Republicans have a hard time moving from the minority party to the majority party

[ElmerMudd]

The Republicans are having a difficult time leading and providing solutions now that they are the majority party.

The Republicans are much better at OBSTRUCTING AND CRITICIZING than at LEADING and providing SOLUTIONS.

No one should criticize with out having a better solution. Republicans criticized and said they had solutions.

The American voters said here is the power, Republicans, you need to implement your solutions.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DELIVERING THE SOLUTIONS THEY PROMISED!

 

[yiostheoy]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

 

[Papageorgio]

Neither party is good at leading. The country has no real leaders just a lot of pretend leaders who have self interest as their motivation.

 

[S.J.]

Democrats are having a hard time accepting the fact that they lost the election. Republicans will find common ground on which to unite regarding healthcare but the Democrats will never be onboard with them, no matter what. Their only goal is to make him ineffective so they can come back in 4 years and say he didn't accomplish anything. Same old shit they always do when a Republican is POTUS. They don't care about doing anything for their country, only their party.

 

[ElmerMudd]

Neither party is good at leading. The country has no real leaders just a lot of pretend leaders who have self interest as their motivation.

I agree that both parties are inept, but the Republicans are the most inept.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

 

[S.J.]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
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Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

 

[KeiserC]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

The freedom caucus is more representative of those that put him into office. The establishment (moderate) Republicans are the ones that were in part openly against him... Grahm, Bush, Ryan etc. etc.....

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

The freedom caucus is more representative of those that put him into office. The establishment (moderate) Republicans are the ones that were in part openly against him... Grahm, Bush, Ryan etc. etc.....

I think that's probably true, and ironic. But my guess is that Trump won't forget what happened last week. That was big, and Trump has to know it.

It'll be interesting to see if any signals are sent out between Trump and the Dems.
.

 

[S.J.]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

Trump was looking for a victory. He wanted ACA replaced and was willing to accept Ryan's plan and make changes after that but Ryan's plan wasn't really a good plan. They can do better and WILL do better. They'll come up with a better plan and it'll pass. I don't see this as Trump being thrown under the bus as much as Ryan being thrown under the bus.

 

[Mac1958]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

Trump was looking for a victory. He wanted ACA replaced and was willing to accept Ryan's plan and make changes after that but Ryan's plan wasn't really a good plan. They can do better and WILL do better. They'll come up with a better plan and it'll pass. I don't see this as Trump being thrown under the bus as much as Ryan being thrown under the bus.

Well, I'm horrible at political predictions, so that could be. The party needs to make this a learning experience, because it wasn't pretty.
.

 

[KeiserC]

Getting back to the OP, The establishment Repubs. are still obsessing on how to placate the likes of Gutierez, the Hispanic vote, you name it group of the political 'left'. Not a winning strategy as those they are catering to will never end up siding with them in any scenario. Part of the reason the likes of Trump got elected is that, by and large, he un-apologetically stayed true to his convictions... not running around disingenuously trying to placate competing interest groups... Those that didn't like him or much about him, can stomach an unsavory character who gives it to them strait... harsh as it may be.

 

[S.J.]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

The freedom caucus is more representative of those that put him into office. The establishment (moderate) Republicans are the ones that were in part openly against him... Grahm, Bush, Ryan etc. etc.....

Agreed. We need to drain the swamp and purge the Grahams, McCains, and Ryans from the Republican Party.

 

[jwoodie]

The Health Care nonvote illustrates the problem with needing a 60 vote majority in the Senate. The GOP was trying to sneak an Obamacare-lite bill through as a budget measure only requiring 51 votes in the Senate, but the Freedom Caucus saw that as an empty measure that would let the Dems off the hook for the coming ACA implosion, instead hoping for a 60 vote majority after the 2018 elections.

 

[Norman]

The Republicans are having a difficult time leading and providing solutions now that they are the majority party.

The Republicans are much better at OBSTRUCTING AND CRITICIZING than at LEADING and providing SOLUTIONS.

No one should criticize with out having a better solution. Republicans criticized and said they had solutions.

The American voters said here is the power, Republicans, you need to implement your solutions.

THE REPUBLICANS ARE NOT DELIVERING THE SOLUTIONS THEY PROMISED!

Yeah, because the only philosophy that is viable is that "we should pass the bill immediately so we can find out what is in it".

It's been 60 days... damn. It should ring a bell that Trump is banning immigration so that he can gather the data on what to actually do. These people live so in the moment waiting to be outraged by whatever false news CNN provides next, that it's as if we were watching a kid next to a candy store or something.

 

[Papageorgio]

Neither party is good at leading. The country has no real leaders just a lot of pretend leaders who have self interest as their motivation.

I agree that both parties are inept, but the Republicans are the most inept.

If both are inept, then it really doesn't matter.

 

[ElmerMudd]

The GOP is a coalition of 3 separate groups with separate interests:

- the far right fringe that wants complete anarchy

- the middle right that wants more tax cuts for businesses and the rich

- the rebel Democrat blue collar workers who did not like Hillary.

If the GOP loses either one of these then they lose their majority.

But there is no way to please all 3.

So the GOP is going to be a lame duck for a long long time -- probably forever.

Yup. I mentioned in another thread, Trump's shocking win (temporarily) obscured the fact that the party is still in pieces, and he hasn't fixed that.

It will be fascinating to see who Trump finds it easier to work with - the Freedom Caucus or the Moderate Republicans and Moderate Democrats.
.

Democrats, moderate or otherwise, aren't going to work with him.

Could be. But the Freedom Caucus just threw him and their own party under the bus.

That may get him thinking a bit. And he's never been a real conservative.
.

The freedom caucus is more representative of those that put him into office. The establishment (moderate) Republicans are the ones that were in part openly against him... Grahm, Bush, Ryan etc. etc.....

The freedom caucus policies will not help the people in the rust belt like Trump promised.
Healthcare and Tax Reform are two examples. Those poor people were conned by Trump.

 

[rightwinger]

Republicans were united in voting NO
That is always an easy thing to do

Agreeing what to vote YES on is where it gets hard
Republicans are clueless on how to reach a consensus. They are used to saying...If I don't get everything I want, I will vote against it

Hard to govern that way

 

[Seawytch]

It's tough going from class clown shooting spitballs to teachers pet. Maybe they'll get the hang of it...