Rudy to Begin Revealing Top Level Democrats Making Millions of Dollars Selling Their Public Office

[Indeependent]

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Hate and character assassinations are the grist of fools and trumpsters.

Look in the mirror.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

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Hate and character assassinations are the grist of fools and trumpsters.

Right, because that's never been the strategy of the Democrat party.

 

[Rye Catcher]

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Hate and character assassinations are the grist of fools and trumpsters.

Right, because that's never been the strategy of the Democrat party.

There has never been a character as evil as Donald Trump to have been POTUS!

"Since World War II, moral, political, and legal philosophers have become increasingly interested in the concept of evil. This interest has been partly motivated by ascriptions of ‘evil’ by laymen, social scientists, journalists, and politicians as they try to understand and respond to various atrocities and horrors, such as genocides, terrorist attacks, mass murders, and tortures and killing sprees by psychopathic serial killers. It seems that we cannot capture the moral significance of these actions and their perpetrators by calling them ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’ or even ‘very very wrong’ or ‘very very bad.’ We need the concept of evil...moral evils do result from the intentions or negligence of moral agents. Murder and lying are examples of moral evils.

The Concept of Evil (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

 

[Seawytch]

WHERE are the evidence that Biden is corrupt? WHERE?

Do you want me to prove to you that Trump is proven corrupt?

Ok, lets go slow so you can understand

Joe Biden is put in charge of US/Ukrainian relations by obozo the great

his son Hunter is then given a job on the board of a Ukrainian gas company paying him 83K per month

Hunter has no experience with gas, energy, or the Ukraine, he does not speak Ukrainian

Ukraine assigns a prosecutor to investigate corruption in the gas company (Burisma)

there is 1 billion of US aid to Ukraine pending

Joe Biden tells the Ukrainian government that they must fire the prosecutor or they won't get the aid

the prosecutor is fired, the aid flows and Hunter continues to be paid 83K per month for doing nothing but having the last name Biden

Other than influence buying and corruption, how do you explain any of that?

You wouldn't know facts if they crawled up your ass and shot out your nose.

Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
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nothing in your cite refutes the FACT that Hunter was given the 83K/month board job because Joe was VP and was assigned to Ukrainian relations.

Why the furk do you think they put him on the board? It was influence buying plain and simple, and then daddy Joe got the prosecutor fired in exchange for the release of a billion in foreign aid to Ukraine, he bragged about it on national TV. Everyone has seen the clip "if you want the money you must fire the guy, and son of a bitch, he was fired"

geez, woman. are you really as dumb as you seem?

So? There's nothing illegal about that now is there? Do you really want to start in on politician's children getting positions above their paygrade? Really?

sure, lets do it, starting with Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, the kids of Pelosi and Romney. Sure, bring it. Trump's kids are actually working in his or their businesses, not some fake board job or made up government position.

How about let's start with Rudy's son...

What Does Rudy Giuliani’s Son Do?

 

[Seawytch]

Joe worked with other world leaders. He was open with what he was doing and why. He did not ask for personal favors.

Biden did not lock away the conversation, he did not demand secrecy. It did not take a whistleblower to reveal what was going on

Talk about secrecy, why didn't Schiff Face bring forth the testimony from the 18th witness? Why did he hide that testimony, or not bring him to the open House inquiry for Republicans to question?

According to Shokin, on video, he stated that Joe got him fired because he was looking into Burisma and Hunter. If that's the case, then Joe did get him fired for personal reasons, which was to protect his son.

That was up to the Defense team to call their witnesses friend and hostile, to the trial, for them to Question, but the FIX WAS IN, and The DEFENSE wanted no witnesses so the Rs voted to allow no witnesses and no additional new documents pertaining to the FAUX trial.

Republicans wanted and were denied witnesses during the investigative phase. You know, the part where you are supposed to gather ALL THE EVIDENCE before submitting it to the jury. Guess who blocked that?

The fix indeed.

Y'all deserve the results you got from this SHAM PROCESS

Nope, a lie by Trump team.... they were denied unrelated to the charges, witnesses but NOT witnesses to the accusations as defense.... there are at least 10 first hand witnesses that Trump could have called in his defense like, Mulveyny, Pompeo, Bolton, Duffy, Perry, Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman, Pence etc etc etc.....

The Trump Defence team CHOSE not to call them in the House Inquiry... they were not denied....they were afraid to call ANY first hand witnesses, so they PLAYED the only hand left to play, the " house was unfair" card..... And y'all ate it up, as they knew you would.....

more BS, the dems held closed hearings in a basement secure room with no GOP allowed. The republicans did not have access to those witnesses or their depositions. it was a total kangaroo court in the house and then the crooked dems demanded fairness in the senate--------------total horseshit.

You seriously need to get a better source for your news than Donald Trump. He isn't telling you the truth about ANYTHING.

12 Republicans who stormed closed-door impeachment proceedings already had permission to attend

 

[Seawytch]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

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Hate and character assassinations are the grist of fools and trumpsters.

Right, because that's never been the strategy of the Democrat party.

There has never been a character as evil as Donald Trump to have been POTUS!

"Since World War II, moral, political, and legal philosophers have become increasingly interested in the concept of evil. This interest has been partly motivated by ascriptions of ‘evil’ by laymen, social scientists, journalists, and politicians as they try to understand and respond to various atrocities and horrors, such as genocides, terrorist attacks, mass murders, and tortures and killing sprees by psychopathic serial killers. It seems that we cannot capture the moral significance of these actions and their perpetrators by calling them ‘wrong’ or ‘bad’ or even ‘very very wrong’ or ‘very very bad.’ We need the concept of evil...moral evils do result from the intentions or negligence of moral agents. Murder and lying are examples of moral evils.

The Concept of Evil (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

Really? Let me give you some examples of lying then: I don't know who the whistleblower is. If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. I will not increase taxes on anybody making less than 250K a year; no taxes of any kind. Impeachment should always be bipartisan.

Now that you've educated us on how lying is a moral evil, can you please name us one politician that never lied?

 

[Redfish]

Ok, lets go slow so you can understand

Joe Biden is put in charge of US/Ukrainian relations by obozo the great

his son Hunter is then given a job on the board of a Ukrainian gas company paying him 83K per month

Hunter has no experience with gas, energy, or the Ukraine, he does not speak Ukrainian

Ukraine assigns a prosecutor to investigate corruption in the gas company (Burisma)

there is 1 billion of US aid to Ukraine pending

Joe Biden tells the Ukrainian government that they must fire the prosecutor or they won't get the aid

the prosecutor is fired, the aid flows and Hunter continues to be paid 83K per month for doing nothing but having the last name Biden

Other than influence buying and corruption, how do you explain any of that?

You wouldn't know facts if they crawled up your ass and shot out your nose.

Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
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nothing in your cite refutes the FACT that Hunter was given the 83K/month board job because Joe was VP and was assigned to Ukrainian relations.

Why the furk do you think they put him on the board? It was influence buying plain and simple, and then daddy Joe got the prosecutor fired in exchange for the release of a billion in foreign aid to Ukraine, he bragged about it on national TV. Everyone has seen the clip "if you want the money you must fire the guy, and son of a bitch, he was fired"

geez, woman. are you really as dumb as you seem?

So? There's nothing illegal about that now is there? Do you really want to start in on politician's children getting positions above their paygrade? Really?

sure, lets do it, starting with Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, the kids of Pelosi and Romney. Sure, bring it. Trump's kids are actually working in his or their businesses, not some fake board job or made up government position.

How about let's start with Rudy's son...

What Does Rudy Giuliani’s Son Do?

Ok, so what. He works in the white house and is paid 90K per year.

Shall we now talk about Chelsea and her 600K per year "JOB" running the clinton foundation's money laundering operation?

 

[Redfish]

Talk about secrecy, why didn't Schiff Face bring forth the testimony from the 18th witness? Why did he hide that testimony, or not bring him to the open House inquiry for Republicans to question?

According to Shokin, on video, he stated that Joe got him fired because he was looking into Burisma and Hunter. If that's the case, then Joe did get him fired for personal reasons, which was to protect his son.

That was up to the Defense team to call their witnesses friend and hostile, to the trial, for them to Question, but the FIX WAS IN, and The DEFENSE wanted no witnesses so the Rs voted to allow no witnesses and no additional new documents pertaining to the FAUX trial.

Republicans wanted and were denied witnesses during the investigative phase. You know, the part where you are supposed to gather ALL THE EVIDENCE before submitting it to the jury. Guess who blocked that?

The fix indeed.

Y'all deserve the results you got from this SHAM PROCESS

Nope, a lie by Trump team.... they were denied unrelated to the charges, witnesses but NOT witnesses to the accusations as defense.... there are at least 10 first hand witnesses that Trump could have called in his defense like, Mulveyny, Pompeo, Bolton, Duffy, Perry, Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman, Pence etc etc etc.....

The Trump Defence team CHOSE not to call them in the House Inquiry... they were not denied....they were afraid to call ANY first hand witnesses, so they PLAYED the only hand left to play, the " house was unfair" card..... And y'all ate it up, as they knew you would.....

more BS, the dems held closed hearings in a basement secure room with no GOP allowed. The republicans did not have access to those witnesses or their depositions. it was a total kangaroo court in the house and then the crooked dems demanded fairness in the senate--------------total horseshit.

You seriously need to get a better source for your news than Donald Trump. He isn't telling you the truth about ANYTHING.

12 Republicans who stormed closed-door impeachment proceedings already had permission to attend

nice story, but its not true

 

[Redfish]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

and what exactly did the Ukrainian gas company expect in return for their 83K per year? It was an attempt to buy influence in the obama white house through Biden. That is corruption, and Uncle Joe and Barry instigated it.

 

[Seawytch]

You wouldn't know facts if they crawled up your ass and shot out your nose.

Debunking 4 Viral Rumors About the Bidens and Ukraine

At the time of his board appointment, the younger Mr. Biden had just been discharged from the Navy Reserve for drug use. He had no apparent experience in Ukraine or natural gas. And while accepting the board position was legal, it reportedly raised some eyebrows in the Obama administration. The Burisma board position was lucrative: Mr. Biden received payments that reached up to $50,000 per month.

A year later, Viktor Shokin became Ukraine’s prosecutor general, a job similar to the attorney general in the United States. He vowed to keep investigating Burisma amid an international push to root out corruption in Ukraine.

But the investigation went dormant under Mr. Shokin. In the fall of 2015, Joe Biden joined the chorus of Western officials calling for Mr. Shokin’s ouster. The next March, Mr. Shokin was fired. A subsequent prosecutor cleared Mr. Zlochevsky.
​

nothing in your cite refutes the FACT that Hunter was given the 83K/month board job because Joe was VP and was assigned to Ukrainian relations.

Why the furk do you think they put him on the board? It was influence buying plain and simple, and then daddy Joe got the prosecutor fired in exchange for the release of a billion in foreign aid to Ukraine, he bragged about it on national TV. Everyone has seen the clip "if you want the money you must fire the guy, and son of a bitch, he was fired"

geez, woman. are you really as dumb as you seem?

So? There's nothing illegal about that now is there? Do you really want to start in on politician's children getting positions above their paygrade? Really?

sure, lets do it, starting with Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, the kids of Pelosi and Romney. Sure, bring it. Trump's kids are actually working in his or their businesses, not some fake board job or made up government position.

How about let's start with Rudy's son...

What Does Rudy Giuliani’s Son Do?

Ok, so what. He works in the white house and is paid 90K per year.

Shall we now talk about Chelsea and her 600K per year "JOB" running the clinton foundation's money laundering operation?

Jesus you're fucking retarded. It's the CLINTON FOUNDATION. Her name is Chelsea fucking Clinton. It's like Ivanka, Don Jr and the other spawns of the oompa loompa Oligarch working for the Trump organization. But they also have places in Trump's administration and you aren't at all concerned about that are you? If that had been Chelsea in a Hillary Clinton administration, your head would explode.

 

[lennypartiv]

Go Rudy go! They should let Rudy give a speech at the RNC convention so he can get a rousing standing ovation.

 

[Seawytch]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

and what exactly did the Ukrainian gas company expect in return for their 83K per year? It was an attempt to buy influence in the obama white house through Biden. That is corruption, and Uncle Joe and Barry instigated it.

I just told you, moron. Name recognition. They could say they have a Biden on their board. And? Seriously, with Trump in office, this really is not a rock you want to turn over...but don't let me stop you.

 

[Redfish]

nothing in your cite refutes the FACT that Hunter was given the 83K/month board job because Joe was VP and was assigned to Ukrainian relations.

Why the furk do you think they put him on the board? It was influence buying plain and simple, and then daddy Joe got the prosecutor fired in exchange for the release of a billion in foreign aid to Ukraine, he bragged about it on national TV. Everyone has seen the clip "if you want the money you must fire the guy, and son of a bitch, he was fired"

geez, woman. are you really as dumb as you seem?

So? There's nothing illegal about that now is there? Do you really want to start in on politician's children getting positions above their paygrade? Really?

sure, lets do it, starting with Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, the kids of Pelosi and Romney. Sure, bring it. Trump's kids are actually working in his or their businesses, not some fake board job or made up government position.

How about let's start with Rudy's son...

What Does Rudy Giuliani’s Son Do?

Ok, so what. He works in the white house and is paid 90K per year.

Shall we now talk about Chelsea and her 600K per year "JOB" running the clinton foundation's money laundering operation?

Jesus you're fucking retarded. It's the CLINTON FOUNDATION. Her name is Chelsea fucking Clinton. It's like Ivanka, Don Jr and the other spawns of the oompa loompa Oligarch working for the Trump organization. But they also have places in Trump's administration and you aren't at all concerned about that are you? If that had been Chelsea in a Hillary Clinton administration, your head would explode.

The clinton foundation: where 90% of the money collected went to "salaries and expenses" Are you really that naive?

If you can demonstrate that Ivanka is not earning her money, bring it. She and her husband are the only Trump kids working in the white house. They are receiving GS salaries like all government employees. Probably less than 100K per year. So once again, Hunter at 83K PER MONTH, and you think that was not a bribe?

 

[Seawytch]

That was up to the Defense team to call their witnesses friend and hostile, to the trial, for them to Question, but the FIX WAS IN, and The DEFENSE wanted no witnesses so the Rs voted to allow no witnesses and no additional new documents pertaining to the FAUX trial.

Republicans wanted and were denied witnesses during the investigative phase. You know, the part where you are supposed to gather ALL THE EVIDENCE before submitting it to the jury. Guess who blocked that?

The fix indeed.

Y'all deserve the results you got from this SHAM PROCESS

Nope, a lie by Trump team.... they were denied unrelated to the charges, witnesses but NOT witnesses to the accusations as defense.... there are at least 10 first hand witnesses that Trump could have called in his defense like, Mulveyny, Pompeo, Bolton, Duffy, Perry, Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman, Pence etc etc etc.....

The Trump Defence team CHOSE not to call them in the House Inquiry... they were not denied....they were afraid to call ANY first hand witnesses, so they PLAYED the only hand left to play, the " house was unfair" card..... And y'all ate it up, as they knew you would.....

more BS, the dems held closed hearings in a basement secure room with no GOP allowed. The republicans did not have access to those witnesses or their depositions. it was a total kangaroo court in the house and then the crooked dems demanded fairness in the senate--------------total horseshit.

You seriously need to get a better source for your news than Donald Trump. He isn't telling you the truth about ANYTHING.

12 Republicans who stormed closed-door impeachment proceedings already had permission to attend

nice story, but its not true

So provide facts that counter it. It is 100% true. There were Republicans on the committees that had full access to the same testimonies that Democrats did. You're just a complete idiot that swallows the lies Trump spews down your throat.

 

[Redfish]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

and what exactly did the Ukrainian gas company expect in return for their 83K per year? It was an attempt to buy influence in the obama white house through Biden. That is corruption, and Uncle Joe and Barry instigated it.

I just told you, moron. Name recognition. They could say they have a Biden on their board. And? Seriously, with Trump in office, this really is not a rock you want to turn over...but don't let me stop you.

"name recognition" ? another name for influence buying i.e bribery. Geez woman, open your eyes.

 

[Redfish]

Republicans wanted and were denied witnesses during the investigative phase. You know, the part where you are supposed to gather ALL THE EVIDENCE before submitting it to the jury. Guess who blocked that?

The fix indeed.

Y'all deserve the results you got from this SHAM PROCESS

Nope, a lie by Trump team.... they were denied unrelated to the charges, witnesses but NOT witnesses to the accusations as defense.... there are at least 10 first hand witnesses that Trump could have called in his defense like, Mulveyny, Pompeo, Bolton, Duffy, Perry, Giuliani, Parnas, Fruman, Pence etc etc etc.....

The Trump Defence team CHOSE not to call them in the House Inquiry... they were not denied....they were afraid to call ANY first hand witnesses, so they PLAYED the only hand left to play, the " house was unfair" card..... And y'all ate it up, as they knew you would.....

more BS, the dems held closed hearings in a basement secure room with no GOP allowed. The republicans did not have access to those witnesses or their depositions. it was a total kangaroo court in the house and then the crooked dems demanded fairness in the senate--------------total horseshit.

You seriously need to get a better source for your news than Donald Trump. He isn't telling you the truth about ANYTHING.

12 Republicans who stormed closed-door impeachment proceedings already had permission to attend

nice story, but its not true

So provide facts that counter it. It is 100% true. There were Republicans on the committees that had full access to the same testimonies that Democrats did. You're just a complete idiot that swallows the lies Trump spews down your throat.

To this day those depositions have not been released. Do some research before opening your trap.

 

[Redfish]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

and what exactly did the Ukrainian gas company expect in return for their 83K per year? It was an attempt to buy influence in the obama white house through Biden. That is corruption, and Uncle Joe and Barry instigated it.

I just told you, moron. Name recognition. They could say they have a Biden on their board. And? Seriously, with Trump in office, this really is not a rock you want to turn over...but don't let me stop you.

tell us which Trump kids are on foreign boards at ridiculous salaries.

 

[Seawytch]

So? There's nothing illegal about that now is there? Do you really want to start in on politician's children getting positions above their paygrade? Really?

sure, lets do it, starting with Chelsea Clinton, Hunter Biden, the kids of Pelosi and Romney. Sure, bring it. Trump's kids are actually working in his or their businesses, not some fake board job or made up government position.

How about let's start with Rudy's son...

What Does Rudy Giuliani’s Son Do?

Ok, so what. He works in the white house and is paid 90K per year.

Shall we now talk about Chelsea and her 600K per year "JOB" running the clinton foundation's money laundering operation?

Jesus you're fucking retarded. It's the CLINTON FOUNDATION. Her name is Chelsea fucking Clinton. It's like Ivanka, Don Jr and the other spawns of the oompa loompa Oligarch working for the Trump organization. But they also have places in Trump's administration and you aren't at all concerned about that are you? If that had been Chelsea in a Hillary Clinton administration, your head would explode.

The clinton foundation: where 90% of the money collected went to "salaries and expenses" Are you really that naive?

If you can demonstrate that Ivanka is not earning her money, bring it. She and her husband are the only Trump kids working in the white house. They are receiving GS salaries like all government employees. Probably less than 100K per year. So once again, Hunter at 83K PER MONTH, and you think that was not a bribe?

The Clinton Foundation that earns an A rating from people who rate charities. Now let's take a look at the Trump Foundation...oh, we can't because they're gone. They got closed down due to FRAUD...Judge Says Trump Must Pay $2 Million Over Misuse Of Foundation Funds

"The Trump Foundation has shut down, funds that were illegally misused are being restored, the president will be subject to ongoing supervision by my office, and the Trump children had to undergo compulsory training to ensure this type of illegal activity never takes place again," New York Attorney General Letitia James, whose office filed the case, said in a statement. "The court's decision, together with the settlements we negotiated, are a major victory in our efforts to protect charitable assets and hold accountable those who would abuse charities for personal gain."
​

So...Clinton Foundation still in operation helping people all over the world...Trump foundation is closed down because the Trump's only used it to help themselves. Yup, keep turning over those rocks.

 

[Seawytch]

Simple question for any/all of our left wingers:

Why was Hunter Biden put on the board of Burisma at a salary of 83K per month?

Because his last name was Biden. It wasn't illegal. Questionable ethically, but perfectly legal. Do you really want to start getting into an ethical discussion when Trump is president?

and what exactly did the Ukrainian gas company expect in return for their 83K per year? It was an attempt to buy influence in the obama white house through Biden. That is corruption, and Uncle Joe and Barry instigated it.

I just told you, moron. Name recognition. They could say they have a Biden on their board. And? Seriously, with Trump in office, this really is not a rock you want to turn over...but don't let me stop you.

tell us which Trump kids are on foreign boards at ridiculous salaries.

Keep turning over those rocks...they are much like the ones in your thick skull...

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