Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

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All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.
 
"Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values"

Yet another reason to be thankful we live in the United States, where such punitive nonsense would not be tolerated and any such measure invalidated as un-Constitutional.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.

I was thinking just the same thing today,a2c. If we're not careful, Europe is going to end up an homogenous mess more akin to the Middle East than to Europe. Regardless of all the self loathing libs, there are people who are interested in and want to see the and experience the cultures and nuances of same in Europe. If they want to experience the Middle East they should go Saudi (God help them and keep them safe, lol) :)
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.


Dutch culture was not always Dutch culture. It's been altered throughout the centuries by the many peoples that have come through who redefine what it means to be "Dutch". What is "Dutch culture"? Is it the culture of the Boors in South Africa?
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.

I was thinking just the same thing today,a2c. If we're not careful, Europe is going to end up an homogenous mess more akin to the Middle East than to Europe. Regardless of all the self loathing libs, there are people who are interested in and want to see the and experience the cultures and nuances of same in Europe. If they want to experience the Middle East they should go Saudi (God help them and keep them safe, lol) :)


Europe has been invaded many times by many peoples including Islamic cultures (Spain). Culture is not static.
 
"There exists a law, not written down anywhere, but inborn in our hearts, a law which comes to us not by training or custom or reading, a law which has come to us not from theory but from practice, not by instruction but by natural intuition. I refer to the law which lays down that, if our lives are endangered by plots or violence or armed robbers or enemies, any and every method of protecting ourselves is morally right." - Marcus Tullius Cicero
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

If the Dutch are smart they will kick all Muslims out of their country.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.


Pity you ruined an otherwise good thread by you know, talking.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.


Dutch culture was not always Dutch culture. It's been altered throughout the centuries by the many peoples that have come through who redefine what it means to be "Dutch". What is "Dutch culture"? Is it the culture of the Boors in South Africa?


In SA in the 17th C. Netherlands and Amsterdam had little in common with SA Boers, even the language was different
 
"Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values"

Yet another reason to be thankful we live in the United States, where such punitive nonsense would not be tolerated and any such measure invalidated as un-Constitutional.



BUT.....I thought European socialist utopias like the Netherlands were exactly what libs want here???

I could see libs doing it. Sign a pledge to respect diversity. To never utter racially offensive terms. To acknowledge and condemn white privilege. Other shit too....

Yeah....libs would do it.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.
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All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.
64bd17352071efecc0727456263706a4.jpg


Exactly. Look how it worked out for the Indians.

Or are you saying that what happened to them was a good thing?
 
"Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values"

Yet another reason to be thankful we live in the United States, where such punitive nonsense would not be tolerated and any such measure invalidated as un-Constitutional.
So here we'd just follow established precedence and round 'em all up, move to some large holding pen in the boondocks, and throw away the key until it's deemed time to set them free again. Got it.
 
All non-EU newcomers to the Netherlands will now be forced to sign a declaration saying they will uphold Dutch values, or pay a fine of up to €1250 and have their residency revoked.

These values include upholding people’s freedoms, being a good neighbour and participating in society – for example, speaking Dutch. The measures are part of a harder line on immigration in the Netherlands, which Lodewijk Asscher, social affairs minister, described as the “warm heart and cool head” approach.

He wrote in a letter to Dutch MPs on Friday that the government was “committed to reducing the number of refugees” and acknowledged concerns about threats to jobs and houses, and about “which culture they bring along with them”.
Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values

Another thing that will not be reported among the socialist lovers who love to point out these countries and how their socialist policies are so good for them.

American liberals are brainwashed losers.

Tourists go to the netherland to see the country and culture, not to see a middle east culture displacing the historic one.
Hiding women, not shaking hands of insulting western behavior, replacing stores and restaurants with eastern tastes. It will have a major impact o the bottom line and impact on the ability for the country to afford to take in refugees.

You don't go to a Renascence fair to see china town.


Dutch culture was not always Dutch culture. It's been altered throughout the centuries by the many peoples that have come through who redefine what it means to be "Dutch". What is "Dutch culture"? Is it the culture of the Boors in South Africa?
It doesn't matter how much it has changed before because generally these developments have been positive ones toward more equality and tolerance. However, to defend these positive developments and the values associated with them, you cannot tolerate the intolerant. That is a very important component of tolerance. Too tolerant and you'll find yourself having your hand hacked of for stealing, or your head cut of for apostasy, or unable to practice the religion you choose and to marry whom you choose. They are probably at the beginning of a process designed to protect themselves and the existing tolerant culture from regressive influences, as well they should.
 
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"Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values"

Yet another reason to be thankful we live in the United States, where such punitive nonsense would not be tolerated and any such measure invalidated as un-Constitutional.
You aren't that far removed :)
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  4. Bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and
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    B. Perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; or
    C. Perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law.Naturalization Oath of Allegiance to the United States of America
 
"Refugees could be fined or lose residency for failing to uphold Dutch values"

Yet another reason to be thankful we live in the United States, where such punitive nonsense would not be tolerated and any such measure invalidated as un-Constitutional.

We'll get an american patriot in office and declare these "refugees" to be foreign undesirables and national security risks that pose a threat to america. Then send them back to the ME.
Simple.
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