Republicans double standard on Socialism

[Andylusion]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Yeah, and I heard the same thing in the 1990s when they were pushing welfare reform, that "These people are only kept alive by government welfare and food stamps!" they promised me that if we cut welfare and food stamps, people would die in the streets.

Instead, people just got jobs and found a way to make a living, instead of being a public tick sucking the blood from working people.

I wager that if you cut all those subsidies, that people would be just fine. They find other ways to make money.

 

[Andylusion]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Not sure if you are being snarky, arrogant, or short sighted, or if it is just your personnel interests that make you see the world the way you do, but we are all Americans, and all in the same boat.


Socialism for investors, capitalism for everyone else
With the Federal Reserve backstopping risky corporate debt, the U.S. economy has made itself thoroughly addicted to cheap credit and government rescues

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/socialism-investors-capitalism-everyone-else/

". . . Chair Jerome H. Powell and his Fed colleagues have been bold and creative in rescuing the financial system and the economy from the ravages of the coronavirus. What they have yet to demonstrate is that they can summon the same boldness and creativity to rein in a runaway shadow banking system and wean the economy off its addiction to cheap and easy credit. The bet on Wall Street is that they never will."

I don't understand that claim. It's true that the Federal Reserve is acting badly. But that is hardly socialism.

I personally am an investor. How is my stock in Netflix, being socialized? If Netflix declares bankruptcy, is the government going to pay more for my shares in Netflix that would be worth zero?

Explain to me in detail how my ownership of stock in Netflix is socialized. At what point to do I get money from the public?

 

[tyroneweaver]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

The billionaires that are controlling almost everything are democrats

Yup, struggling to think of one red-pilled Billionairre.
My Pillow Guy maybe. Look how the other billionairres are treating him.

ATT
amazon
facebook
twitter
microsoft

all owned by dems

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I understand it. Better than you do. Did you even read your own reference?
You know......the part about "Communism being the goal"?

I've read it many times and not all forms of socialism has communism as it's goal if that were true then your original definition would be but it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Since you are an idiot, here let me elaborate how Communism always ends up.
So you have a socialist utopia where everyone wants to be the same, what about the politicians who will always have more.
Those who participate in a socialist utopia , you know the farmers who work 16 hour days to provide food, then there is you, who wants the food but not work for it. Soon the farmer only produces enough food for himself and his family. Then the socialist government steps in and FORCES the farmer to produce more. Now you have Communism. Socialism always ends in either Fascism(far right) or Communism(far left). But always ends in disaster.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem here, is you have no formal education in the topic you claim to be addressing.

You posted a link to "Socialism," when what you are clearing advocating for is corporatism, IOW, a state where monopolisitic corporatism is in bed with nationalistic statist government. The portal you needed to seek out, was Dirigisme.

The wiki clearly states;

Capitalism
Part of a series on

Dirigisme - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Dirigiste Mind

C. B. Thorington September 9, 2016

"Particularly notable dirigistes from the past. From top-left clockwise: King Louis XIV of France, Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini
Image Credits from top-left clockwise: Wikimedia Commons/Louvre Museum, Wikimedia Commons/John Jabez Edwin Mayall,
Wikimedia Commons/German Federal Archives, Wikimedia Commons/Time.com
Recent thoughts I have had concerning Vladimir Putin, Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, and Benito Mussolini have led me to wonder about the following question: What causes any human being to adopt the dirigiste mind-set? There seem to be an awful lot of people in the world who believe economies would work one heck of a lot better if they were only more centrally directed by their government. These include progressives in the United States, Western European-style socialists in the European Union, the fascists of the Russian Federation, the communist mandarins of China, and most Japanese involved with the Japanese government. For that matter, I get the impression dirigisme claims most of humanity as believers. But what can possibly convert them all to that religion?

The Meaning of Dirigisme

Why am I using the word “dirigisme”, rather than socialism or fascism? The reason is because it is a broader classification than socialism or fascism, encompassing all socialists (which includes fascists), but also including less autocratic people who would nevertheless like to see a great deal of state intervention in the economy. For example, all Keynesians should be counted in the dirigiste ranks, and all American progressives are certainly dirigiste.. . . "

The Dirigiste Mind

Why do US progressives continue to believe in government management of the economy, despite all experience?

www.adividedworld.com

I was spanked for using the wiki and so I posted another link on socialism from Britannica which I repeat here you may think me ignorant on the subject and maybe I don't remember as much as you do, college was a long time ago but I had majors in Philosophy and Math. All I was trying to say is that not all socialism leads to communism. socialism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts As far as this country is concerned i don't believe it is a true democracy rather a Patriarchal Racist Republic founded with slavery and women as second class citizens.

You do know that before this country rebelled against a tyrannical government, that government was a ruling class monarchy? And those subjects who didnt want to pay the 3% tax on tea, decided that they were going to be free from the King, who allowed his subjects to have slaves? But to do so, the states had to be united, not divided, so the south were allowed to keep their slaves, until the war was over. Then the first civil rights act came up, and the southern whites voted against it, as usual.
Black History Timeline: 1700 - 1799 (thoughtco.com)

 

[wamose]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

You've described the neocons-Lincoln project Republicans perfectly. But Trump Republicans dislike them more than they do Democrats

 

[gipper]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Not sure if you are being snarky, arrogant, or short sighted, or if it is just your personnel interests that make you see the world the way you do, but we are all Americans, and all in the same boat.


Socialism for investors, capitalism for everyone else
With the Federal Reserve backstopping risky corporate debt, the U.S. economy has made itself thoroughly addicted to cheap credit and government rescues

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/socialism-investors-capitalism-everyone-else/

". . . Chair Jerome H. Powell and his Fed colleagues have been bold and creative in rescuing the financial system and the economy from the ravages of the coronavirus. What they have yet to demonstrate is that they can summon the same boldness and creativity to rein in a runaway shadow banking system and wean the economy off its addiction to cheap and easy credit. The bet on Wall Street is that they never will."

I don't understand that claim. It's true that the Federal Reserve is acting badly. But that is hardly socialism.

I personally am an investor. How is my stock in Netflix, being socialized? If Netflix declares bankruptcy, is the government going to pay more for my shares in Netflix that would be worth zero?

Explain to me in detail how my ownership of stock in Netflix is socialized. At what point to do I get money from the public?

Really? After what the government and Fed have been doing since 2008, you don’t see corporate welfare? You must be blind.

 

[gipper]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Yeah, and I heard the same thing in the 1990s when they were pushing welfare reform, that "These people are only kept alive by government welfare and food stamps!" they promised me that if we cut welfare and food stamps, people would die in the streets.

Instead, people just got jobs and found a way to make a living, instead of being a public tick sucking the blood from working people.

I wager that if you cut all those subsidies, that people would be just fine. They find other ways to make money.

You’re okay with cutting off welfare for the poor. Are you equally okay with cutting off welfare for the rich?

 

[MisterBeale]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The problem here, is you have no formal education in the topic you claim to be addressing.

You posted a link to "Socialism," when what you are clearing advocating for is corporatism, IOW, a state where monopolisitic corporatism is in bed with nationalistic statist government. The portal you needed to seek out, was Dirigisme.

The wiki clearly states;

Capitalism
Part of a series on

Dirigisme - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Dirigiste Mind

C. B. Thorington September 9, 2016

"Particularly notable dirigistes from the past. From top-left clockwise: King Louis XIV of France, Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, Benito Mussolini
Image Credits from top-left clockwise: Wikimedia Commons/Louvre Museum, Wikimedia Commons/John Jabez Edwin Mayall,
Wikimedia Commons/German Federal Archives, Wikimedia Commons/Time.com
Recent thoughts I have had concerning Vladimir Putin, Karl Marx, Adolf Hitler, and Benito Mussolini have led me to wonder about the following question: What causes any human being to adopt the dirigiste mind-set? There seem to be an awful lot of people in the world who believe economies would work one heck of a lot better if they were only more centrally directed by their government. These include progressives in the United States, Western European-style socialists in the European Union, the fascists of the Russian Federation, the communist mandarins of China, and most Japanese involved with the Japanese government. For that matter, I get the impression dirigisme claims most of humanity as believers. But what can possibly convert them all to that religion?

The Meaning of Dirigisme

Why am I using the word “dirigisme”, rather than socialism or fascism? The reason is because it is a broader classification than socialism or fascism, encompassing all socialists (which includes fascists), but also including less autocratic people who would nevertheless like to see a great deal of state intervention in the economy. For example, all Keynesians should be counted in the dirigiste ranks, and all American progressives are certainly dirigiste.. . . "

The Dirigiste Mind

Why do US progressives continue to believe in government management of the economy, despite all experience?

www.adividedworld.com

I was spanked for using the wiki and so I posted another link on socialism from Britannica which I repeat here you may think me ignorant on the subject and maybe I don't remember as much as you do, college was a long time ago but I had majors in Philosophy and Math. All I was trying to say is that not all socialism leads to communism. socialism | Definition, History, Examples, & Facts As far as this country is concerned i don't believe it is a true democracy rather a Patriarchal Racist Republic founded with slavery and women as second class citizens.

You really should gain some perspective.

This is a tree.

This is a forest

Next time, in your mind, you decide to compare societies and governments, do not compare our government with what we were in the past, but compare our past government, with the past governments of other nations, and our current government with other current governments. Otherwise, you engage in false equivalence fallacies and seek to rewrite the progress of human society, seeking to rewrite the history of humanity for your own agenda.

Our history, is what binds us together as a people. It is our triumphs, as well as our follies. This nation has a better history than any on the planet, so grow the hell up.

Ask any survivor of psychological or physical familial abuse, they will tell you, true healing does not come from denial of their trauma, but acceptance, confrontation, integration, resolution, and forgiveness.

 

[sartre play]

There are every kind of beliefs in America, land of the free. just like your entitled to hate every one who thinks different than you do.

 

[sartre play]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Yeah, and I heard the same thing in the 1990s when they were pushing welfare reform, that "These people are only kept alive by government welfare and food stamps!" they promised me that if we cut welfare and food stamps, people would die in the streets.

Instead, people just got jobs and found a way to make a living, instead of being a public tick sucking the blood from working people.

I wager that if you cut all those subsidies, that people would be just fine. They find other ways to make money.

Are you kidding, we have more people living on the street than we have ever had.

 

[MisterBeale]

Rural America is kept alive by a whole host of government programs, from farm subsidies to subsidized government loans

Not sure if you are being snarky, arrogant, or short sighted, or if it is just your personnel interests that make you see the world the way you do, but we are all Americans, and all in the same boat.


Socialism for investors, capitalism for everyone else
With the Federal Reserve backstopping risky corporate debt, the U.S. economy has made itself thoroughly addicted to cheap credit and government rescues

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/04/30/socialism-investors-capitalism-everyone-else/

". . . Chair Jerome H. Powell and his Fed colleagues have been bold and creative in rescuing the financial system and the economy from the ravages of the coronavirus. What they have yet to demonstrate is that they can summon the same boldness and creativity to rein in a runaway shadow banking system and wean the economy off its addiction to cheap and easy credit. The bet on Wall Street is that they never will."

I don't understand that claim. It's true that the Federal Reserve is acting badly. But that is hardly socialism.

I personally am an investor. How is my stock in Netflix, being socialized? If Netflix declares bankruptcy, is the government going to pay more for my shares in Netflix that would be worth zero?

Explain to me in detail how my ownership of stock in Netflix is socialized. At what point to do I get money from the public?

Federal Reserve's $3 trillion virus rescue inflates market bubbles

The Federal Reserve's $3 trillion bid to stave off an economic crisis in the wake of the coronavirus outbreak is fuelling excesses across U.S. capital markets.

www.reuters.com

 

[joeldr2x]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I understand it. Better than you do. Did you even read your own reference?
You know......the part about "Communism being the goal"?

I've read it many times and not all forms of socialism has communism as it's goal if that were true then your original definition would be but it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Since you are an idiot, here let me elaborate how Communism always ends up.
So you have a socialist utopia where everyone wants to be the same, what about the politicians who will always have more.
Those who participate in a socialist utopia , you know the farmers who work 16 hour days to provide food, then there is you, who wants the food but not work for it. Soon the farmer only produces enough food for himself and his family. Then the socialist government steps in and FORCES the farmer to produce more. Now you have Communism. Socialism always ends in either Fascism(far right) or Communism(far left). But always ends in disaster.

I have to disagree some socialist concepts work very well, in the Nordic Model of their form of Democracy with capitalism. In my opinion it works a lot better then our so called Democratic Republic. Whether it could work here is doubtful. The Nordic Model: Pros and Cons The very long term solution which will probably take centuries is miscegenation. I could supply you with a list of countries that in their constitution mention socialism but why bother.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

Ds are no different.

Ds are for increasing the minimum wage and healthcare reform.

 

[gipper]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

Ds are no different.

Ds are for increasing the minimum wage and healthcare reform.

Means nothing. They’re frauds. Everyone is for HC reform. Why are the Ds unwilling to pass M4A? Because they are frauds owned by big corporations, just like the Rs.

 

[danielpalos]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

Ds are no different.

Ds are for increasing the minimum wage and healthcare reform.

Means nothing. They’re frauds. Everyone is for HC reform. Why are the Ds unwilling to pass M4A? Because they are frauds owned by big corporations, just like the Rs.

Republicans had nothing but repeal for the healthcare reform implemented by the previous democrat administration and had four years to come up with something, but had nothing and merely lied about it, and they are against raising the minimum wage now.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I understand it. Better than you do. Did you even read your own reference?
You know......the part about "Communism being the goal"?

I've read it many times and not all forms of socialism has communism as it's goal if that were true then your original definition would be but it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Since you are an idiot, here let me elaborate how Communism always ends up.
So you have a socialist utopia where everyone wants to be the same, what about the politicians who will always have more.
Those who participate in a socialist utopia , you know the farmers who work 16 hour days to provide food, then there is you, who wants the food but not work for it. Soon the farmer only produces enough food for himself and his family. Then the socialist government steps in and FORCES the farmer to produce more. Now you have Communism. Socialism always ends in either Fascism(far right) or Communism(far left). But always ends in disaster.

I have to disagree some socialist concepts work very well, in the Nordic Model of their form of Democracy with capitalism. In my opinion it works a lot better then our so called Democratic Republic. Whether it could work here is doubtful. The Nordic Model: Pros and Cons The very long term solution which will probably take centuries is miscegenation. I could supply you with a list of countries that in their constitution mention socialism but why bother.

It really works well, when you dont have to contribute to your security like NATO, because the big guy covers for ya. When you can do that, you can give out more free stuff. Sorry , but Socialism is always failure, and we are soon heading towards failure with all the debt this country is accruing.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time (usdebtclock.org)

Look at the total US debt.....82 trillion. We arent going to last much longer.

 

[initforme]

Social security and Medicare rank as two of the greatest things this nation has ever created. They are a huge part of what makes america great. How many millions of work until you drop americans have benefited from thos two programs. And some anti americans want them gone.

 

[Dragonlady]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

Okay, first of all, Repubs aren't the only ones who turn a blind eye to our tax dollars going to corporate subsidies, grants, loans, etc. I you don't think there are democrats who protect the businesses and corporations in their districts and states then you are an ideological fool. Everybody in DC protects their political interests by inserting exceptions and provisions into spending legislation to make sure their specific ox does not get gored. Everybody, don't give me this crap that it's only the GOP.

Corporate subsidies, grants, loans, etc., is NOT socialism. A lot of it is crony capitalism, and neither political party has any moral high ground to stand on. What they want to do is screw over the other party's supporters and protect their own political interests.

"let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!"

This is absolute, unadulterated bullshit.

No we dont look at her and say "that lazy socialist bitch". We look at those who bitch and moan how their lives suck, while smoking dope, living in their parents basement. That is the lazy socialist bitch/bastard...Cant be sexist there...

The ONLY people I see bitching and moaning about how their lives suck are Americans. Everybody I know here is just itching to get vaccinated and back to the lives we're missing. They're bitching about only getting $2000 a month in CERB, plus $500 per child. They're really done with lockdown.

You think illegals are stealing your jobs, the government is stealing your money, and everyone is lying to you and trying to screw you over. The Democrats are communists trying to destroy the country.

None of this is happening were I live. My life does not suck. The lives of my family and friends, do not suck. There are things we can improve. We can always make things better, but life is really pretty good. I live in a lovely town, have a decent amount of income, good health, and nice home in a rent controlled building.

 

[Dragonlady]

Republicans are a strange group when it comes to Socialism. They turn a blind eye to the hundreds of billions of our tax dollars freely given away to the Fortune 500 in the form of corporate subsidies, grants, rollover - no bid contracts and other corporate welfare goodies, most of which is spent on stock buy backs, inflated pay for their exec's and lavish offshore corporate retreats. but....let a recently laid off waitress apply for food stamps to feed herself and her children while she applies for another job, and Republicans point their fingers and scream that SHE is the reason America is in decline, that lazy Socialist bitch!!

Are you folks aware that twice as much tax money is spent on corporate welfare as on social welfare? I read the quarterly financial reports for Goldman Sachs, Exxon Mobile, Wal-Mart, Bank of America and other collectors of corporate welfare. They don't need any more of our tax dollars, in fact most of them are swimming in cash.

So - Why the Republican double standard on Socialism??

How Corporate Welfare Hurts You

When corporations get special handouts from the government, we have to pay more in taxes to make up for these hidden tax breaks, subsidies, and loopholes.

prospect.org

This argument is so old and outdated it's ridiculous.
Clearly corporations aren't peopled with just conservatives.
That excuse went out the window when Twitter decided to cut off Trump's account.
Not only is most of the money in this country in the possession of the Left...but many Republicans aren't true conservatives.

But I think you have a problem understanding what real socialism is.
It's not free money paid by the taxpayer.
It's primarily government controlling all forms of food production and the total absence of private property ownership.

For your edification there are different forms of socialism and I provided a link where you can understand the differences which evidently you don't. Socialism - Simple English Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I understand it. Better than you do. Did you even read your own reference?
You know......the part about "Communism being the goal"?

I've read it many times and not all forms of socialism has communism as it's goal if that were true then your original definition would be but it isn't. Sorry to burst your bubble.

Since you are an idiot, here let me elaborate how Communism always ends up.
So you have a socialist utopia where everyone wants to be the same, what about the politicians who will always have more.
Those who participate in a socialist utopia , you know the farmers who work 16 hour days to provide food, then there is you, who wants the food but not work for it. Soon the farmer only produces enough food for himself and his family. Then the socialist government steps in and FORCES the farmer to produce more. Now you have Communism. Socialism always ends in either Fascism(far right) or Communism(far left). But always ends in disaster.

I have to disagree some socialist concepts work very well, in the Nordic Model of their form of Democracy with capitalism. In my opinion it works a lot better then our so called Democratic Republic. Whether it could work here is doubtful. The Nordic Model: Pros and Cons The very long term solution which will probably take centuries is miscegenation. I could supply you with a list of countries that in their constitution mention socialism but why bother.

It really works well, when you dont have to contribute to your security like NATO, because the big guy covers for ya. When you can do that, you can give out more free stuff. Sorry , but Socialism is always failure, and we are soon heading towards failure with all the debt this country is accruing.

U.S. National Debt Clock : Real Time (usdebtclock.org)

Look at the total US debt.....82 trillion. We arent going to last much longer.

Bullshit on the NATO crap. You've never defended us, but NATO has defended YOU. You spent the money because YOU WANTED TO. We didn't ask you to do this. But we have neither the need nor the desire to do more than 2 % and you people are fools to think you need to spend this kind of money.