Republicans study says stimulus worked

[Truthmatters]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

 

[Leweman]

Well it looks at just the energy sector in Florida so it's examining just a small section where it supposedly succeeded. Even that claim is iffy.

From the article :

While Putnam’s report claims that stimulus funds created some jobs in the so-called green energy sector, it is silent on the jobs destroyed elsewhere in the economy by taking dollars out of these sectors and directing them to green energy programs. It is also silent on the jobs that may be destroyed in future years as government will need to increase taxes to pay down the debt used to finance the 2009 stimulus bill.

 

[Katzndogz]

No one could seriously deny that the stimulus indeed failed. It's only success was in the kickbacks to the DNC.

 

[PredFan]

Well it looks at just the energy sector in Florida so it's examining just a small section where it supposedly succeeded. Even that claim is iffy.

From the article :

While Putnam’s report claims that stimulus funds created some jobs in the so-called green energy sector, it is silent on the jobs destroyed elsewhere in the economy by taking dollars out of these sectors and directing them to green energy programs. It is also silent on the jobs that may be destroyed in future years as government will need to increase taxes to pay down the debt used to finance the 2009 stimulus bill.

Another Truthmatters fail.

 

[syrenn]

 

[Truthmatters]

A report commissioned by a prominent Florida





Republican isn’t taking the usual GOP line on the Obama administration’s stimulus package.

A newly-released audit from the office of Republican Florida Agriculture Commissioner Adam Putnam, a Mitt Romney supporter and former member of the U.S. House Republican leadership, says that the 2009 stimulus bill did benefit the state of Florida.

“Based on reports received by the [Office of Energy], the State of Florida has benefited from the investment of [American Recovery and Reinvestment Act] funds,” the report says, pointing to jobs created and retained as well as energy cost savings through the distribution of stimulus funds.


http://www.nationaljournal.com/2012...-leader-says-stimulus-helped-florida-20120824

 

[Charles_Main]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

The Study was of 1 specific Segment on 1 States Economy Dip Shit.

Dishonest much?

 

[Truthmatters]

the study showed the stimulus worked.


I know it blows your whole stack of lies but facts are facts

 

[ShaklesOfBigGov]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

From what the Florida "audit" entailed, is that home owners who made the decision to purchase more efficient appliances were able to save on their energy costs. They also discussed the rebates the Federal Government offered for solar.

However how many homeowners in Florida have a solar panel in their back yard?

Where is this big economic BOOM in Florida and the massive surge of jobs? I have yet to find anyone speak about a flood of new construction going on in that state.

When it matters most: long term secure employment (and not temporary "teases" of a few jobs) the Stimulus has failed to turn the economy around. The steady creeping of unemployment numbers and the significantly higher underemployment rate already proves that.

 

[Leweman]

the study showed the stimulus worked.


I know it blows your whole stack of lies but facts are facts

It doesn't and we already have shown you why. Facts are facts.

 

[8537]

Well it looks at just the energy sector in Florida so it's examining just a small section where it supposedly succeeded. Even that claim is iffy.

From the article :

While Putnam’s report claims that stimulus funds created some jobs in the so-called green energy sector, it is silent on the jobs destroyed elsewhere in the economy by taking dollars out of these sectors and directing them to green energy programs. It is also silent on the jobs that may be destroyed in future years as government will need to increase taxes to pay down the debt used to finance the 2009 stimulus bill.

Which dollars were taken out of other sectors?

 

[RDD_1210]

This only talks about one portion of the stimulus, which is hardly definitive. However people who claim it failed don't have a measurement criteria in place to establish what success would be. If people were expecting the stimulus to recover everything we lost, of course they would consider it a failure. But no logical person would use that as the criteria for success.

 

[PredFan]

the study showed the stimulus worked.


I know it blows your whole stack of lies but facts are facts

Lair!

 

[Conservative]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

http://www.freshfromflorida.com/newsroom/resources/IA_1112-02_Final_Report-Operational_Audit_of_OOE.pdf

Importantly, the audit uncovered indications of suspected fraud by grant recipients.

The Shovel Ready Energy Project Grant provides another example of a program that has not made significant measurable impact.

While it is important to be strategic in awarding grants and expending funds, the slow rate at which OOE has awarded and expended these stimulus funds failed to generate immediate impact on a state facing difficult economic times.

This audit revealed significant failures in OOE management of grant programs...

Of the grant invoices reviewed, more than $800,000.00 worth of reimbursements paid were missing invoices.

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Rollercoaster are fun....

 

[Mad Scientist]

That study is proof that TM doesn't know how to read.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

No limits on the abject stupidity of Truthdoesn'tmater.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

That study is proof that TM doesn't know how to read.

She's by far the dumbest person I have ever encountered.

 

[Google]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

The extent of the left's desperation and delusion is unprecedented. This is the equivalent of Orwell's Doublespeak. The continual repetition of obvious falsehoods--what's more the zealous belief in these falsehoods like Truthmatters.

They obviously are not living in the same reality as those of us struggling with our family finances. It is pointless to talk to these people, especially TM, because they ardently and loyally believe that the massive spending by the federal government under the Obama administration has done everything that was promised, and was a smashing success.

There is no way TM actually works and pays bills, has children, a spouse, or anything resembling a life.

Debbie Shultz displayed this delusional doublespeak perfectly on CNN last night. When Anderson Cooper shockingly called her out on a blatant lie in a DNC fundraising email, she said it does not matter and refused to admit that it was a lie even when confronted with the truth.

The same will occur in trying to show TM here the truth.

 

[oldernwiser]

Report From Ex-House GOP Leader Says Stimulus Helped Florida - Naureen Khan - NationalJournal.com

http://www.freshfromflorida.com/newsroom/resources/IA_1112-02_Final_Report-Operational_Audit_of_OOE.pdf

Importantly, the audit uncovered indications of suspected fraud by grant recipients.

This audit revealed significant failures in OOE management of grant programs...

Of the grant invoices reviewed, more than $800,000.00 worth of reimbursements paid were missing invoices.

Awesome facts.

Now think of it like this: The Feds didn't give cash to individuals directly, the cash went to the states who distributed it as needed. If the stimulus money went into fraudulent ventures in a Republican state, how do you blame a Democrat president for that?