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Most churches and spiritual communties are sources of good. Some are not. Discuss.
The so-called "Most churches" are apostate hippie - dippie communists who do not fight for The Bible Teaching. The True Christians separate themselves from the World, that's normal.
The True Christians are not of this word!
Acts 29 Review: Christians are not of this World
Colossians 2:8 King James Version (KJV)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
There are a WIDE variety of Christians and EACH claims to be the "True Christian".
So you believe that the earth and universe were created in six days by an imortal god about 6,000 years ago. You believe that two naked teens in a garden with a snake and an apple tree determined the eternal fate of mankind. You believe that dinosaurs and mankind inhabited the planet at the same time.
I feel sorry for you.
Don't waste your time attempting to dub me with your small minded bullshit. Some things are too sacred and necessarily complex to keep the small minded underfoot until they choose to be otherwise.
I do not answer to you and will not explain to you what my personal views are until you make a sincere attempt to not be so self-righteously superior. For as far as I can see... we are all posting on the same board... that must be leveling to your ego according to your dismissive posting toward others.
LOL...because the sheep herders and you said so. What else do you think those ancient sheep herders might do on a cold night? LMAO!!
Is your God, a God of fear, or love?
ROFLMAOWTFBBQ!!1!!!!!11!!!!So you believe that the earth and universe were created in six days by an imortal god about 6,000 years ago. You believe that two naked teens in a garden with a snake and an apple tree determined the eternal fate of mankind. You believe that dinosaurs and mankind inhabited the planet at the same time.
I feel sorry for you.
Don't waste your time attempting to dub me with your small minded bullshit. Some things are too sacred and necessarily complex to keep the small minded underfoot until they choose to be otherwise.
I do not answer to you and will not explain to you what my personal views are until you make a sincere attempt to not be so self-righteously superior. For as far as I can see... we are all posting on the same board... that must be leveling to your ego according to your dismissive posting toward others.
LOL...because the sheep herders and you said so. What else do you think those ancient sheep herders might do on a cold night? LMAO!!
Is your God, a God of fear, or love?
Matthew 16:18 καγὼ δέ σοι λέγω ὅτι σὺ εἶ Πέτρος καὶ ἐπὶ ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ οἰκοδομήσω μου τὴν ἐκκλησίαν καὶ πύλαι ᾅδου οὐ κατισχύσουσιν αὐτῆς. (
And I say also unto thee That thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.)
Jesus said to Peter that it was upon him to lay the foundation of what Jesus was preaching, salvation. It was not meant as a commandment to build a physical church or denomination but to spread the WORD among the Gentiles and the Jews.
Matthew 16:18 καγὼ δέ σοι λέγω ὅτι σὺ εἶ Πέτρος καὶ ἐπὶ ταύτῃ τῇ πέτρᾳ οἰκοδομήσω μου τὴν ἐκκλησίαν καὶ πύλαι ᾅδου οὐ κατισχύσουσιν αὐτῆς. (
And I say also unto thee That thou art Peter and upon this rock I will build my church and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.)
Jesus said to Peter that it was upon him to lay the foundation of what Jesus was preaching, salvation. It was not meant as a commandment to build a physical church or denomination but to spread the WORD among the Gentiles and the Jews.
Only KJV is a True Translation of the Holy Bible. Do not forget that in Greek there are a big lot of Translations the Old Greek Language.Therefore your statement is wrong.
Christians need a Church.
Matthew 16:18
King James Version (KJV)
And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
All Christians Shall go to Church!
Otherwise Hell will swallow them.
CHURCH - Why should Christians go to church? How important is it?
Is your God, a God of fear, or love?
Most churches and spiritual communties are sources of good. Some are not. Discuss.
The so-called "Most churches" are apostate hippie - dippie communists who do not fight for The Bible Teaching. The True Christians separate themselves from the World, that's normal.
The True Christians are not of this word!
Acts 29 Review: Christians are not of this World
Colossians 2:8 King James Version (KJV)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
There are a WIDE variety of Christians and EACH claims to be the "True Christian".
The so-called "Most churches" are apostate hippie - dippie communists who do not fight for The Bible Teaching. The True Christians separate themselves from the World, that's normal.
The True Christians are not of this word!
Acts 29 Review: Christians are not of this World
Colossians 2:8 King James Version (KJV)
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
There are a WIDE variety of Christians and EACH claims to be the "True Christian".
It's all ego. We are all related. We each have a Relationship with our Maker. The best we can do is remind each other of that.
why don't you start a thread that speaks of the abuse Islam doles out ??"Spiritual abuse can take place in the context of doctrinally sound, Bible preaching, fundamental, conservative Christianity. All that is needed for abuse is a pastor accountable to no one and therefore beyond confrontation.
The congregation's social characteristics provide danger signals as well. Membership of authoritarian churches is frequently comprised of young, spiritually immature Christians.
Another sign of impending trouble in a church is an obsession with discipline and excommunication. Beware of churches that warn of certain doom if you leave their 'covering,' or if you 'break covenant.'
A fourth sign of aberrance in a church is when the church encourages complete isolation or strong distancing of it's membership from family and friends not involved in the group.
Another sign of abusive behavior in a church is it's tendency towards isolation from other churches. Beware of the church,where outside speakers are consistently denied access to the pulpit, and where other Christian churches are regularly denounced, belittled or ridiculed.
How To Spot Religious Abuse
Most churches and spiritual communties are sources of good. Some are not. Discuss.....libbs like you will put down Christianity all the time but will rarely if ever speak about the evils of Islam.....why is that??
To kill religion is to kill the psyche of man.
And this mans became liberals.
why don't you start a thread that speaks of the abuse Islam doles out ??"Spiritual abuse can take place in the context of doctrinally sound, Bible preaching, fundamental, conservative Christianity. All that is needed for abuse is a pastor accountable to no one and therefore beyond confrontation.
The congregation's social characteristics provide danger signals as well. Membership of authoritarian churches is frequently comprised of young, spiritually immature Christians.
Another sign of impending trouble in a church is an obsession with discipline and excommunication. Beware of churches that warn of certain doom if you leave their 'covering,' or if you 'break covenant.'
A fourth sign of aberrance in a church is when the church encourages complete isolation or strong distancing of it's membership from family and friends not involved in the group.
Another sign of abusive behavior in a church is it's tendency towards isolation from other churches. Beware of the church,where outside speakers are consistently denied access to the pulpit, and where other Christian churches are regularly denounced, belittled or ridiculed.
How To Spot Religious Abuse
Most churches and spiritual communties are sources of good. Some are not. Discuss.
I live in a country where I am more personally familiar with religious abuse from Christians.
It is not the teachings of Christ that are abusive, it is how some church doctrines work against families who are abusive.
There are a WIDE variety of Christians and EACH claims to be the "True Christian".
It's all ego. We are all related. We each have a Relationship with our Maker. The best we can do is remind each other of that.
The best way is to repent sins, than to read the Holy Bible (KJV), than to go to a True Church.And mostly important is to ask God for forgiveness.
Religion is ancient and ignorant. It is a crutch for those who cannot accept the inevitable...death.
'Religion' may very well be ancient and, sadly, many who claim to be religious have little clue about spirituality, which is ignorant of them... However, MANY things within our lives prepare us toward our death and religion does not have to be a negative report or experience... it is as it is made.
I am amazed at how many choose to be deviantly evil and use it to move 'us' backward in such a way as to be unproductive. There is a necessary level of backward understanding BUT for it to become unproductive and stagnant is NOT what I have gathered from my beloved Christian bible.
What happens in most religion is that the heart of the practitioner is revealed within his/her service. This is what either makes or breaks the push/pull and manipulative forces at work. It is, in all logic and reason, completely impossible to do away with every shred of religion because every bit of our ways in living, from our traditions to our spontaneity is evidence of the legion(s) in which we represent just by our mere existence.
To kill religion is to kill the psyche of man. The key to better defining religion is to realign the psyche of man, accordingly. Defining abuse may be as much in the eye of the weakest leak as beauty is it's beholder.
So you believe that the earth and universe were created in six days by an imortal god about 6,000 years ago. You believe that two naked teens in a garden with a snake and an apple tree determined the eternal fate of mankind. You believe that dinosaurs and mankind inhabited the planet at the same time.
I feel sorry for you.
It's all ego. We are all related. We each have a Relationship with our Maker. The best we can do is remind each other of that.
The best way is to repent sins, than to read the Holy Bible (KJV), than to go to a True Church.And mostly important is to ask God for forgiveness.
Pray for Sincerity of Heart and Clarity of Purpose. It is enough to align with the Forces of Creation, and not add to the problem. God speaks well enough for Himself, without us screwing up in interpreting for others. He reaches Each and Every one of us on His Terms, how do you add to that? Why add to that? Seek Communion of Spirit first, rather than blindly lead astray. Right? Be a Leader through Example. We commune with God through Conscience, think Holy Ghost, the Paraclete. God first in all things. Scripture is a Tool, used both in Righteousness and Unrighteousness. Our Faith, in the end is beyond Reason and Comprehension, both limited, and subject to snare and pitfall, otherwise it would not be Faith in God, but in our own limited perception.
'Religion' may very well be ancient and, sadly, many who claim to be religious have little clue about spirituality, which is ignorant of them... However, MANY things within our lives prepare us toward our death and religion does not have to be a negative report or experience... it is as it is made.
I am amazed at how many choose to be deviantly evil and use it to move 'us' backward in such a way as to be unproductive. There is a necessary level of backward understanding BUT for it to become unproductive and stagnant is NOT what I have gathered from my beloved Christian bible.
What happens in most religion is that the heart of the practitioner is revealed within his/her service. This is what either makes or breaks the push/pull and manipulative forces at work. It is, in all logic and reason, completely impossible to do away with every shred of religion because every bit of our ways in living, from our traditions to our spontaneity is evidence of the legion(s) in which we represent just by our mere existence.
To kill religion is to kill the psyche of man. The key to better defining religion is to realign the psyche of man, accordingly. Defining abuse may be as much in the eye of the weakest leak as beauty is it's beholder.
So you believe that the earth and universe were created in six days by an imortal god about 6,000 years ago. You believe that two naked teens in a garden with a snake and an apple tree determined the eternal fate of mankind. You believe that dinosaurs and mankind inhabited the planet at the same time.
I feel sorry for you.
Yes, I believe because:
2 Peter 3:8 King James Version (KJV)
But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
