Revisiting The Congressional Resolution On Iraq

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    Pretty hard to claim 'not understanding' as so many of the democrats now are:

    http://hnn.us/articles/1282.html

     
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    They didn't know they had to actually read the whole thing. That moron Bush tricked them into voting for it.:blah2: :blah2: :blah2:
     
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    :beer: :clap1: :read: :duh3:
     
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    Now, if you'll read the UN resolutions regarding Iraq, none give the US authority to engage in military action outside the framework of the UN. And let's not forget the "...the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy..." rather than the policy to the facts and intel as is proper.

    And we have the report of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence with its report on the pre-war intel, which bears out the fact that Chimpy and Co overstated Iraq's military and WMD capacity and fabricated a relationship between Sadam Hussein and Osama bin Laden out of whole cloth. The emperor's new clothes are rapidly being revealed for the empty fabrications they truly are.
     
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    No one gives a rats ass ,bully. So what? You wanna impeach him? Go ahead!
     
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    Contrary to some quarters, the US, including the Congress, operate by the authority of the Constitution, with the power being derived from the people.
    The people did NOT agree to the UN becoming the higher law.

    As posted elsewhere, the Senate Select Committee, ignores information that has been released from the documents found in Iraq and transcibed. Can't have it both ways, Bully; you want truth or you want your truth?
     
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    The US is not beholden to the UN for authority to do anything.

    For the fifteenth-billion time, pretty much every nation in the world's intelligence had the same asessment of Iraq's military capability.

    If you read what is actually written, the document does not suppose a relationship between Saddam and OBL. Let's review:

    That statement is backed by fact.

    Maybe you better look for a backup outfit.
     
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    Not yet, anyway. I fear this may become the case if the Dems get back in control.

    AMEN, Gunny. I have mentioned this too. The truth is dismissed because it doesn't fit their agenda.
     
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    Kathianne, did you start this thread to stir up an orgy of wargasms amongst your kind?

    Iraq revisted

    Bush Sr and Saddam

    August 25, 1988 Iraq gasses Kurds near Turkish border.

    October 2, 1989 President Bush Sr signs National Security Directive 26 calling for closer ties to Iraq.

    October 31, 1989 Baker call Yueter to urge him to approve additional loan guarantees for Iraq.

    January 1990 Investigations discover $3 billion dollars in unauthorized BNL loans to Iraq.

    January 17, 1990 Bush Sr waives the embargo placed by Congress on Eximbank credits to Iraq.


    Bush SR and Cheney the Back Stabbers

    On August 2, 1990 the Iraqi army entered Kuwait. A couple of days earlier, Saddam conferred with April Glaspie, America's Ambassador to Iraq and told her that he was going to enter Kuwait, and she told him that it was all fine by her bosses.

    When she came back to the United States her bosses changed their minds, so she changed hers.

    Saddam, had secretly taped the conversation he had with April Glaspie, so when she denied that it had ever taken place, Saddam sent a copy of the tape to the NY Times. MS Glaspie was embarrassed but Cheney and Bush Sr carried on like Glaspie tape didn't exist. Saddam and the People of the United States are about to be had.

    If Saddam had been buying weapons from U.S. weapons makers, Bush Sr and Cheney would have waved by by to Kuwait. But Saddam didn't have any money, he was in debt, he couldn't purchase U.S made weapons like Israel can, which is to bad because Bush Sr and Cheney's foreign polciy has always been this: to all bad guys we say, killing of any kind is a okay when you buy weapons of mass destruction USA made.

    Is it really the need to promote respect for the independence, sovereignty, and territorial integrity of states that motivated Bush Sr and Cheney to urge this war against Iraq? is that really the reason?

    The United States faxed resolution 661 to the members of the United Nations. Resolution 661 amounted to a sanction to be applied to Iraq whether Iraq pulled out of Kuwait or not.

    Bush Sr and Cheney never used diplomacy first and force as a last resort. In the first Gulf War, 125,000 troops was being deployed within days after the news about Kuwait was heard around the world.

    Bush Sr and Cheney pulled off something that has never been done in the history of the United Nation, which is they bullied Resolution 665 in the United Nation. What 665 means is that for the first time in the history of the United Nations a resolution was adopted that authorizes the use of force to ensure compliance with an embargo, in this case an embargo against Iraq.

    What is the violation that Bush Sr and Cheney committed? It stems from the fact that a decision has been made to apply measures that involve the use of force and that this has been done without first establishing that the steps taken so far within the context of Resolution 661 are inadequate and have been proven to be so. This action was taken not by invoking Article 42 of the Charter as is legally required.

    Cheney and Bush Sr violation is a deceitful and unlawful reinterpretation of the UN Charter.

    What set a lot of people off against Saddam was an emotional pitch by a lady about Iraqi soldiers ripping babies out of incubators and smashing their heads against a wall. After the war it was revealed that this lady was a Kuwait movie actress. The entire scam was put together by an Advertising Agency.

    Why does Kuwait exits? Kuwait was part of Iraq's Basra Province until 1899 when Britain redrew its boundaries, divided it from Iraq and declared Kuwait it's colony. That's right folks Kuwait is not even a legitimate country. Like the fact says it was part of Iraq's Basra Province until it was ripped off by the Brits, Why did the Brits rip it off? hint: it's the oil stupid, that's why that movie Syrianna has got all those rightwing screwballs going to the doctors to get the panties out of the a hole.

    Both Sr and Cheney went on to make big bucks working for military contractors, which brings the question, "To the People of the United States, why did you ignore Eisenhower's warning about the military industrial complex?"

    Along comes Junior. Cheney has found himself a new bitch, one that has a trigger finger just like Daddy. Just like the first Gulf War, Junior and Cheney lies to the public about Iraq's relationship to 911 and Al. But unlike Gulf War I, Junior and Cheney couldn't get the United Nation to play along with "wargasm anyone?". Not to worry just ignore the United Nation and lie to the people of the United States about Iraq's oldy moldy weapons and take all that money out of the ignorant taxpayers and put it all in the War Profitter's pocket.

    America you got clowned twice. You know what that means. Shame on you. It also means don't listen to rightwing revisionist ie Kathianne.
     
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    PRIOR TO the invasion of Iraq, and subsequent information, most of the world, to include Clinton and his administration, HAD TO operate on the premise that Saddam posessed and was willing to use WMDs -- he setting that precedent by actually doing so against the Kurds and Iran.

    At the time of invasion, more than a few tons of bio and chemical weapons ingredients were and still are unaccounted for.

    In 1991, The Iraqi Army was pretty well-equipped with NBC protective gear -- this I saw firsthand. The only person in the region to use chemical weapons was Saddam. If he did not posess them nor intend to use them, what was the gear for?

    Saddam led UN Inspectors on wild goose chases for no reason? If he wasn't hiding anything, the point to that would be WHAT? To provke the US into kicking his ass? Makes sense to me.:wtf:

    Saddam encroached into the "No Fly Zones" and fired on US aircraft continually.

    Saddam turned as much of the "Oil for Food" money as he could into cash and lived quite the opulent lifestyle while the people of Iraq suffered, and his demonic whelps ran amock terrorizing the populace.

    Saddam financially supported Hezbollah. Documented fact.

    al Zarqawi had an AQ training camp in Iraq. Documented fact.

    Saddam Hussein attempted to have the President of the US assassinated. Documented fact.

    A reasonable mind would see the combined offenses as violations of every UN Resolution, and more importantly, the conditions of the cease-fire that kept us from steamrolling his butt in 91.

    IMO, he should have been dealt with in 93 when a very functional and new bio weapons lab was discovered. You know, to make that "stuff" he didn't have.:rolleyes:

    The left's argument is pure garbage, revisionist, and boils down to nothing more than throwing dirt on Bush and/or his administration.
     

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