Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

[TheProgressivePatriot]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

 

[ding]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

I'm pretty sure a couple here have already said they did.

There is no doubt that if you want to find some Christians who don't behave as Christians should all the time, that you will find them. There's a distribution for everything.

But putting that aside, who made you the arbiter of what Christians should be? Please tell me what it is you think I am doing that I shouldn't be doing as a Christian and what it is I am not doing that I should be doing as a Christian.

Just because we believe that God so loved man that he chose to be born into the world to testify to the truth and reconcile justice with mercy (that's what defines Christians) doesn't mean we shouldn't participate in our secular society. So just as your vote is informed by your values and principles it is no different for Christians.

 

[GreatestIam]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

Just your evil brain killing type, if we let you get to our children.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

Correct.

Gnostic Christians want Christians to grow the moral balls that it takes to recognize that Yahweh belongs in hell and that the Gnostic Christians were always correct in condemning his imaginary ass to his own imaginary hell.

Pardon the plug.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

Just your evil brain killing type, if we let you get to our children.

Regards
DL

I see. What do you propose to do about it?

 

[ding]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

Correct.

Gnostic Christians want Christians to grow the moral balls that it takes to recognize that Yahweh belongs in hell and that the Gnostic Christians were always correct in condemning his imaginary ass to his own imaginary hell.

Pardon the plug.

Regards
DL

Well that sounds different than what you just told me. This sounds like all worship of Yahweh should be banned.

 

[GreatestIam]

Just because we believe that God so loved man that he chose to be born into the world to testify to the truth and reconcile justice with mercy (that's what defines Christians) doesn't mean we shouldn't participate in our secular society. So just as your vote is informed by your values and principles it is no different for Christians.

For Yahweh so hated the world that he condemned us all for Adam's sin, that Christians sing is a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh's plan.

Only a fool would think that Yahweh, the mass murdering god, loves man

Let's not be misogynous like Christians are and include women, who Yahweh really seems to hate.

Regards
DL

 

[GreatestIam]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

Just your evil brain killing type, if we let you get to our children.

Regards
DL

I see. What do you propose to do about it?

The usual.

Generally that is ignoring your trolling.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

Just because we believe that God so loved man that he chose to be born into the world to testify to the truth and reconcile justice with mercy (that's what defines Christians) doesn't mean we shouldn't participate in our secular society. So just as your vote is informed by your values and principles it is no different for Christians.

For Yahweh so hated the world that he condemned us all for Adam's sin, that Christians sing is a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh's plan.

Only a fool would think that Yahweh, the mass murdering god, loves man

Let's not be misogynous like Christians are and include women, who Yahweh really seems to hate.

Regards
DL

You don't sound very intelligent.

 

[GreatestIam]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

Correct.

Gnostic Christians want Christians to grow the moral balls that it takes to recognize that Yahweh belongs in hell and that the Gnostic Christians were always correct in condemning his imaginary ass to his own imaginary hell.

Pardon the plug.

Regards
DL

Well that sounds different than what you just told me. This sounds like all worship of Yahweh should be banned.

You do not know how to listen.

That is not a part of what you do.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

Just your evil brain killing type, if we let you get to our children.

Regards
DL

I see. What do you propose to do about it?

The usual.

Generally that is ignoring your trolling.

Regards
DL

That's it. Seems like a pussy move to me. You should consider manning up and doing something about it like the Gnostic Christians did. Burn a few churches, torture a couple of Christians. Stuff like that.

 

[ding]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

Correct.

Gnostic Christians want Christians to grow the moral balls that it takes to recognize that Yahweh belongs in hell and that the Gnostic Christians were always correct in condemning his imaginary ass to his own imaginary hell.

Pardon the plug.

Regards
DL

Well that sounds different than what you just told me. This sounds like all worship of Yahweh should be banned.

You do not know how to listen.

That is not a part of what you do.

Regards
DL

No. I listened extremely well. Your message changed.

But you'll never do anything about it besides talk tough.

 

[GreatestIam]

Just because we believe that God so loved man that he chose to be born into the world to testify to the truth and reconcile justice with mercy (that's what defines Christians) doesn't mean we shouldn't participate in our secular society. So just as your vote is informed by your values and principles it is no different for Christians.

For Yahweh so hated the world that he condemned us all for Adam's sin, that Christians sing is a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh's plan.

Only a fool would think that Yahweh, the mass murdering god, loves man

Let's not be misogynous like Christians are and include women, who Yahweh really seems to hate.

Regards
DL

I guess I'm a fool then. You sound super intelligent. What do you do for a living?

Technical Sales Rep. Retired.

Regards
DL

 

[ding]

Just because we believe that God so loved man that he chose to be born into the world to testify to the truth and reconcile justice with mercy (that's what defines Christians) doesn't mean we shouldn't participate in our secular society. So just as your vote is informed by your values and principles it is no different for Christians.

For Yahweh so hated the world that he condemned us all for Adam's sin, that Christians sing is a happy fault and necessary to Yahweh's plan.

Only a fool would think that Yahweh, the mass murdering god, loves man

Let's not be misogynous like Christians are and include women, who Yahweh really seems to hate.

Regards
DL

I guess I'm a fool then. You sound super intelligent. What do you do for a living?

Technical Sales Rep. Retired.

Regards
DL

Really? What did you sell?

 

[Votto]

Religions and supernatural beliefs are the enemy of world peace, as shown by 5000 years of war.

Supernatural believing faith-based religious hierarchies have been lying so much to their people that the more vulnerable of their people actually believe the --- mythical, allegorical, imaginary icons that they are persuaded,--- against all logic and reason, --- to believe in as real. That is abuse to a mind.

A mind is a person’s most treasured possession and to allow liars and con men to effect and infect so many minds, --- should be made illegal, as well as a sin, --- but of course, --- the world is not ready for a moral religious lesson.

Logic, reason, logos, intelligent thinking, --- it seems, --- are no match against the vile con men who run the religions and the mythos they and the faith poison they use to damage precious minds.

We and our ancestors have paid a high price to the religious con men that have damaged so many minds. A huge price in minds, cash as well as; world peace.

Those con men should be censored.

Religions are a good thing. They have just forgotten that they were created to produce peace.

Not the God damned God produced 5,000 years of our war filled history.

While those same religions oppressed non-believers, women and gays. As the majority, the religious also impose poverty.

The supernatural belief fostered by the mainstream, --- immoral, homophobic, and misogynous religions, --- and their con men hierarchy, --- are not a friend to peace.

They should be outlawed as soon as possible.

This would allow what Jesus preached in terms of electing a human God.

Human Gods can make peace and I suggest we elect one, as in the Roman System, democracy; to bring peace to the world that we are God damned destroying for our children.

Their precious minds are in your hands.

Logos or mythos must be chosen by all.

Peace wants Logos, not mythos, faith, or an unproven supernatural concept of any kind.

Trust the method for peace that Jesus preached. Elect a God. A man. Jesus asked his people if they had forgotten that they were Gods.

Most had, but not the Gnostics who had taught the Roman Jesus.

Be a Gnostic and recognize the evil of religions, as well as the good parts.

I would prefer to focus on the good, but my love has created a great hate for the religious con men who harm so many.

That hate forces me to call them out, even as I recognize the need for community churches. Less so now as in the past.

Our world cannot afford to lose good minds to religious faith based supernatural thinking that is helping to destroy our world.

Peace and decent morality would like to prevail.

Be decent parents and people and tell your children that there is nothing to fear from the supernatural, because there is only good, in what you can imagine somehow; even if you do not see it in your imagination immediately. Think dreams.

Minds are too precious to allow frivolous impairment with supernatural beliefs.

Save your mind by discarding faith without facts and the imaginary supernatural realm.

Please.

Regards
DL

Not religion, governments start wars. Case in point, look at the wars by atheist Marxists governments.

Governments create deadly organized and efficient wars capable of inflicting millions to die, and have done so since the beginning of time.

Had Constantine not subverted the Christian faith by pretending to be one and then conquering in the name of Christ to form his little government, Christianity would have been virtually blameless in terms of such allegations, which it was for hundreds of years prior to the heretic Constantine who continued to worship pagan gods.

 

[Correll]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Nope. Like no having any explanation for the trials and tribulations of a very hard life, and thus feeling completely helpless in the face of random death.

 

[Correll]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

No one want's to abolish Christianity. To suggest that is just an expression of some paranoid bullshit. What many want is for Christianity to actually reflect and promote the actual values that Christ extoled instead of the politicized and controlling version of Christianity that is promoted by Republicans and the Evangelicals today.

Bullshit.

 

[Correll]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

I think you are underestimating how scary and unknown the world was to our ancestors. It was not just the afterlife that was a mystery to them, but much of the natural world too.


What was the sun? What was the Moon? What was lightening? When was it going to rain? How bad is the winter going to be? Why is there no food? Why did that baby just die?


If there was a tribe or group that just decided to accept that they had no idea what was going on, and to just accept the terror and complete lack of control that came with that,


they died out and were replaced by groups with better coping mechanisms.

Like inquisitions and jihads?

Regards
DL

Would you like to abolish Christianity? It's ok to say yes. Don't be afraid.

Just your evil brain killing type, if we let you get to our children.

Regards
DL

So, this is a partisan political thing? Not really about religion at all? You like Liberation Theology?

 

[LuckyDuck]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

There are many good reasons for the existence of religions. They are tribes and we are tribal by nature.

It is just that Christians should know better than to idolize a genocidal Yahweh.

Calling evil good is not mentally healthy.

Regards
DL

The Christians can't separate the Old Testament from the New Testament and the Old Testament was from the original Jewish religion......and of course......Yahweh.
Christians tend to be "cherry-pickers." They side with the passages from the Old Testament that they agree with and reject those that they don't.
If the Abrahamic religions had never existed, the world would have been better off.

 

[ABikerSailor]

Many people need the belief in a super-natural being to comfort them in the belief that there is no utter end to their existence.

Thanks for the well thought out reply.

I cannot agree that people need delusions to get through life. Sure, we all lie to ourselves on smaller issues, but to lie to ones self on a major mental issue, is insanity, which is why organized religions are taught in universities to be collective schizophrenia.

Science recognizes what religions are, cons, yet people do not get it, or ignore reality for the tribalism and fellowship.

Regards
DL

Well, to some degree, religions are cons, however, the original purpose came about as bands of tribes would seek answers as to what happens to those that they love, when they die. The Shamans would come up with an answer that would soothe them. Claiming an afterlife and not having to show proof helps.
Then of course, there were behavioral issues that needed to be sorted out and in antiquity, before governmental laws, there were tribal laws. As standup comedian, once said, "they had to draft something to get the men to stop humping camels." And also, stop stealing from others and killing for something they wanted.

There are many good reasons for the existence of religions. They are tribes and we are tribal by nature.

It is just that Christians should know better than to idolize a genocidal Yahweh.

Calling evil good is not mentally healthy.

Regards
DL

The Christians can't separate the Old Testament from the New Testament and the Old Testament was from the original Jewish religion......and of course......Yahweh.
Christians tend to be "cherry-pickers." They side with the passages from the Old Testament that they agree with and reject those that they don't.
If the Abrahamic religions had never existed, the world would have been better off.

Yanno..............I've always wondered how the Christians could hate the Jewish people, while still using their books and things that they said.