessary to force costs down to that which is normal levels in the rest of the world.

The fact is, government is going to have to bring about the necessary change. Trump didn't even have a plan to offer, simply because it would be out of necessity, big business donating more than half their profits to the American people!

Can it be explained any more factually than that?
So why do so many Canadians come to the States for elective procedures?
 
Here's the big slap in the face folks:

Poor little Cuba provides health care for all that is rated as roughly equal to America's, as is rated by the WHO.

Their dollar payment tourist medical system is awesome!
The one for the locals sucks third-world ass.
 
No kidding.
We can all see that the US Post Office is much more efficient than their private competitors.
I'll gamble and say that in all instances where government provided social necessities, it does so more efficiently and more cost effectively than private competition.

With one qualification to that statement: Govenment doesn't permit interference and dirty tricks to destroy social proficiency of it's business ventures.

There's simply not one example of government not being able to perform better for the people, providing that government isn't harrassed by dirty tricks by greedy capitalists who value huge profits over the wellbeing of the people.
 
So why do so many Canadians come to the States for elective procedures?
More Americans travel out of country for health care than any other country's people.

Keeping in mind also, a larger number simply go without!
 
Here's the big slap in the face folks:

Poor little Cuba provides health care for all that is rated as roughly equal to America's, as is rated by the WHO.
The WHO is an extension of the corrupt UN. Both are anti-US. I trust nothing they say.
 
A recent study by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that a single-payer system would radically improve people’s lives: Americans would be paid higher wages, work fewer hours, save on medical expenses, retire earlier, and experience better health outcomes.

Under a single-payer system, the government would insure everyone, but doctors and hospitals would still be privately-owned. Single-payer would save the United States significant money overall — because the current system is enormously wasteful, inefficient, and designed to make investors and corporate executives wealthy.



excerpts from CBO's own words:

“Households’ health insurance premiums would be eliminated, and their out-of-pocket health care costs would decline… Administrative expenses in the health care sector would decline, freeing up productive resources for other sectors and ultimately increasing economy-wide productivity… Longevity and labor productivity would increase as people’s health outcomes improved.”
“Workers would choose to work fewer hours, on average, despite higher wages because the reduction in health insurance premiums and (out-of-pocket) expenses would generate a positive wealth effect that allowed households to spend their time on activities other than paid work and maintain the same standard of living.”
“That wealth effect would boost households’ disposable income, which they could then split between increased saving and nonhealth consumption. Although hours worked per capita would decline, the effect on GDP would be offset under most policy specifications by an increase in economy-wide productivity, an increase in the size of the labor force, an increase in the average worker’s labor productivity, and a rise in the capital stock.”
“States could respond to the (ensuing) budget surplus by growing their rainy-day funds (at least temporarily), reducing state tax rates, increasing spending on government purchases or public services, or a combination of all three.”
Is there anyone out there that truly believes that the corrupt and inefficient federal government could run about 1/6th of our economy (Health Care) better than the private sector?
The federal government could not run a roadside lemonade stand without graft, corruption, malfeasance, cost overruns, and blatant nepotism.
The federal government needs to get out of the way and stay out of our lives, do you hear me Joe Biden?
 
Is there anyone out there that truly believes that the corrupt and inefficient federal government could run about 1/6th of our economy (Health Care) better than the private sector?
The federal government could not run a roadside lemonade stand without graft, corruption, malfeasance, cost overruns, and blatant nepotism.
The federal government needs to get out of the way and stay out of our lives, do you hear me Joe Biden?
Without reform to eliminate corruption in government, very little is possible. The corruption is most likely related to health care more than any other factor.

If there's one thing both political sides agree upon, it's corruption by the other party.
 
More Americans travel out of country for health care than any other country's people.

Keeping in mind also, a larger number simply go without!

Here's the big slap in the face folks:

Poor little Cuba provides health care for all that is rated as roughly equal to America's, as is rated by the WHO.
You still believe the WHO? Now that is funny.
 
Here's the big slap in the face folks:

Poor little Cuba provides health care for all that is rated as roughly equal to America's, as is rated by the WHO.




No, they don't. Other than the elite, and those who travel to cuba to pay in dollars, the average cuban is screwed. Clearly you have never been to cuba to see the miserable health care given to the serfs.
 
No, they don't. Other than the elite, and those who travel to cuba to pay in dollars, the average cuban is screwed. Clearly you have never been to cuba to see the miserable health care given to the serfs.
I've been there lots of times because Canadians are allowed to go there. (it's the freedom thing again)

Oh, and Cuba's life expectancy surpasses the US in 2020! (that health care thing again)
 

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