Robbing the Poor to Pay Israel

[JMadison]

Why have proposed increases in US military aid to Israel been spared from the budgetary chopping block?

When Dubya promised Israel $30 billion in US taxpayer funded weapons between 2009 and 2018, American home values had not been plundered of $7.8 trillion worth of value.

Why should low income Americans today face even more cutbacks in social services, higher prices for food and oil, and ever scarcer job prospects in order to subsidize Israeli human rights abuses against Palestinians?

Currently, 81 members of the US House of Representatives are in Israel bowing low before their Jewish masters instead of facing Town Hall heat over plans to plunder Social Security and Medicare. One such representative is Jesse Jackson Jr whose district includes 20% of his constituents living below the poverty line and facing unemployment levels of 15%.

"According to aidtoisrael.org, constituents in Illinois’ 2nd congressional district will be asked to cough up an astonishing $53 million in federal taxes as their pound of flesh for the Israeli military during this 10-year period.

"With this same amount of money, each year the federal government instead could give 650 low-income families housing vouchers, or retrain nearly 900 unemployed workers for green jobs, or fund early reading programs for nearly 1,600 at-risk children, or provide primary health care to more than 43,000 uninsured people in Rep. Jackson’s congressional district."

Robbing Peter to Pay Israel | Common Dreams

Since social programs are a GIFT from the American taxpayer, the poor can't be ROBBED of anything.

 

[georgephillip]

Since social programs are a DIVIDEND stemming from the poor American taxpayers' cultural inheritance of society, they are being ROBBED in exactly the same way as if their land, labor or capital was being pilfered by arrogant aristocrats.

 

[JStone]

Since social programs are a DIVIDEND stemming from the poor American taxpayers' cultural inheritance of society, they are being ROBBED in exactly the same way as if their land, labor or capital was being pilfered by arrogant aristocrats.

Stop whining over your failed life, loser

 

[docmauser1]

But these hacks clearly don't understand that citizenship is what laws are based on...there are no rights afforded to Jewish citizens that Arabs, Muslims, Asians, Christians, etc., or anyone else doesn't have.

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Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

 

[P F Tinmore]

But these hacks clearly don't understand that citizenship is what laws are based on...there are no rights afforded to Jewish citizens that Arabs, Muslims, Asians, Christians, etc., or anyone else doesn't have.

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Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

http://lalqila.wordpress.com/2011/0...tion-181-“created”-israel-based-upon-an-unde/

 

[JStone]

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Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Jews have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years before there were even Rabs, moron.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

 

[P F Tinmore]

Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Jews have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years before there were even Rabs, moron.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

And that changes my post how?

 

[JStone]

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Jews have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years before there were even Rabs, moron.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

And that changes my post how?

If you had a functional brain, you'd be able to figure out the significance of Jews living in and ruling in Israel continuously for 3000 years, 2000 years before Arabs even existed, dummy.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

 

[P F Tinmore]

Jews have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years before there were even Rabs, moron.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

And that changes my post how?

If you had a functional brain, you'd be able to figure out the significance of Jews living in and ruling in Israel continuously for 3000 years, 2000 years before Arabs even existed, dummy.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

And they were a few percent of the population by the first of the 20th century. They were a part of the native Palestinian population.

What is your point?

 

[JStone]

And that changes my post how?

If you had a functional brain, you'd be able to figure out the significance of Jews living in and ruling in Israel continuously for 3000 years, 2000 years before Arabs even existed, dummy.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum

And they were a few percent of the population by the first of the 20th century. They were a part of the native Palestinian population.

What is your point?

Jews have been the predominant population of Israel for most of the past 3000 years, dummy.

Historian Sir Martin Gilbert...
For more than 1,600 years, the Jews formed the main settled population of Canaan and Israel. Although often conquered by Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks, Egyptians and Romans, they remained until the Roman conquest the predominant people of the land with long periods of complete independence

Jerusalem became the capital of the first Jewish kingdom in 1004 BC, over 3000 years ago. With the brief exception of the Crusader period, no other non-Jewish ruling power of Jerusalem made the city a capital but it was consistently a capital for the Jews. Driven into partial exile by Nebuchadnezzar in 586 BC, the Jews returned fifty years later and rebuilt Jerusalem as their capital. It was their capital, too, under the Maccabees.

By 1880 the Jews formed the majority of the population of Jerusalem

The unity of the city achieved in 1967, then, was more than a quirk of military geography. It was the fulfillment of unbroken historical longings.

 

[docmauser1]

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Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

 

[JStone]

Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

Winston Churchill, speaking before the Peel Commission, 1937, in response to a claim of Arabs being the indigenous population...
"The Jews had Palestine before that "indigenous population" [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it"

 

[CitizenPained]

Actually, Ptard ignores the large influx of Muslim (eg, Syrian and Egyptian) immigrants into the region in the 19th and 20th C. and the fact that such immigration was not as restricted...when Syrians ruled J'lem, the Jews living there had to bribe soldiers to let them make pilgrimages or publicly celebrate their holidays...the influx of Muslims in the area while the Jewish population remained small for several hundred years was due to antiSemitism and exploitation of the land by absentee califs and landords...not just because Muslims have super uteruses.

 

[CitizenPained]

He also ignores the fact that religious Jews (eg, majority before the rise of Labor Zionism) have just as many children as observant Muslims do. So by his logic, somehow the Muslims in the area were able to reproduce at a faster rate than normal instead of just increasing with a regular birth rate. Today, Muslims have a higher birth rate because they choose to do so. That wasn't the case a few generations ago.

Clearly, there was an influx of Muslim immigrants.

 

[Monnagonna]

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

Winston Churchill, speaking before the Peel Commission, 1937, in response to a claim of Arabs being the indigenous population...
"The Jews had Palestine before that "indigenous population" [the Arabs] came in and inhabited it"

So what? Just because someone was there way beforehand doesn't legitimize them coming back a thousand years later and killing people to take the land back.

 

[Monnagonna]

Must've been be the sounds of arab immigrants, putting their camels into overdrive to be the first fly on the jewish development of the land, no doubt about that, indeed.

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

Churchill was a MAJOR alcoholic. Got any sober people who like israel?

 

[JStone]

Growth of the Jewish population had been mainly the result of immigration, while growth of the Arab population had been “almost entirely” due to natural increase.

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

Churchill was a MAJOR alcoholic. Got any sober people who like israel?

Dimwit, Churchill was awarded honorary American citizenship by John F. Kennedy, the highest honor accorded a non-citizen.
John F. Kennedy: Proclamation 3525 - Declaring Sir Winston Churchill an Honorary Citizen of the United States of America

Shouldn't you be out genociding aboriginals? [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8do5BVTkYfI]Hidden from history...The Canadian Genocide - YouTube[/ame]

 

[Monnagonna]

Oh, let's dispense with political correctness, that has obscenely proliferated every discourse and has been subverting realitiy that was, is, and will be, and recall the memorable words of our expert on all things arab, Winnie Churchill, "So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied until their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."
Duuh.

Churchill was a MAJOR alcoholic. Got any sober people who like israel?

Dimwit, Churchill was awarded honorary American citizenship by John F. Kennedy, the highest honor accorded a non-citizen.
John F. Kennedy: Proclamation 3525 - Declaring Sir Winston Churchill an Honorary Citizen of the United States of America

Shouldn't you be out genociding aboriginals?

Kennedy was a major alcoholic and a womanizer. Got anyone sober who likes israel?

 

[P F Tinmore]

He also ignores the fact that religious Jews (eg, majority before the rise of Labor Zionism) have just as many children as observant Muslims do. So by his logic, somehow the Muslims in the area were able to reproduce at a faster rate than normal instead of just increasing with a regular birth rate. Today, Muslims have a higher birth rate because they choose to do so. That wasn't the case a few generations ago.

Clearly, there was an influx of Muslim immigrants.

He also ignores the fact that religious Jews (eg, majority before the rise of Labor Zionism)...

Not at all. In fact that has been one of my points. Whenever someone says "the Jews" they are confusing the issue. There were three different groups of Jews.

1) The native Jews. Most of these Jews had lived in Palestine forever. They were religious. They had an amicable relationship with their Muslim and Christian neighbors. They were a part of Palestine's native population. They were opposed to the establishment of a Jewish state. This group is still opposed to a Jewish state.

2) The Zionist Jews. They had little or no ancestral connection to the holy land. They were not religious. Their plan was to shove the natives aside and create a Jewish state in Palestine. They had considerable help from he British who had centuries of experience in shoving natives aside.

3) Every day Jews. The Zionists imported Jews by the boatload from wherever they could find them to create facts on the ground and to be placeholders on stolen land. (settlers) They were promised peace and prosperity and they took advantage of that promise. Generally they had no ill intent. They went to Palestine simply to have a better life.

 

[JStone]

He also ignores the fact that religious Jews (eg, majority before the rise of Labor Zionism) have just as many children as observant Muslims do. So by his logic, somehow the Muslims in the area were able to reproduce at a faster rate than normal instead of just increasing with a regular birth rate. Today, Muslims have a higher birth rate because they choose to do so. That wasn't the case a few generations ago.

Clearly, there was an influx of Muslim immigrants.

He also ignores the fact that religious Jews (eg, majority before the rise of Labor Zionism)...

Not at all. In fact that has been one of my points. Whenever someone says "the Jews" they are confusing the issue. There were three different groups of Jews.

1) The native Jews. Most of these Jews had lived in Palestine forever. They were religious. They had an amicable relationship with their Muslim and Christian neighbors. They were a part of Palestine's native population. They were opposed to the establishment of a Jewish state. This group is still opposed to a Jewish state.

2) The Zionist Jews. They had little or no ancestral connection to the holy land. They were not religious. Their plan was to shove the natives aside and create a Jewish state in Palestine. They had considerable help from he British who had centuries of experience in shoving natives aside.

3) Every day Jews. The Zionists imported Jews by the boatload from wherever they could find them to create facts on the ground and to be placeholders on stolen land. (settlers) They were promised peace and prosperity and they took advantage of that promise. Generally they had no ill intent. They went to Palestine simply to have a better life.

Jews have lived in and ruled in Israel for 3000 years, 3000 years before so-called Palestinians even existed.

Harvard Semitic Museum: The Houses of Ancient Israel...
In archaeological terms The Houses of Ancient Israel: Domestic, Royal, Divine focuses on the Iron Age (1200-586 B.C.E.). Iron I (1200-1000 B.C.E.) represents the premonarchical period. Iron II (1000-586 B.C.E.) was the time of kings. Uniting the tribal coalitions of Israel and Judah in the tenth century B.C.E., David and Solomon ruled over an expanding realm. After Solomon's death (c. 930 B.C.E.) Israel and Judah separated into two kingdoms.
Israel was led at times by strong kings, Omri and Ahab in the ninth century B.C.E. and Jereboam II in the eighth. The Houses of Ancient Israel § Semitic Museum