Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

[Bob Blaylock]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

Indeed, the OP seems to want a religion that puts the folly of mortal man above the wisdom and authority of God.

 

[Dajjal]

Daniel Dennett annoys the hell out of me. He had the gall to write a book called consciousness explained without explaining anything. He just skips over Descartes point that the mind is an un-extended thinking thing but the body is an extended unthinking thing. Hence the concept of dualism of which I am an advocate. As for theists they fall down because they stick to outdated religious doctrines. Myself I am a deist who believes God is the first cause of creation, and he set the laws of physics into motion as a perfect plan to allow us to evolve by personal experience. I think there is more truth in eastern religions than in the Abrahamic religions. But all religions are bound to fail to get a handle on an infinite divine mind.

And you come to this conclusion with a lack of evidence. How wise is that? To assume a God created the universe without any facts or evidence verifying this this not even a theory. God is just a hypothesis. Do you get that? And what's the purpose? The universe is 14 billion years old and has less than 10 billion years to go. Everything dies including you. No soul moves on afterward

The evidence I have comes from thirty years of attending spiritualist churches. In the first two years I came to believe that mediums were mostly doing what they said they were doing, and talking to the spirits of the dead.
After that I studied the teachings of several trance mediums and got an over view of the mystery's of life.
I came to believe there is a God who is a vast formless mind and he is the source of creation. We are a small part of the godhead, and we are sent out on a long journey of self realization over many incarnations. We reincarnate of many different planets in the course of our evolution, until reaching a state of grace, or enlightenment. After which we continue to grow as immortal beings in higher realms.

 

[sealybobo]

Daniel Dennett annoys the hell out of me. He had the gall to write a book called consciousness explained without explaining anything. He just skips over Descartes point that the mind is an un-extended thinking thing but the body is an extended unthinking thing. Hence the concept of dualism of which I am an advocate. As for theists they fall down because they stick to outdated religious doctrines. Myself I am a deist who believes God is the first cause of creation, and he set the laws of physics into motion as a perfect plan to allow us to evolve by personal experience. I think there is more truth in eastern religions than in the Abrahamic religions. But all religions are bound to fail to get a handle on an infinite divine mind.

And you come to this conclusion with a lack of evidence. How wise is that? To assume a God created the universe without any facts or evidence verifying this this not even a theory. God is just a hypothesis. Do you get that? And what's the purpose? The universe is 14 billion years old and has less than 10 billion years to go. Everything dies including you. No soul moves on afterward

The evidence I have comes from thirty years of attending spiritualist churches. In the first two years I came to believe that mediums were mostly doing what they said they were doing, and talking to the spirits of the dead.
After that I studied the teachings of several trance mediums and got an over view of the mystery's of life.
I came to believe there is a God who is a vast formless mind and he is the source of creation. We are a small part of the godhead, and we are sent out on a long journey of self realization over many incarnations. We reincarnate of many different planets in the course of our evolution, until reaching a state of grace, or enlightenment. After which we continue to grow as immortal beings in higher realms.

What evidence do you have? You listened to to the rantings of a bunch of spiritualists.

Tell me some of the evidence you gathered for example, that reincarnation is real.

 

[sealybobo]

Daniel Dennett annoys the hell out of me. He had the gall to write a book called consciousness explained without explaining anything. He just skips over Descartes point that the mind is an un-extended thinking thing but the body is an extended unthinking thing. Hence the concept of dualism of which I am an advocate. As for theists they fall down because they stick to outdated religious doctrines. Myself I am a deist who believes God is the first cause of creation, and he set the laws of physics into motion as a perfect plan to allow us to evolve by personal experience. I think there is more truth in eastern religions than in the Abrahamic religions. But all religions are bound to fail to get a handle on an infinite divine mind.

And you come to this conclusion with a lack of evidence. How wise is that? To assume a God created the universe without any facts or evidence verifying this this not even a theory. God is just a hypothesis. Do you get that? And what's the purpose? The universe is 14 billion years old and has less than 10 billion years to go. Everything dies including you. No soul moves on afterward

The evidence I have comes from thirty years of attending spiritualist churches. In the first two years I came to believe that mediums were mostly doing what they said they were doing, and talking to the spirits of the dead.
After that I studied the teachings of several trance mediums and got an over view of the mystery's of life.
I came to believe there is a God who is a vast formless mind and he is the source of creation. We are a small part of the godhead, and we are sent out on a long journey of self realization over many incarnations. We reincarnate of many different planets in the course of our evolution, until reaching a state of grace, or enlightenment. After which we continue to grow as immortal beings in higher realms.

The evidence Muslims have their religion is real is 30 years of being brainwashed too.

Same with Christians Mormons Jews jehovas and every other cult.

I love it. You found the one true religion. So does everyone who discovers any religion.

 

[danielpalos]

Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

My mind set is close to Daniel Dennett as far as what religious people / theist should become after they grow up.

Personally, I like a lot of the social functions and appeasement of our need for fellowship, hivishness and tribalism offered by religious institutions.



So I do not want to kill all religions but just encourage them to be more moral, tolerant and give equality to women and gays.

Having said the above, People and recent trends to read scriptures literally have cause many to forget that religions were invented as theatre and myth and were never meant to be read or taken literally. They were designed to seek God, not to find one.

Bill Moyers Journal . Watch Listen PBS

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

As you can see from the following, religions and temples have always been about entertainment and fellowship.



If Christianity and Islam could return to the old way of seeking God instead of idol worshiping false Gods, perhaps jihadists and other fundamental believers might chill and get along the way they have at some points in our past history.

Religions are fairy tales for adults. If this is a truth, we should encourage Christianity and Islam as well as all other religions to grow up and return to their better past of seeking God instead of idol worshiping Yahweh and Allah. Both of them are mythical and manmade Gods.

To just leave Christians and Muslim idol worshipers to continue as is means that we may never rid ourselves of their institutionalized homophobia and misogyny. The kind and moral thing to do is to try to correct our immoral religious friends to recognize their myths as fairy tales for adults. Do you agree?

Regards
DL

I believe the religious should implement hypocrites anonymous meetings to complement drug related meetings.

 

[AVG-JOE]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

Intended by whom, exactly?

Intended is a strong word. In the context above it implies a general agreement where none exists.

There is nothing wrong with hanging out for what ever reason brings a crowd - the secret to getting to the next level is for Monkeys to lose the arrogance.

Beliefs are like eyebrows... every Monkey has a set, and no two sets are identical.

First generation to understand the right of every Monkey to be wrong regarding Monkey beliefs gets to watch their grandchildren reach for the stars.

I truly believe that.​

 

[sealybobo]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

Intended by whom, exactly?

Intended is a strong word. In the context above it implies a general agreement where none exists.

There is nothing wrong with hanging out for what ever reason brings a crowd - the secret to getting to the next level is for Monkeys to lose the arrogance.

Beliefs are like eyebrows... every Monkey has a set, and no two sets are identical.

First generation to understand the right of every Monkey to be wrong regarding Monkey beliefs gets to watch their grandchildren reach for the stars.

I truly believe that.​

Beliefs shouldn't be presented as facts.

Debating God was fun until one guy came down from a mountain lying saying he saw God and f'd it all up.

 

[AVG-JOE]

Some believe in science and deny religion. Some believe in religion and deny science. Some are smarter than either of those.

Some are smarter than both. ​

 

[AVG-JOE]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

Intended by whom, exactly?

Intended is a strong word. In the context above it implies a general agreement where none exists.

There is nothing wrong with hanging out for what ever reason brings a crowd - the secret to getting to the next level is for Monkeys to lose the arrogance.

Beliefs are like eyebrows... every Monkey has a set, and no two sets are identical.

First generation to understand the right of every Monkey to be wrong regarding Monkey beliefs gets to watch their grandchildren reach for the stars.

I truly believe that.​

Beliefs shouldn't be presented as facts.

Debating God was fun until one guy came down from a mountain lying saying he saw God and f'd it all up.

Any attempt to regulate how beliefs are presented flies in the face of speech freedom. And yes, if the price of free speech involves misinformation being passed along to the next generation, so be it.

The secret to success for our progressive society remains education, not regulation.

 

[sealybobo]

SO! Christians are immoral and bad. Homosexuals are pure and good and care only for the eternal welfare of everyone they meet...
Christians believe fairy tails and spread lies. Atheists can fix society and make everything perfect --- a heaven on earth, if only all the Christians were herded together and re-educated to modern governmental standards or disposed of...

There exist wide differences between various religions, and atheism is just another system of beliefs. The trouble we have been facing for about 50 years is that atheism has educational access in most schools without confrontation or scrutiny.

Sorry, but gay behavior does nothing to improve society. Homosexuality promotes hedonism and self-awareness as its goal. Homosexual behavior is in no way equal to a moral heterosexual behavior pattern. Within moral and godly heterosexual behavior, procreation and child rearing is in the forefront. And the protection of children becomes a deep seated emotional need.

The driving force of homosexuality is the desire for intimate relationships. Children while enjoyed, are not either the goal of such relationships nor considered more important than the need to fulfill an emotional void. The thought of celibacy among homosexuals primarily means giving up sexual pleasure with little if any consideration for procreation.

The Christian reviews his desires, and what he thinks he needs in terms of what God provides and expects. Atheists ultimately care only for what a desire will gain him. A lack of spirituality brings with it temper tantrums when personal gratification is not forthcoming quick enough.

We are overpopulated. What makes you think you're doing us a favor when you breed? Maybe gay is natures was of dealing with a parasite? Yes humans are parasites, not godly. Anyone can screw. You like girls? Great.

No one said gays good Christians bad. But you vs gays? They're better than people like you for sure

 

[Wyatt earp]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

All religions are man made

How do you know?

Do you have a science experiment to back up your claim?

 

[AVG-JOE]

You found the one true religion. So does everyone who discovers any religion.

That 'bout sums it up.​

 

[Wyatt earp]

SO! Christians are immoral and bad. Homosexuals are pure and good and care only for the eternal welfare of everyone they meet...
Christians believe fairy tails and spread lies. Atheists can fix society and make everything perfect --- a heaven on earth, if only all the Christians were herded together and re-educated to modern governmental standards or disposed of...

There exist wide differences between various religions, and atheism is just another system of beliefs. The trouble we have been facing for about 50 years is that atheism has educational access in most schools without confrontation or scrutiny.

Sorry, but gay behavior does nothing to improve society. Homosexuality promotes hedonism and self-awareness as its goal. Homosexual behavior is in no way equal to a moral heterosexual behavior pattern. Within moral and godly heterosexual behavior, procreation and child rearing is in the forefront. And the protection of children becomes a deep seated emotional need.

The driving force of homosexuality is the desire for intimate relationships. Children while enjoyed, are not either the goal of such relationships nor considered more important than the need to fulfill an emotional void. The thought of celibacy among homosexuals primarily means giving up sexual pleasure with little if any consideration for procreation.

The Christian reviews his desires, and what he thinks he needs in terms of what God provides and expects. Atheists ultimately care only for what a desire will gain him. A lack of spirituality brings with it temper tantrums when personal gratification is not forthcoming quick enough.

We are overpopulated. What makes you think you're doing us a favor when you breed? Maybe gay is natures was of dealing with a parasite? Yes humans are parasites, not godly. Anyone can screw. You like girls? Great.

No one said gays good Christians bad. But you vs gays? They're better than people like you for sure

I always am intrigued about thousands and thousands of miles separate people , yet at the same time they build pyramids in Egypt and south America around the same time..

Why?

The Koran and bible have so many similarity's

 

[dilloduck]

Religions are fairy tales for adults. Should we encourage them to grow up?

My mind set is close to Daniel Dennett as far as what religious people / theist should become after they grow up.

Personally, I like a lot of the social functions and appeasement of our need for fellowship, hivishness and tribalism offered by religious institutions.



So I do not want to kill all religions but just encourage them to be more moral, tolerant and give equality to women and gays.

Having said the above, People and recent trends to read scriptures literally have cause many to forget that religions were invented as theatre and myth and were never meant to be read or taken literally. They were designed to seek God, not to find one.

Bill Moyers Journal . Watch Listen PBS

Rabbi Hillel, the older contemporary of Jesus, said that when asked to sum up the whole of Jewish teaching, while he stood on one leg, said, "The Golden Rule. That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the Torah. And everything else is only commentary. Now, go and study it."

Please listen as to what is said about literal reading.

"Origen, the great second or third century Greek commentator on the Bible said that it is absolutely impossible to take these texts literally. You simply cannot do so. And he said, "God has put these sort of conundrums and paradoxes in so that we are forced to seek a deeper meaning."

As you can see from the following, religions and temples have always been about entertainment and fellowship.



If Christianity and Islam could return to the old way of seeking God instead of idol worshiping false Gods, perhaps jihadists and other fundamental believers might chill and get along the way they have at some points in our past history.

Religions are fairy tales for adults. If this is a truth, we should encourage Christianity and Islam as well as all other religions to grow up and return to their better past of seeking God instead of idol worshiping Yahweh and Allah. Both of them are mythical and manmade Gods.

To just leave Christians and Muslim idol worshipers to continue as is means that we may never rid ourselves of their institutionalized homophobia and misogyny. The kind and moral thing to do is to try to correct our immoral religious friends to recognize their myths as fairy tales for adults. Do you agree?

Regards
DL

You bet. The science communities fairy tales are way cooler.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

All religions are man made

How do you know?

Do you have a science experiment to back up your claim?

Yup, even their precious science can't prove it.

 

[sealybobo]

SO! Christians are immoral and bad. Homosexuals are pure and good and care only for the eternal welfare of everyone they meet...
Christians believe fairy tails and spread lies. Atheists can fix society and make everything perfect --- a heaven on earth, if only all the Christians were herded together and re-educated to modern governmental standards or disposed of...

There exist wide differences between various religions, and atheism is just another system of beliefs. The trouble we have been facing for about 50 years is that atheism has educational access in most schools without confrontation or scrutiny.

Sorry, but gay behavior does nothing to improve society. Homosexuality promotes hedonism and self-awareness as its goal. Homosexual behavior is in no way equal to a moral heterosexual behavior pattern. Within moral and godly heterosexual behavior, procreation and child rearing is in the forefront. And the protection of children becomes a deep seated emotional need.

The driving force of homosexuality is the desire for intimate relationships. Children while enjoyed, are not either the goal of such relationships nor considered more important than the need to fulfill an emotional void. The thought of celibacy among homosexuals primarily means giving up sexual pleasure with little if any consideration for procreation.

The Christian reviews his desires, and what he thinks he needs in terms of what God provides and expects. Atheists ultimately care only for what a desire will gain him. A lack of spirituality brings with it temper tantrums when personal gratification is not forthcoming quick enough.

We are overpopulated. What makes you think you're doing us a favor when you breed? Maybe gay is natures was of dealing with a parasite? Yes humans are parasites, not godly. Anyone can screw. You like girls? Great.

No one said gays good Christians bad. But you vs gays? They're better than people like you for sure

I always am intrigued about thousands and thousands of miles separate people , yet at the same time they build pyramids in Egypt and south America around the same time..

Why?

The Koran and bible have so many similarity's

Word travels fast?

I don't know. Building things is what we do and pyramid shape makes sense.

Do you think multiple tribes figured out God on their own.

 

[Wyatt earp]

SO! Christians are immoral and bad. Homosexuals are pure and good and care only for the eternal welfare of everyone they meet...
Christians believe fairy tails and spread lies. Atheists can fix society and make everything perfect --- a heaven on earth, if only all the Christians were herded together and re-educated to modern governmental standards or disposed of...

There exist wide differences between various religions, and atheism is just another system of beliefs. The trouble we have been facing for about 50 years is that atheism has educational access in most schools without confrontation or scrutiny.

Sorry, but gay behavior does nothing to improve society. Homosexuality promotes hedonism and self-awareness as its goal. Homosexual behavior is in no way equal to a moral heterosexual behavior pattern. Within moral and godly heterosexual behavior, procreation and child rearing is in the forefront. And the protection of children becomes a deep seated emotional need.

The driving force of homosexuality is the desire for intimate relationships. Children while enjoyed, are not either the goal of such relationships nor considered more important than the need to fulfill an emotional void. The thought of celibacy among homosexuals primarily means giving up sexual pleasure with little if any consideration for procreation.

The Christian reviews his desires, and what he thinks he needs in terms of what God provides and expects. Atheists ultimately care only for what a desire will gain him. A lack of spirituality brings with it temper tantrums when personal gratification is not forthcoming quick enough.

We are overpopulated. What makes you think you're doing us a favor when you breed? Maybe gay is natures was of dealing with a parasite? Yes humans are parasites, not godly. Anyone can screw. You like girls? Great.

No one said gays good Christians bad. But you vs gays? They're better than people like you for sure

I always am intrigued about thousands and thousands of miles separate people , yet at the same time they build pyramids in Egypt and south America around the same time..

Why?

The Koran and bible have so many similarity's

Word travels fast?

I don't know. Building things is what we do and pyramid shape makes sense.

Do you think multiple tribes figured out God on their own.

Ok... Word travels fast?

Then how come gun powder was invented by the Chinese thousands of years before the Europeans figured it out?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Again why we're the Egyptian's building pyramids around the same time the Aztecs were?

They were separated by oceans


And why did they abandoned the practice?

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

What you want is a man made religion and that is not how it's intended.

All religions are man made

How do you know?

I'm smart

 

[AVG-JOE]

Ok... Word travels fast?

Then how come gun powder was invented by the Chinese thousands of years before the Europeans figured it out?

The Europeans didn't figure it out, they took the technology from the Chinese and, like many ideas through history, the Europeans successfully industrialized it for profit and for power.

Abortion is a good example of a technology that should be available but not industrialized. There are others.