Republican House passes bill giving Government vast new powers

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    "Hi, I'm from the government, and I'm here to help keep you safe"

    The GOP House passed a Cybersecurity Bill today.

    It allows the government to collect vastly more information on private individuals. It brings big business into the service of collecting, storing, and transferring data on private individuals to Big Government

    Republicans are growing government under the cloak of national security. By giving government more access to the internet tracks and buying habits of private citizens, Republicans believe that it will be easier for bureaucrats to protect us.

    Here is the problem. Government is incompetent, and it is run by flawed human beings, some of whom are corrupt. This is why Libertarians oppose giving government more power, even when it is for a good cause like national security. Libertarians oppose giving government large powerful levers because they don't believe concentrated power can be safely or effectively used. They don't believe Big Government has the competence to save or improve the world. They think that giving government more power only leads to waste and abuse.

    Today Republicans further eroded privacy barriers between the State and the Individual. They made it easier for Big Government to watch free citizens.

    Here is my question. Why do Republicans keep growing government? And why do their voters never see it? And why do they never raise issues that are not handed to them by Republican media sources. For example, Republican media sources will not cover this; therefore, none of the Republicans on this board will know about it.

    Republicans are destroying the barrier between the individual and state. It is now easier for Government to watch, pry, and detain.

    Where is the Tea Party on this issue? Obviously, the Tea Party is locked into rightwing media sources which are not covering this issue. We all knew they were a reflex of the Republican Machine.

    The Republicans always use National Security to grow the power of Washington. Reagan's War On Drugs and Bush's War on Terrorism grew Big Government (through law enforcement and intelligence powers) more than anything LBJ ever dreamed.

    Why do Republicans always grow government? And why do their voters never see it?

    Please turn off Rush Limbaugh and get your news from planet earth.
     
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    You don't really have all your facts straight, but then again, you sound like a partisan leftist hack anyway...

    House passes cyber security bill over Obama's objections - CSMonitor.com

     
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    Can you say thought police. Our generation is so fortunate yet so cursed at the same time. We will get to see the introduction of amazing technology, and we will get to see it used against us in the end.

    Guilty until proven innocent is the mantra of a post 911 world. We will give up all our freedoms in the end so that the government can give us the illusion of safety.
     
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    big government conservatives?
     
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    Disable your anti-virus program right now.
     
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    Similar to the concept behind Homeland Security information sharing:

    'Napolitano Backs Senate Cybersecurity Bill, Industry Reporting Requirement — Homeland Security Department Secretary Janet Napolitano told lawmakers the White House approves of the Lieberman Senate computer security legislation requiring critical sectors to report network intrusions to the government. The information-sharing measures that she supports would involve businesses whose computers are vital to U.S. financial markets, power grids, transportation systems and other services that if disrupted, could cause mass casualties, prolonged evacuations or catastrophic economic damage. Covered companies would have to inform the government of "significant cyber incidents" that jeopardize their systems or be subject to civil penalties, reports Nextgov.com.'
     
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    Are you assuming that the only value of privacy is to hide something?

    I think you have way too much faith in the competence of government. What if a corrupt president was elected and he used his Federal powers under this act to track gun sales so that he could confiscate them? What if a president used the Patriot Act to track the financial withdraws of Democratic Governors? And what it that governor was stupid enough to take out more than 10K and spend it on hookers? What if a rogue administration started to use their expanded surveillance powers to hunt political enemies? White Collar Crime - Yahoo! Voices - voices.yahoo.com

    This is my point. The minute you give the State more power, that power can be used by incompetent and corrupt bureaucrats from both sides.
     
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    And how could we have done anything different ? I certainly didn't cede any of my freedoms to the government. Did you ? and if so, how?
     
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    'Think Critically' spews platitudes without giving them a lot of critical thought.
     

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