Zone1 Roma not officially recognised in the USA census

[Mortimer]

Biden spoke about making LGBTQ more visible by recognising them on the census, but no one says anything about Roma.

What racial category are the Roma characterised as in the United States



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In the United States, Roma people are not officially recognized as a racial or ethnic category on the U.S. Census form. However, individuals of Roma descent have the option to select "Some other race" as their racial category, which is a catch-all category for individuals who do not identify with the other listed racial categories, such as White, Black or African American, Asian, Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander, or American Indian or Alaska Native.

Why are Roma not officially recognized as a ethnic category is that a discrimination?



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The lack of official recognition of the Roma people as an ethnic category on the U.S. Census, or in other official documents, can be seen as an example of systemic discrimination and marginalization. It reflects historical and ongoing social, economic, and political exclusion of the Roma people, which has resulted in a lack of political representation, resources, and services.
Roma people have faced discrimination and persecution throughout history, including being subjected to forced assimilation policies, forced labor, and genocide during World War II. Today, Roma people still face high levels of poverty, social exclusion, and discrimination in many parts of the world, including in the United States.
The recognition of ethnic and cultural diversity is an important aspect of promoting social justice and human rights. By recognizing the Roma people as a distinct ethnic and cultural group, it may be possible to raise awareness about their unique history, culture, and contributions, and to advocate for their inclusion in society.



The UK reconizes the Roma as ethnic group is the UK less racist then the USA



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The UK recognizes the Roma people as an ethnic group, which is an important step towards acknowledging and addressing the historical and ongoing discrimination and marginalization faced by this group. The UK has also taken steps to support Roma inclusion, such as funding projects to promote education and employment opportunities for Roma people, and establishing legal protections against discrimination.
However, it is difficult to make a direct comparison between the UK and the US in terms of racism or discrimination, as both countries have different histories, cultural norms, and political systems. Both countries have experienced challenges related to racism and discrimination, including issues related to ethnic and racial inequality, police brutality, and hate crimes.
It's important to note that addressing discrimination and promoting inclusion is an ongoing process that requires ongoing efforts from all members of society, including policymakers, community leaders, and individuals. Both the UK and the US, along with other countries around the world, have work to do to address systemic discrimination and ensure equal treatment and opportunities for all people, regardless of their ethnic or racial background.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Heres one for ya Mort.

 

[Mortimer]

Heres one for ya Mort.

You make fun of me... though and try to hurt me, nothing unusual.... you discriminate me

 

[DudleySmith]

Nobody here cares. We have enough pointless holidays and 'Diversity' already.

 

[luiza]

You make fun of me... though and try to hurt me, nothing unusual.... you discriminate me

You make fun of yourself without realising and are your own worst enemy .
Get yourself a manager , cosmetologist , hairdresser and singing lessons . Get rid of the Nazi hippopotamus look .

 

[Mortimer]

You make fun of yourself without realising and are your own worst enemy .
Get yourself a manager , cosmetologist , hairdresser and singing lessons . Get rid of the Nazi hippopotamus look .

Which way of dress do you suggest? Which type of haircut? Why cosmetologist though, do you think I need make up?

 

[luiza]

Which way of dress do you suggest? Which type of haircut? Why cosmetologist though, do you think I need make up?

First decide which gender you are most attracted to -- many that go for the Nazi look turn out to be closet poufters . Possible ?
But if it is still a Testosterone preference , talk to clever and successful women to find out what looks get silly men over the first couple of hurdles .
Because the number of men who can appeal to a big slice of the partner market by just being natural are very few .
You could do worse than emulate a George Michael look and potentially have appeal for both genders .
Diet and shape will be key .
Report back before Xmas but don't fall for anyone earning less than six figures .

 

[Mortimer]

He used to say that Roma People are not white or that it is a complex debate... or debatable and that some are white and some not... he changed his mind...

Are Roma People classified as Caucasoid according to traditional Physical Anthropology?

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Traditionally, Physical Anthropology used racial classification systems to categorize humans based on physical traits such as skin color, facial features, and skull measurements. One such system, the "Caucasoid-Mongoloid-Negroid" classification, was widely used in the past.

Under this system, Roma people, also known as Romani or Gypsies, were typically classified as Caucasoid or "white" due to their European appearance. However, it's important to note that this system of racial classification is now widely considered to be outdated and inaccurate.

Today, anthropologists generally reject the concept of race as a biological category and instead recognize that human diversity is best understood as a complex interplay between genetic, environmental, and cultural factors. As a result, attempts to classify Roma people or any other group of people based on physical traits are considered to be both scientifically unsound and socially problematic.




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Did the term Western Euroasian in Gentic Science replaced the term caucasoid in traditional Physical Anthropology?
The term "Western Eurasian" is often used in genetics research to describe a group of populations that share genetic ancestry from Europe and the Middle East. This term is not an official replacement for the term "Caucasoid" in traditional physical anthropology because the two concepts refer to different things.

"Caucasoid" is a racial classification system that was used in traditional physical anthropology to categorize humans based on physical traits such as skull shape, facial features, and skin color. This classification system is no longer widely used in contemporary anthropology due to its association with scientific racism and the recognition that it is not a biologically meaningful way to classify humans.

In contrast, "Western Eurasian" is a term used in genetics research to describe the genetic ancestry of populations from Europe and the Middle East. This term is based on genetic data and is not used to categorize humans based on physical traits. It is important to note that the use of genetic data to study human populations is a rapidly evolving field, and new terminology and concepts may emerge as research progresses.




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Are Roma People classified as Western Eurasian in population genetics? Where do they cluster on a genetic world map?

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Yes, Roma people are often classified as Western Eurasian in population genetics studies, as they are believed to have originated from a population in the Indian subcontinent and subsequently migrated to Europe and other parts of the world.

Studies using genetic markers such as mitochondrial DNA and Y-chromosome haplotypes have found that Roma people are a genetically diverse population, with subgroups clustering together based on their geographic origins and migration histories.

One study published in the American Journal of Human Genetics in 2012 found that Roma populations from different regions of Europe clustered together genetically, with a clear separation from non-Roma populations. The study also found evidence of gene flow between Roma and non-Roma populations, suggesting that the Roma have intermixed with the populations among whom they have lived over the centuries.

Another study published in the journal Scientific Reports in 2018 analyzed genome-wide data from over 4,500 individuals from 30 different populations, including Roma populations from Europe and the Middle East. The study found that the Roma populations clustered together as a distinct group, separate from other European and Middle Eastern populations.

Overall, population genetics studies have shown that Roma populations have a unique genetic history and are distinct from other European and Middle Eastern populations. However, the genetic diversity within the Roma population is also considerable, and different subgroups may have distinct genetic profiles.



Are Roma People typically considered as White in the USA?

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In the United States, the racial classification of Roma people is not well-established, and there is no official designation for them. However, Roma people are generally considered to be members of the white race, as they have European ancestry and share many physical characteristics with other white populations.

It is important to note, however, that race is a socially constructed concept and that racial classifications can vary across different contexts and geographic regions. Additionally, individuals who identify as Roma may not necessarily identify as white, as racial identity is a complex and multifaceted construct that can be influenced by many factors, including cultural, social, and political experiences.




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Are Roma People officially considered under the White category in the United Kingdom?

In the United Kingdom, Roma people are not officially classified as a separate racial category. However, they are typically considered to be members of the white race due to their European ancestry and physical characteristics.

It's important to note that racial categories are socially constructed and can vary across different contexts and geographic regions. Additionally, some individuals who identify as Roma may not necessarily identify as white, as racial identity is a complex and multifaceted construct that can be influenced by many factors, including cultural, social, and political experiences.

The UK government has recognized the need to address discrimination against Roma people and has taken steps to promote their inclusion and integration into British society. In 2012, the UK government published a national strategy for Roma inclusion, which aimed to improve the educational, employment, and health outcomes for Roma communities in the country.

 

[Mortimer]

First decide which gender you are most attracted to -- many that go for the Nazi look turn out to be closet poufters . Possible ?
But if it is still a Testosterone preference , talk to clever and successful women to find out what looks get silly men over the first couple of hurdles .
Because the number of men who can appeal to a big slice of the partner market by just being natural are very few .
You could do worse than emulate a George Michael look and potentially have appeal for both genders .
Diet and shape will be key .
Report back before Xmas but don't fall for anyone earning less than six figures .

What do you think of a "street look"?

I mean College Jacket, Sneakers, Tracksuit or pants etc. Do you consider that a Nazi look? What about my look or way I dress or haircut do you consider "Nazi"? Do you consider a Army hair cut Nazi? Or a sleeveless shirt? Is that not rather "street" or "black/latino"?

Anyways, I often wear only a big wider clothes, and something which is comfortable to wear, and such. I dont think I wear typically nazi clothes, only on special occassions a suit and tie, or button down etc. But why would that be nazi?

 

[the watcher]

Davey could not be located for the census.

 

[Mortimer]

What do you think of a "street look"?

I mean College Jacket, Sneakers, Tracksuit or pants etc. Do you consider that a Nazi look? What about my look or way I dress or haircut do you consider "Nazi"? Do you consider a Army hair cut Nazi? Or a sleeveless shirt? Is that not rather "street" or "black/latino"?

Anyways, I often wear only a big wider clothes, and something which is comfortable to wear, and such. I dont think I wear typically nazi clothes, only on special occassions a suit and tie, or button down etc. But why would that be nazi?

Street look

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

You make fun of me... though and try to hurt me, nothing unusual.... you discriminate me

It's a simple fact.
Gypsies didnt get their reputation for being scoundrels for no reason.