Ret. Gen. Stanley McChrystal backs banning assault weapons

[M14 Shooter]

The NRA vehemently disagrees that property owners have the right to ban weapons being brought on their own property.

False.
The NRA does not in any way oppose me telling you that you many not be on my property while you have a gun.

Really? Tell that to former Tennessee Republican State Representative Debra Maggart, who had an NRA A rating. The N.R.A. spent around $100,000 to defeat her in the primary, because she would not support a bill that would have allowed people to keep guns locked in their cars on private property without the property owner’s consent.

Let me rephrase, since I was obviously not clear enough.
The NRA does not in any way oppose me telling you that you many not be in my house while you have a gun

 

[M14 Shooter]

He doesn't really care. He's happy with whatever his nanny state says is good for him. He's a good little sheeple.

3% of the population, kwc57, is not going to tell the rest of us common sense folks what to do. You do not have the right to endanger the rest of us.

To defend yourself you don't need more than a shot gun, or a rifle with a 10-shot clip, or a pistol or a revolver.

You are wacks on the ultra right and libertarian sides: no reasoning with you.

It's you who are the mindless drones. What is an assault gun?

StuG III
StuH 42
Brummbar

 

[M14 Shooter]

Frank, you are entitled to your opinion. However, if the American people say "eliminate this type of weapon and that type of magazine" in great numbers, Congress will walk right over the NRA.

You misspelled "Constitution".

You wingnuts always want to ignore the "well regulated" part.
Dumbass.

You dumbasses always want to act like this hasn't been settled, with your point of view duly discarded.

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

 

[chikenwing]

Timothy McVeigh was once a member of the military,would you faun all over his words just because he was??

 

[hazlnut]

They throw their heroes under the bus.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

He was also on Jon Stewart last night. The rw's would have us believe that he hates Obama - not true, and that he agrees with the right that gangs, terrorists, illegals should have all the weapos they want, also not true.

Sorry nutters but he's seen the real thing and does not support your screwy ideas that every sicko in the country should be armed to blow up schools and theaters.

 

[hjmick]

Banning "assault weapons" would be fine and well, unfortunately, most of the guns they're talking about banning are not "assault weapons."

 

[Bfgrn]

Yes, #85 answers all foolish ultra right and libertarian comments on this issue.

This is in the hands of Congress and SCOTUS now, not the angry ultra right and libertarian folks.

Better memorize Heller en toto, folks, for it will be the precedent (not Lewis or Miller) on the limits of Congressional authority to limit and regulate certain types of weapons and technology.

Neither Justice Roberts nor Judge Scalia are your friends.

No, this is in the hands of 30,000,000 armed citizens, a great percentage of whom will tell both congress and the court to kiss their asses if either tries to take their firearms from them. Which is the EXACT reason the founders added the 2nd amendment, to tell a govt that is overstepping it's bounds to piss the hell off. As for Scalia and Roberts, screw them too if they decide to trample on our rights, because Armalite, Colt and Kalashnikov ARE our friends.

Bluster, the language of the fearful and the insecure.

 

[JakeStarkey]

3% of the population, kwc57, is not going to tell the rest of us common sense folks what to do. You do not have the right to endanger the rest of us.

To defend yourself you don't need more than a shot gun, or a rifle with a 10-shot clip, or a pistol or a revolver.

You are wacks on the ultra right and libertarian sides: no reasoning with you.

It's you who are the mindless drones. What is an assault gun?

StuG III
StuH 42
Brummbar

You don't have the numbers or the organization to withstand We the People as we direct Congress and SCOTUS.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You misspelled "Constitution".

You wingnuts always want to ignore the "well regulated" part.
Dumbass.

You dumbasses always want to act like this hasn't been settled, with your point of view duly discarded.

The Second Amendment protects an individual right to possess a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes, such as self-defense within the home.

That is your interp, which unfortunately, can be overturned via Heller 1(F). Read it and weep.

 

[daveman]

Thank heavens I am free of libertarian looniness.

The fact is, folks, this: Congress and SCOTUS will deal with this as they please, Roberts and Scalia are not the gun nuts friends on the court, and the great majority of America believes certain types of guns must be regulated.

All your whining is for nothing, podjos.

All hail Government, from Whom all blessings flow.

We the People have instituted governments to protect the public from nuts like you, daveman.

To a far leftist, conservatives are nuts.

You keep revealing yourself. Why do you keep lying about what you are, kid?

 

[daveman]

Frank, you are entitled to your opinion. However, if the American people say "eliminate this type of weapon and that type of magazine" in great numbers, Congress will walk right over the NRA.

You misspelled "Constitution".

You wingnuts always want to ignore the "well regulated" part.


Dumbass.

You want to ignore the whole damn thing.

But that's only because you hate freedom.

 

[daveman]

I caught McChrystal on Morning Joe this morning. I hope some people who oppose any gun sense in this country will consider the words of a soldier.

Stanley McChrystal: Gun Control Requires 'Serious Action' - YouTube

Retired Gen. Stanley McChrystal backed banning assault weapons on Tuesday, saying guns like the M4 and M16 belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets.

”I spent a career carrying typically either a M16 and later, a M4 carbine,” McChrystal said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “And a M4 carbine fires a .223 caliber round, which is 5.56 millimeters, at about 3,000 feet per second. When it hits a human body, the effects are devastating. It’s designed to do that. That’s what our soldiers ought to carry.”

He added, “I personally don’t think there’s any need for that kind of weaponry on the streets and particularly around the schools in America. I believe that we’ve got to take a serious look — I understand everybody’s desire to have whatever they want — we have to protect our children and our police and we have to protect our population. And I think we have to take a very mature look at that.”

Read more: Stanley McChrystal backs gun restrictions - Kevin Robillard - POLITICO.com


"The care of human life and happiness, and not their destruction, is the first and only legitimate object of good government"
Thomas Jefferson to the Republican Citizens of Washington County, Maryland" (March 31, 1809).

show me any high-ranking military officer, past or present...

and, 90% of the time, I will show you a person who has his head so far up his ass his neck is permanently stained brown...


eta: this asshole needs to be visited by the ghosts of the Framers in his fevered dreams...

Why does a post like this get a pass, where if you had made a post about REMFs people would be on your ass?

Because on the whole, he's right. High-ranking officers don't like in the same world we do.

 

[daveman]

30mm Americans are not going to rise up, not 3 thousand even. If such happens, such will be a police matter, and those who resist will undoubtedly be shot to death. Heavens help any other persons in those numbskulls' vicinity.

What will really happen is. HSA and the state BoIs are building lists of the several thousands in the several states who are risks to the community. The appropriate tactics will be taken to arrest them separately away from their homes.

There will no mass unrest.

All hail Government, from Whom all blessings flow.

 

[JakeStarkey]

30mm Americans are not going to rise up, not 3 thousand even. If such happens, such will be a police matter, and those who resist will undoubtedly be shot to death. Heavens help any other persons in those numbskulls' vicinity.

What will really happen is. HSA and the state BoIs are building lists of the several thousands in the several states who are risks to the community. The appropriate tactics will be taken to arrest them separately away from their homes.

There will no mass unrest.

All hail Government, from Whom all blessings flow.

Since sensible Americans inhabit right of center to left of center will support support such government action, an ultra right wack or libertarian loon will see such a law enforcement operation as evil and awful.

 

[jtpr312]

Yes, #85 answers all foolish ultra right and libertarian comments on this issue.

This is in the hands of Congress and SCOTUS now, not the angry ultra right and libertarian folks.

Better memorize Heller en toto, folks, for it will be the precedent (not Lewis or Miller) on the limits of Congressional authority to limit and regulate certain types of weapons and technology.

Neither Justice Roberts nor Judge Scalia are your friends.

No, this is in the hands of 30,000,000 armed citizens, a great percentage of whom will tell both congress and the court to kiss their asses if either tries to take their firearms from them. Which is the EXACT reason the founders added the 2nd amendment, to tell a govt that is overstepping it's bounds to piss the hell off. As for Scalia and Roberts, screw them too if they decide to trample on our rights, because Armalite, Colt and Kalashnikov ARE our friends.

A "friend" of yours is Kalashnikov? Really? Well, since the GOP views Russians or people who are friends with Russians to be communist sympathizers, when did you change your views and become a commie pinko?

Oh how simple it is to confuse the simple mnded. Here, let's buy you a clue Dim. When the name Kalashnikov is used in conjuction with the names Armalite and Colt, espcially when taken in the context of being armed, any person with even a modicum of intelligence would know the speaker is making refrence to the weapons made by that name, and not the person of that name.

 

[jtpr312]

30mm Americans are not going to rise up, not 3 thousand even. If such happens, such will be a police matter, and those who resist will undoubtedly be shot to death. Heavens help any other persons in those numbskulls' vicinity.

What will really happen is. HSA and the state BoIs are building lists of the several thousands in the several states who are risks to the community. The appropriate tactics will be taken to arrest them separately away from their homes.

There will no mass unrest.

You're a freaking moron aren't you? The ENTIRE might of the US Military, not to mention the entire might of the Soviet Union, could NOT disarm a few tens of thousands of stone aged rag heads in Afghanistan. What in God''s name makes you think the Police would be able to disarm even 1% of the 80,000,000+ armed American citizens if they chose to tell the govt to kiss their asses? If even 1% said they would not give up their 2nd Amendment right and decided to fight for that right, how many mothers and 12, 15 and 17yr old kids, do you think the govt will kill before they realize the fallacy of their actions and decide stripping us of our rights is not only not going to be stood for, but is not going to be as easy as they thought? We understand that this nation is filled with cowardly scum like you who would do nothing to protect their rights or the rights of their fellow citizens, but I would venture to guess that there are at the very least hundreds and hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of Americans, including many in Law Enforcement and the Military, who think differently and who have the balls to stand up for their rights and stand against those who would try to strip those rights away from them. That's the problem with a coward, they project their cowardice onto ohters and then are surprised when they realize not eveyone is a trembling, little pussy like they are. That some people place a higher value on their freedom than they do on their comfort or even their lives. Sucks to be a punk slick.

 

[jtpr312]

Yes, #85 answers all foolish ultra right and libertarian comments on this issue.

This is in the hands of Congress and SCOTUS now, not the angry ultra right and libertarian folks.

Better memorize Heller en toto, folks, for it will be the precedent (not Lewis or Miller) on the limits of Congressional authority to limit and regulate certain types of weapons and technology.

Neither Justice Roberts nor Judge Scalia are your friends.

No, this is in the hands of 30,000,000 armed citizens, a great percentage of whom will tell both congress and the court to kiss their asses if either tries to take their firearms from them. Which is the EXACT reason the founders added the 2nd amendment, to tell a govt that is overstepping it's bounds to piss the hell off. As for Scalia and Roberts, screw them too if they decide to trample on our rights, because Armalite, Colt and Kalashnikov ARE our friends.

Bluster, the language of the fearful and the insecure.

Project much scrote?

 

[zeke]

RISE UP JTPR. Lead the revolution. We need to cull the herd of the stupid and ignorant.

But thank you for dying over a gun (assault weapons) that the vast majority of Americans don't have or want or need. But you go get'em dude.

Fuking idiot.

 

[daveman]

30mm Americans are not going to rise up, not 3 thousand even. If such happens, such will be a police matter, and those who resist will undoubtedly be shot to death. Heavens help any other persons in those numbskulls' vicinity.

What will really happen is. HSA and the state BoIs are building lists of the several thousands in the several states who are risks to the community. The appropriate tactics will be taken to arrest them separately away from their homes.

There will no mass unrest.

All hail Government, from Whom all blessings flow.

Since sensible Americans inhabit right of center to left of center will support support such government action, an ultra right wack or libertarian loon will see such a law enforcement operation as evil and awful.

Government is good and righteous and holy. To act against the wishes of Government is to commit apostasy.