Roosevelt: The Poorest of Students.

[PoliticalChic]

Back....in the face of popular demand: more revelations about the 'Godfather of Leftism," Franklin Roosevelt.
Just the other day a Leftist said it was good to see I hadn't provided another chapter about FDR....so, here we go!



The most frequent, most rapid, most knee-jerk response from the Left about any candidate of the Republican candidates....and Republicans: "he's so stoooopid!!!"


"Trump and the cult of stupid" http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/presidential-campaign/288298-trump-and-the-cult-of-stupid

"How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches ..." How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches make him out to be? - Quora

"How the 'Stupid Party' Created Donald Trump - The New York Times" http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/opinion/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.html?_r=0
The irony, of course, is that the icon, the demigod, of the Democrat/Liberal perspective is Franklin Delano Roosevelt...who truly was, and provably so.....far less than an intellectual genius.




Let's light this candle:
"Roosevelt: The Poorest of Students"
Certainly not poor in the pecuniary sense, he was wealthy....just not capable of learning...poor in that ability.
And I'll prove it.
Let's start here:

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the 'American' philosopher George Santayana....
...could he have had Franklin Roosevelt in mind when he penned that foreboding?


1. In these posts, I have reminded all that Republican Harding came into office facing similar economic problems to Roosevelt's:

"...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book "Out of Work", noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.

With Harding’s tax cuts, spending cuts and relatively non-interventionist economic policy, the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway!"
America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell
America’s Greatest Depression Fighter by Jim Powell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell



2. Even more significant....Roosevelt knew of Harding's success during a comparable downturn...and promised to solve the economic turmoil by doing exactly what Harding did.

But he didn't do it. He did the very opposite. Duhhhhhh.....

a. " The federal government’s responses to the resulting recession took a bad situation and made it far, far worse.... Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped. He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.” He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem. As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade..... Roosevelt had pledged in 1932 to end the crisis, but it persisted two presidential terms and countless interventions later." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed


'As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade.....'
Really stupid, huh?





3. So....an abject failure at dealing with the economy.....very much as the current Democrat is.

Now, for foreign policy.....let's compare Franklin Roosevelt's ability to deal with the murderous dictatorship, the Soviet Union.....compared with an earlier President, that very same Republican, Harding, whose lessons in foreign policy, he could and should have learned as well.
But he didn't.


Roosevelt was just not capable of learning.

Proof...? Coming right up.

Right Wing Nut Jobs- still pissed off that the progressive FDR led the United States out of the Great Depression, to victory in World War 2- and brought Social Security, the GI Bill and Bank Depositors insurance to Americans.

PC is still pissed off that the United States didn't lose World War 2- just so he could call FDR a failure.

Soooo....your slanderous attempt is simply a way to hide the fact that everything in my posts is accurate, true and correct?


OK...You've served your purpose...now, back under your rock.

 

[Camp]

Back....in the face of popular demand: more revelations about the 'Godfather of Leftism," Franklin Roosevelt.
Just the other day a Leftist said it was good to see I hadn't provided another chapter about FDR....so, here we go!



The most frequent, most rapid, most knee-jerk response from the Left about any candidate of the Republican candidates....and Republicans: "he's so stoooopid!!!"


"Trump and the cult of stupid" Trump and the cult of stupid

"How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches ..." How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches make him out to be? - Quora

"How the 'Stupid Party' Created Donald Trump - The New York Times" http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/opinion/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.html?_r=0
The irony, of course, is that the icon, the demigod, of the Democrat/Liberal perspective is Franklin Delano Roosevelt...who truly was, and provably so.....far less than an intellectual genius.




Let's light this candle:
"Roosevelt: The Poorest of Students"
Certainly not poor in the pecuniary sense, he was wealthy....just not capable of learning...poor in that ability.
And I'll prove it.
Let's start here:

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the 'American' philosopher George Santayana....
...could he have had Franklin Roosevelt in mind when he penned that foreboding?


1. In these posts, I have reminded all that Republican Harding came into office facing similar economic problems to Roosevelt's:

"...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book "Out of Work", noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.

With Harding’s tax cuts, spending cuts and relatively non-interventionist economic policy, the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway!"
America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell
America’s Greatest Depression Fighter by Jim Powell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell



2. Even more significant....Roosevelt knew of Harding's success during a comparable downturn...and promised to solve the economic turmoil by doing exactly what Harding did.

But he didn't do it. He did the very opposite. Duhhhhhh.....

a. " The federal government’s responses to the resulting recession took a bad situation and made it far, far worse.... Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped. He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.” He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem. As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade..... Roosevelt had pledged in 1932 to end the crisis, but it persisted two presidential terms and countless interventions later." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed


'As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade.....'
Really stupid, huh?





3. So....an abject failure at dealing with the economy.....very much as the current Democrat is.

Now, for foreign policy.....let's compare Franklin Roosevelt's ability to deal with the murderous dictatorship, the Soviet Union.....compared with an earlier President, that very same Republican, Harding, whose lessons in foreign policy, he could and should have learned as well.
But he didn't.


Roosevelt was just not capable of learning.

Proof...? Coming right up.

Right Wing Nut Jobs- still pissed off that the progressive FDR led the United States out of the Great Depression, to victory in World War 2- and brought Social Security, the GI Bill and Bank Depositors insurance to Americans.

PC is still pissed off that the United States didn't lose World War 2- just so he could call FDR a failure.

When Bill Clinton became President there was an effort by the right to discredit the New Deal and FDR. The Reagan had begun an effort of unraveling those concepts and philosophies and there was a fear on the right that Clinton would reinstate and expand the New Deal concepts. Those concepts of greatest concern were the switch made by the New Deal of trickle up economics from trickle down economics and the idea that government stimulus was a valid and successful way of controlling the economy. The era saw a flood of anti-New Deal/anti-FDR propaganda in the form of books and right-wing media outlets. The OP is stuck in that era, even though the propaganda of that era was quickly rejected. New Deal programs and footprints are still popular today and have bipartisan support. Americans today still rate him as one of the greatest Presidents of all time, just like those who lived in his era who elected him four times.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Back....in the face of popular demand: more revelations about the 'Godfather of Leftism," Franklin Roosevelt.
Just the other day a Leftist said it was good to see I hadn't provided another chapter about FDR....so, here we go!



The most frequent, most rapid, most knee-jerk response from the Left about any candidate of the Republican candidates....and Republicans: "he's so stoooopid!!!"


"Trump and the cult of stupid" Trump and the cult of stupid

"How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches ..." How did Donald Trump get this rich, if he is as stupid as his speeches make him out to be? - Quora

"How the 'Stupid Party' Created Donald Trump - The New York Times" http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/01/opinion/how-the-stupid-party-created-donald-trump.html?_r=0
The irony, of course, is that the icon, the demigod, of the Democrat/Liberal perspective is Franklin Delano Roosevelt...who truly was, and provably so.....far less than an intellectual genius.




Let's light this candle:
"Roosevelt: The Poorest of Students"
Certainly not poor in the pecuniary sense, he was wealthy....just not capable of learning...poor in that ability.
And I'll prove it.
Let's start here:

"Those who do not remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
So saith the 'American' philosopher George Santayana....
...could he have had Franklin Roosevelt in mind when he penned that foreboding?


1. In these posts, I have reminded all that Republican Harding came into office facing similar economic problems to Roosevelt's:

"...Harding inherited the mess, in particular the post-World War I depression – almost as severe, from peak to trough, as the Great Contraction from 1929 to 1933, that FDR inherited and prolonged. Richard K. Vedder and Lowell E. Gallaway, in their book "Out of Work", noted that the magnitude of the 1920 depression "exceeded that for the Great Depression of the following decade for several quarters." The estimated gross national product plunged 24% from $91.5 billion in 1920 to $69.6 billion in 1921. The number of unemployed people jumped from 2.1 million in 1920 to 4.9 million in 1921.

With Harding’s tax cuts, spending cuts and relatively non-interventionist economic policy, the gross national product rebounded to $74.1 billion in 1922. The number of unemployed fell to 2.8 million – a reported 6.7% of the labor force – in 1922. So, just a year and a half after Harding became president, the Roaring 20s were underway!"
America’s Greatest Depression*Fighter by Jim Powell
America’s Greatest Depression Fighter by Jim Powell
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/226645/not-so-great-depression/jim-powell



2. Even more significant....Roosevelt knew of Harding's success during a comparable downturn...and promised to solve the economic turmoil by doing exactly what Harding did.

But he didn't do it. He did the very opposite. Duhhhhhh.....

a. " The federal government’s responses to the resulting recession took a bad situation and made it far, far worse.... Roosevelt did indeed make a difference, though probably not the sort of difference for which the country had hoped. He started off on the wrong foot when, in his inaugural address, he blamed the Depression on “unscrupulous money changers.” He said nothing about the role of the Fed’s mismanagement and little about the follies of Congress that had contributed to the problem. As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade..... Roosevelt had pledged in 1932 to end the crisis, but it persisted two presidential terms and countless interventions later." Great Myths of the Great Depression | Lawrence W. Reed


'As a result of his efforts, the economy would linger in depression for the rest of the decade.....'
Really stupid, huh?





3. So....an abject failure at dealing with the economy.....very much as the current Democrat is.

Now, for foreign policy.....let's compare Franklin Roosevelt's ability to deal with the murderous dictatorship, the Soviet Union.....compared with an earlier President, that very same Republican, Harding, whose lessons in foreign policy, he could and should have learned as well.
But he didn't.


Roosevelt was just not capable of learning.

Proof...? Coming right up.

Right Wing Nut Jobs- still pissed off that the progressive FDR led the United States out of the Great Depression, to victory in World War 2- and brought Social Security, the GI Bill and Bank Depositors insurance to Americans.

PC is still pissed off that the United States didn't lose World War 2- just so he could call FDR a failure.

When Bill Clinton became President there was an effort by the right to discredit the New Deal and FDR. The Reagan had begun an effort of unraveling those concepts and philosophies and there was a fear on the right that Clinton would reinstate and expand the New Deal concepts. Those concepts of greatest concern were the switch made by the New Deal of trickle up economics from trickle down economics and the idea that government stimulus was a valid and successful way of controlling the economy. The era saw a flood of anti-New Deal/anti-FDR propaganda in the form of books and right-wing media outlets. The OP is stuck in that era, even though the propaganda of that era was quickly rejected. New Deal programs and footprints are still popular today and have bipartisan support. Americans today still rate him as one of the greatest Presidents of all time, just like those who lived in his era who elected him four times.

Did you just mention the greatest President in the last 100 years, the man who de-constructed all the pro-communist efforts of Franklin Roosevelt in his facilitating of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet empire....the man who brought prosperity to the average American....the very antithesis of Franklin Roosevelt????

Did you mention Ronald Reagan???


I hope you genuflected when you did so.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Back to our tale of Franklin Roosevelt's inability to learn from his betters.


9. “History doesn't repeat itself but it often rhymes,” as Mark Twain is reputed to have said. But...it did repeat, with very different results. WWII, and the Red Army wound up with thousands of American prisoners.

a. "...the plight of hundreds, thousands of GIs - World War II officers and enlisted men, survivors of tank battles, airplane crashes, torpedoed shups, and then German prison camps- at that very moment in history looking around at watchtowers and barbed wire of the Gulag and wondering when the hell Uncle Sam would get them out.

The answer was never."
West, "American Betrayal," p. 313.




10. March 3, 1945, FDR cables Stalin to request 'urgently' for American teams to evacuate American prisoners of war 'liberated' by the Red Army

"...concerning the question of prisoners of war....on the territory of Poland and other places liberated by the Red Army, there are no groups of American prisoners of war...."
"My Dear Mr. Stalin: The Complete Correspondence of Franklin D. Roosevelt and Joseph V. Stalin," by Susan Butler, Arthur M. Schlesinger, Jr. p. 299



March 22, 1945 Stalin turned down Roosevelt's final request.......REQUEST...to return our men. Correspondence between the Chairman of the Council of Ministers of the USSR and the Presidents of the USA and the Prime Ministers of Great Britain during the Great Patriotic War of 1941 - 1945



March 26, 1945 FDR cabled Averell Harriman "It does not appear appropriate for me to send another message now to Stalin." "Special Envoy to Churchill and Stalin, 1941-1946." by William Averell Harriman, p. 422

WHAT?????

Not appropriate????

To demand the return of our American boys??????

Again: March 26, 1945 FDR cabled Averell Harriman "It does not appear appropriate for me to send another message now to Stalin."







President Harding's policy on dealing with the Bolsheviks returning American prisoners: "The sine qua non of any assistance on the part of the American aid," the 1921 agreement said, was the release of "all Americans detained in Russia." Such aid would be suspended or terminated "in case of failure on the part of the Soviet Authorities to fully comply with this primary condition."

Lend-Lease went on until 1949....years after Roosevelt's BFF, Stalin, refused to release American soldiers.




It is more than kind to simply call this lack of action by Roosevelt 'stupid.'

Criminal is the more accurate term.

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. Let's review.....what have we learned?

a. Roosevelt ignored the policies of Harding that ended a similar recession in a year and a half. He made Americans suffer under a Depression for a whole decade.


b. Roosevelt ignored the sort of pressure that Harding put on the Soviet communists, to make certain that American prisoners were turned over to the United States....and allowed thousands to disappear into Soviet gulags.


QED....Franklin Roosevelt....the poorest of students, and far, far from the 'awards for greatness' he is unfairly awarded by the Leftist press and academia.

 

[Camp]

Did you just mention the greatest President in the last 100 years, the man who de-constructed all the pro-communist efforts of Franklin Roosevelt in his facilitating of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet empire....the man who brought prosperity to the average American....the very antithesis of Franklin Roosevelt????

Did you mention Ronald Reagan???


I hope you genuflected when you did so.

Perhaps someone like you is needed to work on getting a National Memorial for Reagan installed in the nation's capitol. FDR has one between the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials and also has a Memorial in New York City on Roosevelt Island called the Four Freedoms Park. Seems like if Reagan was as great as you claim there would be no problem getting a National Memorial built for him in the nation's capitol.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did you just mention the greatest President in the last 100 years, the man who de-constructed all the pro-communist efforts of Franklin Roosevelt in his facilitating of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet empire....the man who brought prosperity to the average American....the very antithesis of Franklin Roosevelt????

Did you mention Ronald Reagan???


I hope you genuflected when you did so.

Perhaps someone like you is needed to work on getting a National Memorial for Reagan installed in the nation's capitol. FDR has one between the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials and also has a Memorial in New York City on Roosevelt Island called the Four Freedoms Park. Seems like if Reagan was as great as you claim there would be no problem getting a National Memorial built for him in the nation's capitol.

My premise was simple and focused:
a. Roosevelt ignored the policies of Harding that ended a similar recession in a year and a half. He made Americans suffer under a Depression for a whole decade.


b. Roosevelt ignored the sort of pressure that Harding put on the Soviet communists, to make certain that American prisoners were turned over to the United States....and allowed thousands to disappear into Soviet gulags.


QED....Franklin Roosevelt....the poorest of students, and far, far from the 'awards for greatness' he is unfairly awarded by the Leftist press and academia.


Clearly, FDR boot-lickers like you are unable to find any way to disagree.


Excellent.

 

[Camp]

Did you just mention the greatest President in the last 100 years, the man who de-constructed all the pro-communist efforts of Franklin Roosevelt in his facilitating of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet empire....the man who brought prosperity to the average American....the very antithesis of Franklin Roosevelt????

Did you mention Ronald Reagan???


I hope you genuflected when you did so.

Perhaps someone like you is needed to work on getting a National Memorial for Reagan installed in the nation's capitol. FDR has one between the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials and also has a Memorial in New York City on Roosevelt Island called the Four Freedoms Park. Seems like if Reagan was as great as you claim there would be no problem getting a National Memorial built for him in the nation's capitol.

My premise was simple and focused:
a. Roosevelt ignored the policies of Harding that ended a similar recession in a year and a half. He made Americans suffer under a Depression for a whole decade.

Just more misinformation from you. The similarities are invented by you. Harding did not have to content with a crashed stock market and thousands of bank closures. And how do you come up with FDR making the American public suffering for a decade? The Great Depression was four years old, having started with the stock market crash of '29 when FDR became President. FDR became President in '33 and depending on which side of the debate you choose to take, the GP was over by '39 or '40. Some claim that since the unemployment had been reduced in several years to less than 10% during the 30's the GP was not even classified as a GP, but rather a general depression without the Great designation. Furthermore, the population at the time did not believe FDR was making them suffer, especially the millions who were given good paying jobs and the communities that prospered from having employed workers in their communities. The proof is how they voted. He was beloved and elected over and over.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Did you just mention the greatest President in the last 100 years, the man who de-constructed all the pro-communist efforts of Franklin Roosevelt in his facilitating of Joseph Stalin and the Soviet empire....the man who brought prosperity to the average American....the very antithesis of Franklin Roosevelt????

Did you mention Ronald Reagan???


I hope you genuflected when you did so.

Perhaps someone like you is needed to work on getting a National Memorial for Reagan installed in the nation's capitol. FDR has one between the Lincoln and Jefferson Memorials and also has a Memorial in New York City on Roosevelt Island called the Four Freedoms Park. Seems like if Reagan was as great as you claim there would be no problem getting a National Memorial built for him in the nation's capitol.

My premise was simple and focused:
a. Roosevelt ignored the policies of Harding that ended a similar recession in a year and a half. He made Americans suffer under a Depression for a whole decade.

Just more misinformation from you. The similarities are invented by you. Harding did not have to content with a crashed stock market and thousands of bank closures. And how do you come up with FDR making the American public suffering for a decade? The Great Depression was four years old, having started with the stock market crash of '29 when FDR became President. FDR became President in '33 and depending on which side of the debate you choose to take, the GP was over by '39 or '40. Some claim that since the unemployment had been reduced in several years to less than 10% during the 30's the GP was not even classified as a GP, but rather a general depression without the Great designation. Furthermore, the population at the time did not believe FDR was making them suffer, especially the millions who were given good paying jobs and the communities that prospered from having employed workers in their communities. The proof is how they voted. He was beloved and elected over and over.

My premise was simple and focused:
a. Roosevelt ignored the policies of Harding that ended a similar recession in a year and a half. He made Americans suffer under a Depression for a whole decade.


b. Roosevelt ignored the sort of pressure that Harding put on the Soviet communists, to make certain that American prisoners were turned over to the United States....and allowed thousands to disappear into Soviet gulags.


QED....Franklin Roosevelt....the poorest of students, and far, far from the 'awards for greatness' he is unfairly awarded by the Leftist press and academia.


Clearly, FDR boot-lickers like you are unable to find any way to disagree.


Excellent.