Russia Formally Warns US to Stop Arming Ukraine!

Well unlike you, I've seen the bunkers and they are also deep underground, usually in excess of 30 feet. So those bunkers are far more credible than YOU think.

The bunkers aren't primary targets, usually they are in cities or offshoots of subways that are targeted for airbursts. 30 feet is over kill depth.

Some are deeper than that and could survive direct hits.

The supplies, usually enough for 20 or 30 thousand people for years are still there...just fine. Not stolen yet. Getting into said bunkers usually requires some god damned spelunking through air ducts and some tooling to get through very tight spaces. You're not smuggling out equipment with that kind of tight fit.
Most of the supplies were probably stolen at the plants producing the supplies. Expecting anything else in a kleptocracy like Russia would be insane. Just like the explosive armor panels filled with egg cartons, the theft wouldn’t be discovered until the supplies were needed.
 
Clearly you never worked on a Submarine lol.

You realize that the SOSUS networks are deployed near the US, not across the world, they don't work like that.

And most Russian subs are "black holes" with the exception of the Akula which is the fastest sub in the world at 40+kts.

You're a naive twit, you probably don't even know how underwater acoustics works. You can hide with the noisiest marching band banging cymbals day and night if you're parked in the right places.
The sosus systems are located in deep water choke points, not us waters and they are so sensitive that they can track subs a thousand miles away. And Russian subs aren’t “black holes”, compared to US subs they are noisey. The only really quiet Russian subs are the diesel boats.
 
At least everybody is lining up on the understanding that America is invincible and Russia will willingly take the hit that will destroy their country!

The only difference between that and my opinions is that I don't fear the conversation.

Not only is the US not even remotely "invincible", but we may have already destroyed the US ourselves, by increasing the national debt to $47 billion, financed by China.
At some point the world will stop using the US dollar as its reserve currency, and the US will become history.
It is not like we are even a major producer of anything the rest of the world needs any more.
NVidia, FoxConn, etc., have taken it all over. The US does not even teach computer programming any more, and has switched to Python scripting, because C++ is "too hard".
 
Then YOU would be the instigator of global, and possibly nuclear war. Not Russia. Not Putin. The biggest lie the media has sold Americans in regard to the Russia/Ukraine war is “that you have to pick a side”. But the reality is “you don’t”. Europe is filled with Europeans who can intervene in a matter of one European country fighting another.
What is with this Pavlovian response America has developed, thinking we need to stick our nose in everyone else’s quarrels? Was Ukraine with us in Iraq? Syria? Afghanistan? Ever? Anywhere?
Why give a shit? And even if one is moved to give a shit… Why risk our own involvement for a corrupt country, whose only claim to fame is as a money laundering hub for the politicians we all claim to hate?
Firing on a “flagged” vessel or aircraft is an act of war. The US almost went to war with England after a Leopard attacked Chesapeake, and England almost went to war with the US over the Trent Affair when a US warship stopped a British mail packet and took two Confederate officials off her.
 
The sosus systems are located in deep water choke points, not us waters and they are so sensitive that they can track subs a thousand miles away. And Russian subs aren’t “black holes”, compared to US subs they are noisey. The only really quiet Russian subs are the diesel boats.

Do you really think SOSUS would be allowed to work in a real life situation?
It is so easy to simply use a white noise generator.

And no, diesels are inherently loud and require snorkel depth.
Nuclear subs just have the sound of escaping steam, so are all fairly quiet.
The Russians have the same simulation software we have.
 
Nice "spin" on the fact Russia has pretty much captures all the land in the east they were ever interested in, and that the Ukraine no longer has any ocean access.
They havent taken Odessa yet. But I knew Mr. KGB Putin was after land. Especially beach front land.
 
Firing on a “flagged” vessel or aircraft is an act of war. The US almost went to war with England after a Leopard attacked Chesapeake, and England almost went to war with the US over the Trent Affair when a US warship stopped a British mail packet and took two Confederate officials off her.

Delivering weapons to a belligerent like the Ukraine is also an act of war.
There is no question the Ukraine is guilty, since it has already been found guilty of stealing oil and admits its treaty violations by openly asking to join NATO.
So then the US has already committed acts of war and essentially is guilty of murder for US weapons being used to kill Russians.
It is illegal to supply weapons to someone in violation of treaty and international law.
The US is a criminal now.
It just remains to be seen if Russia is willing to enforce its legal rights?
 
They havent taken Odessa yet. But I knew Mr. KGB Putin was after land. Especially beach front land.

The Russians do not have to take Odessa, just close it to the Ukraine.
Putin was never "after land".
Russia has far more land than they could ever find any use for.
But they can't allow the Ukraine to keep violating international law and treaties.
So they will have to destroy the Ukraine if that is the only way to change Kyiv.
Without coastal access, how long do you think the Ukraine can hold out?
 
The US arming the Ukraine is illegal.
The Ukraine trying to join NATO is illegal.
It was the Ukraine who started this war deliberately.
The US paid Zelensky to deliberately start this war.
Russia is completely innocent and has had no choice at all.
I think we can expect to see a US ship sunk soon.
As usual, everything you have said is wrong.
 
LMAO...........They want POWER and to replace them........then you will go BOW TO THEM afterwards..........They aren't the good guys.........Evil is all over the world.....Putin isn't doing this because he's a NICE GUY........And he went after strategic Black Sea port areas..............

He is pushing the envelope with NATO........and another thing.......WHO IS HE TO TELL NATO......I HEREBY DECREE THAT NATO CAN KEEP NO TROOPS in places like POLAND....

Poland and the Baltic States are members of NATO.......He DOESN'T DICTATE WHO CAN BE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY...............HE CAN GO FUCK HIMSELF OVER THAT...

If he doesn't like that.........then do something about it..........and we will show HOW INEPT HIS MILITARY IS..........They suck......paper tigers.

Wrong.
The Russians have always been the good guy and the US the bad guy.
Russia got nothing out of defending China, Korea, Vietnam, Cuba, Syria, Egypt, Iran, etc.
The US constantly is trying to install evil dictators all over the world, like Shang Kai Shek in China, Syngman Rhee in Korea, Diem in Vietnam, Sisi in Egypt, the Shah in Iran, Samosa in Nicaragua, Pinochet in Chile, Chalabi in Iraq, Batista in Cuba, etc.
The US has deliberately murdered tens of millions of innocent civilians and enslaved many times more.
In all of history, there has never been any country nearly as evil as the US.
 
How about Russia LEAVE THEN..............HUH........

That is silly.
You know full well that Russia can't allow the Ukraine to keep stealing oil, violating treaties, trying to put NATO nukes on Russia's border, etc.
Russia has no choice at all in this.
It is the US and Kyiv who deliberately cause this and can end it any time.
 
As usual, everything you have said is wrong.

Care to actually try to say something specific?
For example, since the Ukraine lost in the world court in 2012 and was told to pay for the stolen oil, then how is the Ukraine not guilty of acts of war?
And when the US then deliberately arms someone who is guilty of acts of war, how is that also then not an act of war?
 
He insists on bringing his religious nonsense into other conversations in which it doesn't belong. I'm reacting to that in the interest of trying to stop it. And now you're off my radar for the same kind of off topic spamming.
Who cares
 
The Russians do not have to take Odessa, just close it to the Ukraine.
Putin was never "after land".
Russia has far more land than they could ever find any use for.
But they can't allow the Ukraine to keep violating international law and treaties.
So they will have to destroy the Ukraine if that is the only way to change Kyiv.
Without coastal access, how long do you think the Ukraine can hold out?
BS He wants all Black Sea territory. He is hitting Odessa now.
 
Wrong.
All Russia wants is to be left alone.
The NEVER attacked anyone offensively, with the intent of colonial imperialism like the US does constantly.
The Warsaw Pact was purely for defense, not to make a profit like the US trying to take over Vietnam, Korea, Panama, Nicaragua, Grenada, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, etc.
You just can’t get anything right. Look back at the ORBATT of the Warsaw Pact military, It was structured as an offensive force. Lots of armor, bridging units, motorized artillery, mine clearing equipment, mobile anti-air units and mobile missile and rocket launchers. NATO, on the other hand was structured as an defensive force, mine placing equipment, fixed anti-air units, Engineering troops to emplace obstacles and blow bridges, local troops to defend their towns etc. if you want to know a country’s plans, look at the capabilities of its military units.
 
That is ridiculous.
If Russia wanted the Ukraine, then Russia would not have given them their independence in 1992,
The war is the fault of Zelensky and the US, for trying to illegally get the Ukraine into NATOI.
Russia couldn’t afford to keep the various republics under its iron heel. That’s why it was FORCED to allow them to be independent. Just like the British Empire collapsed after WWII because the UK couldn’t afford to control it.
 
They Ukraine was granted independence in 1992 with the stipulation of NEVER trying to join NATO.
That is not too much to ask.
So it is the Ukraine that is in violation, not Russia.
And the US knew that, and did it deliberately anyway.
The criminal is the US, who paid Zelensky to sell out his country.
Yep, then Russia invaded Ukraine, conquered and annexed Crimea, invaded Georgia , conquered and annexed Ossetia and now has invaded Ukraine again, failed in its attempt to conquer and annex the entire country and is now failing in its effort to annex Donbas. That’s what all the old Soviet republics as well as Finland and Sweden want to join NATO. It’s because Russia can’t be trusted not to conquer them.
 
We flip Putin the bird. When you let a bully have his way, he doesn't stop. Chamberlin cowered before Hitler when he he could have avoided ww2. Appeasement always leads to more war later.
You have to be fair to Chamberlain, the UK was far from ready to fight a war in 1938. He was buying time by appeasing a Hitler.
 
Not only is the US not even remotely "invincible", but we may have already destroyed the US ourselves, by increasing the national debt to $47 billion, financed by China.
At some point the world will stop using the US dollar as its reserve currency, and the US will become history.
It is not like we are even a major producer of anything the rest of the world needs any more.
NVidia, FoxConn, etc., have taken it all over. The US does not even teach computer programming any more, and has switched to Python scripting, because C++ is "too hard".
There's no "we".

You're an obvious Russian sock puppet
 

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