Ron Paul vs. Herman Cain: An Analysis

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Who Is Better?

  1. Ron Paul

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  2. Herman Cain

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  1. GeoLaureate8
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    I have noticed that many people support Herman Cain, even supposed Ron Paul supporters and some have suggested that they run together. Bad idea. These candidates are nowhere near the same.

    Herman Cain exposed and why Ron Paul is better:

    Federal Reserve

    Herman Cain: Supports enslaving us through the Federal Reserve banking system by making us slaves to a valueless currency. He supposedly believes in the gold-standard and personal freedom, but these are contradictory to the existence of the Federal Reserve. Perhaps his position on this has to do with the fact that he has worked for a branch of the Federal Reserve.

    Ron Paul: Will abolish the Federal Reserve, go back to sound money, and free us from the rigged monetary system who's strings are pulled by the Fed, aka international private bankers.

    Drug War

    Herman Cain: Wants to enslave millions of Americans by supporting the Drug War. The Drug War which involves the CIA importing drugs to the U.S. and then arresting people for using them, and then benefit from the profits of the privately owned prison system of the U.S. The U.S. has the largest prison population in the world thanks to those who support the fascist, authoritarian Drug War against a free people.

    Ron Paul: Will abolish the Drug War, release all non-violent drug criminals from prison, and legalize all drugs and let states deal with regulation.

    Foreign Policy

    Herman Cain: Supports Israel, a country that bombs innocent civilians in Palestine. Herman Cain has not opposed our occupation in 120 countries nor has he opposed the wars. He has made no mention of bringing our troops home. He said that we went there to win and wants us to stay until we do, unless we have no chance. He doesn't mind the fact that thousands of our men have died in unjustified wars. Cain does not oppose us spending billions of dollars on wars and he doesn't seem to oppose the billions and billions of dollars we waste on foreign aid to other countries which don't benefit us one bit. He doesn't mind us being the policemen of the world either.

    Ron Paul
    : End all wars, withdraw all troops, and end all intervention in other countries. Opposes foreign aid. Ron Paul says "I don't think there's an authority to take money from poor people in this country and give it to rich dictators around the world. That's what foreign aid's all about. And it's also a big assistance to the military industrial complex." He opposes the U.S. policing the world.

    Marriage

    Herman Cain: Supports the government dictating people's marriage life and discriminates against gays.

    Ron Paul: Says the government should stay out of marriage and people's personal lives altogether and should let marriage be left as a religious function as it truly is. He says people can do what they want and call it what they want. There should be no law that merely defines a word. That's absurd.


    Social Security

    Herman Cain: Wants to keep government run Social Security which involves the government taking all of our SS trust fund money and spending all of it on other stuff, most likely slaughtering people in other countries, and then there will be no more funds for the people's whose money was stolen by the tax system.

    Ron Paul: Wants to privatize Social Security so that irresponsible government can't waste all of our funds without being accountable. A privatized system would ensure that people get their money, just like private car insurance is reliable and accountable.

    Taxes and IRS

    Herman Cain: Supports the "Fair Tax." More like the "unfair tax." He also doesn't appear to oppose the IRS.

    Ron Paul
    : Will go to a Flat Tax and abolish the IRS.

    Immigration

    Herman Cain: Believes in wasting money on securing the border. Takes a strong stance against illegal immigration.

    Ron Paul: This would be a non-issue if we were implementing the right economic policies in the first place. Does not support wasting money on securing the border.

    Civil Liberties

    Herman Cain
    : Claims to support liberty, but his policies say otherwise. I haven't heard him mention once that he'd restore our civil liberties. He uses the word in his rhetoric, but he never claims how he will do it. I don't see him opposing the Patriot Act or the Cybersecurity Act. By the looks of it, he supports the same ol' status quo which has resulted in the enslavement of the whole population of America.

    Ron Paul: Will repeal the Patriot Act. Eliminate Cybersecurity Act which would destroy all of our Internet freedoms and the little privacy we have left. Ron Paul's number one priority is to get our liberties back from the stranglehold of the authoritarian dictatorship we call a "democratic government."



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    Thanks for posting this. Good to see someone spelling it out concisely. My only concern is that this list also highlights the difference between Ron Paul and the bulk of the current version of the Tea Party.
     
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    I will admit though, Herman Cain is an interesting candidate and is better than all the rest (except Gary Johnson), but even despite that, he's nowhere near Paul. I guess that just goes to show that RP is leaps and bounds ahead of everybody else, even those that are considered the best.

    And the person above me is right, it does show quite the difference between RP and probably any other Tea Party candidate, though Michelle Bachman and Sarah Palin are the only two other Tea Party possible candidates, but they are unlikely to run. I believe RP and Cain are the only Tea Party candidates, the rest are clearly status quo. Of course, the Tea Partiers themselves aren't too bright either and support much of the status quo (i.e., Herman Cain's platform), but if they'll vote for RP, then I'll only encourage the Tea Party.
     
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    I find it odd that Cain doesn't have a WEBSITE to outline in greater detail his positions.

    If he's serious about throwing his hat in the ring he ought to.
     
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    Where did all the Herman Cain supporters scatter too? Can't come up with a defense for this guy?

    I understand though. It's hard to defend this guy after he's been EXPOSED like that. His platform is pretty indefensible.

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    Agree with the OP on just about everything but I'm going to nitpick on one thing, Ron Paul is big on border security and I agree with him.

    Border Security

    1.Physically secure our borders and coastlines. We must do whatever it takes to control entry into our country before we undertake complicated immigration reform proposals.
     
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    Most libritarians that oppose the federal reserve have absolutly no clue of how it works. Thats not to say that the fed is wonderful because its not. And of all things you would suspect a Ron Paul supporter to have an objective analysis. Thats the funny thing about those that support Ron Paul. Theyre all about Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness, which I admire. But you can find them in the corner of a room trying to loudly applaude their candidate as if they can give the illusion that there are more than actually exist. They also like to throw things at people they dont support as they did to Sean Hannity. For a group woul should understand the principles of peace they protest like radical anarco socialists.
     
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    You really think highly of yourself dont you? I see your trying to manipulate a debate. I'm Game.
     
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    Really? I thought he was rather soft on immigration especially given that an anti-immigration publication gave Ron Paul an "F" when it comes to preventing illegal immigration.

    But what you post is interesting, I didn't know he said that on his website.


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    I wonder if he changes his mind on immigration now. Nah, that would mean that he would be objective, reasonable, honest, and consistant. No doubt he will be dumbfounded with no admission when he sees your correction.
     

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