Recess Appointments v. EOs

[Flanders]

Does anyone believe the High Court is going to take presidential power down a peg or two? Considering all of the stuff presidents pull with executive orders and bureaucracies like the EPA, Homeland Security, and so on, recess appointments amount to a drop of water in the ocean even if the SCOTUS upholds the appeals court:

In a case freighted with major constitutional implications, a federal appeals court on Friday overturned President Obama’s controversial recess appointments from last year, ruling he abused his powers and acted when the Senate was not actually in a recess.

The three-judge panel’s ruling is a major blow to Mr. Obama. The judges ruled that the appointments he made to the National Labor Relations Board are illegal, and hence the five-person board did not have a quorum to operate.

XXXXX​

“Allowing the president to define the scope of his own appointments power would eviscerate the Constitution’s separation of powers,” the judges said in their opinion.

Obama recess appointments unconstitutional
By Stephen Dinan
The Washington Times
Friday, January 25, 2013

Obama recess appointments unconstitutional - Washington Times

Go to this link to read about one of Hussein’s executive orders that was never challenged:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/216659-double-the-penalty.html

INTERPOL has been operating with diplomatic immunity since Hussein amended RR’s executive order on December 17, 2009. I doubt if one news organization knows, or cares, what INTERPOL has been up to since then; so I want to go over a few things based on what is available on the Net. The best I can do is cite a few known facts and try to interpret them. I think you’ll see that the UN spider is spinning an unbreakable web.

On May 25, 2010 Lisa P. Jackson, who is leaving the EPA, addressed an E-Waste meeting where she said:

I would especially like to thank Interpol and their Global E-Waste Crime Group for your continued efforts and partnership. I also want to thank the Environment Agency of England and Wales and the Swedish Environmental Protection Agency for your continued support.

Basel Action Network (BAN) : EPA Chief Calls for Limiting Exports of e-Waste to Developing Countries

Just who the hell was Jackson working for? For years, I’ve been saying the EPA is a UN bureaucracy. Now that the relationship between INTERPOL and the UN is becoming less obscure than it was in the past, Hussein’s reasons for inviting INTERPOL into this country are obvious. INTERPOL is here to oblige everything environmental freakazoids in organizations like Global E-Waste Crime Group want to label a crime. In fact, you are probably a criminal and don’t know it. You might even end up being tried in a UN court.

NOTE: INTERPOL already has an Environmental Crime Programme. Supposedly, it was set up to catch organized crime figures engaging in environmental crimes just as the income tax was supposed to catch wealthy crooks. In truth, the income tax punishes every American lacking a tax dollar income. The Environmental Crime Programme will end up giving the UN taxing authority over the American people.

Non-existent International law

None other than Bolivia’s Socialist president, Evo Morales, called for an International climate justice tribunal to punish environmental miscreants:

Morales asks to save Kyoto Protocol, create global climate court
Dec 9, 2010, 18:18 GMT

Morales asks to save Kyoto Protocol, create global climate court - Monsters and Critics

The United Nations arresting Americans in their own country is not possible without INTERPOL. Without INTERPOL a global climate court is as meaningless as is the rest of the UN’s judicial system —— The World Court, and its spinoffs, the International Criminal Court, special tribunals, and whatever else they get away with.

To make it all work, INTERPOL needs the authority to investigate American industries in order to charge them with an environmental crime even if a targeted company did not violate American laws. When Hussein amended President Reagan’s EO he handed INTERPOL the necessary authority.

And who will the UN’s court actually prosecute after INTERPOL makes the arrest? Answer: Every American that global government Communists want to silence:

Anti-Greens are ‘Criminals’, According to Interpol, Environmental crime is a serious and growing international problem
The UN and Interpol How the UN will gain power
By Barry Napier Wednesday, December 30, 2009

The UN and Interpol How the UN will gain power

Briefly, there is no better proof than Evo Morales that displaced Communists flocked to environmental causes after the Soviet Union imploded. Once the Communists got behind environmental scams the UN pulled out all stops. In October 2009, the UN General Assembly named Morales World Hero of Mother Earth. The “accolade” paid off when Morales came up with a new gimmick for getting to PC (population controls):

Bolivia will this month table a draft United Nations treaty giving "Mother Earth" the same rights as humans — having just passed a domestic law that does the same for bugs, trees and all other natural things in the South American country.

UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans
By Steven Edwards, Postmedia News

UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

Throughout all of the years I have been watching the UN advance its population control agenda, I have to admit I never saw insect Rights coming:

Here’s how the roadmap leading to population controls is laid out:

The earth’s Rights will become equal Rights. In order to save Mother Earth the human population will have to be reduced in order the insure the Rights of every other living thing. The justification for enforcing PC is no more complicated than that.

The scam began to take treaty form in 1992 with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). The Kyoto Protocol was adopted in 1997. So UN nut jobs like Morales only built upon a foundation that was already in place.

Involving INTERPOL adds one more step to legitimating the UN’s judicial system. Using INTERPOL, Hussein & Company can send “environmental criminals” to a UN court where a guilty verdict is assured. There is not a chance they would risk losing a case in an American court.

A little background on INTERPOL’s business

INTERPOL provides 184 member nations with information on the whereabouts of international criminals.

There are 192 UN member states. The number of countries in the world is usually put at 196. So INTERPOL is giving the same information to nearly every country in the world. Many of INTERPOL’s 184 clients are America’s enemies. It does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that an unfriendly Muslim government can warn every terrorist not on an actual battlefield to change locations before the “cops” get there. If you ask me Hussein invited the fox into the henhouse.

The United Nations and INTERPOL have grown close in recent years. INTERPOL is controlled by 13 UN member states.

NOTE: I always said that Democrats should never be allowed anywhere near America’s intelligence agencies. The United Nations without INTERPOL is dangerous enough. Hussein inviting INTERPOL into this country’s affairs confirms my distrust of Democrats. Democrats hate America’s intelligence community; ergo, bring in INTERPOL because they can be trusted. In addition: INTERPOL has the organizational skills to train the leadership in Hussein’s ragtag riffraff organizations like ACORN. I believe that is one of the reasons he amended EO 12425. INTERPOL has to have diplomatic immunity to protect itself, and protect its connection to Hussein’s promised Civilian National Security Force, from the prying eyes of the FBI and local police forces. Eric Holder is in place to see that nothing goes wrong. The question is this: Are Hussein’s people starting to look like the reincarnation of long-dead Nazis?

Just to be clear. I see Communists and Nazis as one and the same. I don’t want to fall into the trap of appearing to favor Communists because I attack Nazis. The Nazi trap has been a mainstay of the Left since the 1930s; Nazis are bad so Communists must be good.

More background info in this excerpt:

Generally, foreign military and police organizations are restricted from operating in the United States without oversight by the CIA, FBI, Departments of Defense, State, Homeland Security or though some other arrangement that makes such operations subject to U. S. authority. In 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12425 that allowed the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) to operate in the United States but generally subject to the same laws that restrict CIA, FBI and other Federal, state and local law enforcement agencies. Specifically, INTERPOL agents were not immune from being prosecuted for violating American laws.

One of those laws is 42 U.S.C. § 1983 which prohibits law enforcement authorities from violating an American's constitutionally protected rights. Presumably, that does not apply to INTERPOL as a result of this Executive Order President Obama has just signed.

The effect of Obama's amendment is to give them immunity from violating any American law. Agents of INTERPOL will now presumably have the same protection that foreign diplomats have while in this country. It is that immunity that has been used by other countries to spy on the United States. This arrangement, for example, now would make it possible for an American citizen being seized by INTERPOL agents and taken out of the country outside the reach of American courts and the rights they would enforce, most notably habeas corpus or the right for a judge to review a person's detention. The extent to which INTERPOL would be exempt from American extradition laws now becomes questionable.

Likewise, INTERPOL agents could seize property, including firearms, without search warrants and conduct other warrantless searches. They could break into homes and businesses to search and seize records without fear of prosecution, either criminally or civilly. In short, the powers that INTERPOL would have by being immune to U. S. law is virtually the same as martial law provides.

Moreover, INTERPOL's files and records are immune from U. S. court orders, including search warrants and civil subpoenas. And INTERPOL is protected from Freedom Of Information inquires from American media.

Beaufort Observer
ONLINE EDITION
NEWS & COMMENTARY
Obama gives INTERPOL immunity to operate at will in the USA.
December 28, 2009

Obama gives INTERPOL immunity to operate at will in the USA

I like to think that anyone who reads this thread will end up with a good handle on the danger Hussein brought into this country.

I don’t expect the media to run with the INTERPOL story at this late date, nor will the Democrats protect America’s independence from INTERPOL. That’s why it is so aggravating to see that crap about recess appointments getting coverage, and so little in the media about such an important betrayal.

Aside from the lack of coverage to date, I have a gnawing suspicion that INTERPOL enjoys the same respect the United Nations and the Nobel Peace Prize gets in the MSM. And just like the UN, and the Nobel Peace Prize, you never heard a bad word said about INTERPOL in any movie or TV show.

I must say that there are so many problems with INTERPOL if I had to zero in on two I would choose:

1. INTERPOL’s alliance with the United Nations.

2. INTERPOL (the UN) having the authority to label anyone a criminal when they speak out against the UN’s numerous environmental frauds.

Carry #2 to its logical conclusion and INTERPOL can declare every member of Congress an “International” criminal if they vote against Cap-And-Trade.

Finally, if the media, and the Congress, continue to ignore INTERPOL they are either blind, or in full agreement with Hussein. Hussein and INTERPOL left unchallenged is a look into a certain future. The day will come when the American people wake up in Communist chains and ask themselves “How did this happen?”

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Does anyone believe the High Court is going to take presidential power down a peg or two? Considering all of the stuff presidents pull with executive orders and bureaucracies like the EPA, Homeland Security, and so on, recess appointments amount to a drop of water in the ocean even if the SCOTUS upholds the appeals court:

...

you lost me after this.

good luck

 

[Flanders]

This is the biggest con job I’ve heard in a long time:

Corker: Court ruling could invalidate recent NLRB, consumer bureau actions - The Hill's Video​

Corker added that the court ruling “was a huge victory for anybody that believes in balance of power and the Constitution,” and called the appointments “the most abusive cases ever” of presidential overreach.

Corker: Court ruling could invalidate recent NLRB, consumer bureau actions
By Jonathan Easley - 01/27/13 10:38 AM ET

If recess appointments are truly the MOST abusive cases of presidential overreach Republicans can see the country is in more trouble than I thought.

The appeals court ruling would be less of a joke if it involved almost any bureaucracy other than the NLRB. The entire flap smells to high heaven. It all smells like a sales campaign designed to sell Hussein’s brilliance. The first step is to make conservatives feel good —— then when the High Court rules in Hussein’s favor his media stooges will bombard the airwaves with his absolute brilliance. The whole thing is a rope-a-dope setup.

How do I know how the High Court will rule? That easy. The four known liberals who will support everything Hussein does will be joined by John Roberts who will never vote to diminish presidential power. I’m not too sure about the other four either.

Incidentally, what happens if the High Court does not take the case? Will the three judges from the appeals court go to Hussein’s attorney general for help? Will they go to Hussein’s FBI and order them to forcibly remove the “unconstitutional” appointees? Will they order Hussein to order his appointees to comply?

 

[George Costanza]

Does anyone believe the High Court is going to take presidential power down a peg or two? Considering all of the stuff presidents pull with executive orders and bureaucracies like the EPA, Homeland Security, and so on, recess appointments amount to a drop of water in the ocean even if the SCOTUS upholds the appeals court:

In a case freighted with major constitutional implications, a federal appeals court on Friday overturned President Obama’s controversial recess appointments from last year, ruling he abused his powers and acted when the Senate was not actually in a recess.

The three-judge panel’s ruling is a major blow to Mr. Obama. The judges ruled that the appointments he made to the National Labor Relations Board are illegal, and hence the five-person board did not have a quorum to operate.

XXXXX​

“Allowing the president to define the scope of his own appointments power would eviscerate the Constitution’s separation of powers,” the judges said in their opinion.

Obama recess appointments unconstitutional
By Stephen Dinan
The Washington Times
Friday, January 25, 2013

Obama recess appointments unconstitutional - Washington Times

Go to this link to read about one of Hussein’s executive orders that was never challenged:

http://www.usmessageboard.com/general-global-topics/216659-double-the-penalty.html

INTERPOL has been operating with diplomatic immunity since Hussein amended RR’s executive order on December 17, 2009. I doubt if one news organization knows, or cares, what INTERPOL has been up to since then; so I want to go over a few things based on what is available on the Net. The best I can do is cite a few known facts and try to interpret them. I think you’ll see that the UN spider is spinning an unbreakable web.

On May 25, 2010 Lisa P. Jackson, who is leaving the EPA, addressed an E-Waste meeting where she said:



Just who the hell was Jackson working for? For years, I’ve been saying the EPA is a UN bureaucracy. Now that the relationship between INTERPOL and the UN is becoming less obscure than it was in the past, Hussein’s reasons for inviting INTERPOL into this country are obvious. INTERPOL is here to oblige everything environmental freakazoids in organizations like Global E-Waste Crime Group want to label a crime. In fact, you are probably a criminal and don’t know it. You might even end up being tried in a UN court.

NOTE: INTERPOL already has an Environmental Crime Programme. Supposedly, it was set up to catch organized crime figures engaging in environmental crimes just as the income tax was supposed to catch wealthy crooks. In truth, the income tax punishes every American lacking a tax dollar income. The Environmental Crime Programme will end up giving the UN taxing authority over the American people.

Non-existent International law

None other than Bolivia’s Socialist president, Evo Morales, called for an International climate justice tribunal to punish environmental miscreants:



The United Nations arresting Americans in their own country is not possible without INTERPOL. Without INTERPOL a global climate court is as meaningless as is the rest of the UN’s judicial system —— The World Court, and its spinoffs, the International Criminal Court, special tribunals, and whatever else they get away with.

To make it all work, INTERPOL needs the authority to investigate American industries in order to charge them with an environmental crime even if a targeted company did not violate American laws. When Hussein amended President Reagan’s EO he handed INTERPOL the necessary authority.

And who will the UN’s court actually prosecute after INTERPOL makes the arrest? Answer: Every American that global government Communists want to silence:



Briefly, there is no better proof than Evo Morales that displaced Communists flocked to environmental causes after the Soviet Union imploded. Once the Communists got behind environmental scams the UN pulled out all stops. In October 2009, the UN General Assembly named Morales World Hero of Mother Earth. The “accolade” paid off when Morales came up with a new gimmick for getting to PC (population controls):

Bolivia will this month table a draft United Nations treaty giving "Mother Earth" the same rights as humans — having just passed a domestic law that does the same for bugs, trees and all other natural things in the South American country.

UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans
By Steven Edwards, Postmedia News

UN document would give 'Mother Earth' same rights as humans

Throughout all of the years I have been watching the UN advance its population control agenda, I have to admit I never saw insect Rights coming:

Here’s how the roadmap leading to population controls is laid out:

The earth’s Rights will become equal Rights. In order to save Mother Earth the human population will have to be reduced in order the insure the Rights of every other living thing. The justification for enforcing PC is no more complicated than that.

The scam began to take treaty form in 1992 with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC). The Kyoto Protocol was adopted in 1997. So UN nut jobs like Morales only built upon a foundation that was already in place.

Involving INTERPOL adds one more step to legitimating the UN’s judicial system. Using INTERPOL, Hussein & Company can send “environmental criminals” to a UN court where a guilty verdict is assured. There is not a chance they would risk losing a case in an American court.

A little background on INTERPOL’s business

INTERPOL provides 184 member nations with information on the whereabouts of international criminals.

There are 192 UN member states. The number of countries in the world is usually put at 196. So INTERPOL is giving the same information to nearly every country in the world. Many of INTERPOL’s 184 clients are America’s enemies. It does not take Sherlock Holmes to figure out that an unfriendly Muslim government can warn every terrorist not on an actual battlefield to change locations before the “cops” get there. If you ask me Hussein invited the fox into the henhouse.

The United Nations and INTERPOL have grown close in recent years. INTERPOL is controlled by 13 UN member states.

NOTE: I always said that Democrats should never be allowed anywhere near America’s intelligence agencies. The United Nations without INTERPOL is dangerous enough. Hussein inviting INTERPOL into this country’s affairs confirms my distrust of Democrats. Democrats hate America’s intelligence community; ergo, bring in INTERPOL because they can be trusted. In addition: INTERPOL has the organizational skills to train the leadership in Hussein’s ragtag riffraff organizations like ACORN. I believe that is one of the reasons he amended EO 12425. INTERPOL has to have diplomatic immunity to protect itself, and protect its connection to Hussein’s promised Civilian National Security Force, from the prying eyes of the FBI and local police forces. Eric Holder is in place to see that nothing goes wrong. The question is this: Are Hussein’s people starting to look like the reincarnation of long-dead Nazis?

Just to be clear. I see Communists and Nazis as one and the same. I don’t want to fall into the trap of appearing to favor Communists because I attack Nazis. The Nazi trap has been a mainstay of the Left since the 1930s; Nazis are bad so Communists must be good.

More background info in this excerpt:

Generally, foreign military and police organizations are restricted from operating in the United States without oversight by the CIA, FBI, Departments of Defense, State, Homeland Security or though some other arrangement that makes such operations subject to U. S. authority. In 1983, President Ronald Reagan signed Executive Order 12425 that allowed the International Criminal Police Organization (INTERPOL) to operate in the United States but generally subject to the same laws that restrict CIA, FBI and other Federal, state and local law enforcement agencies. Specifically, INTERPOL agents were not immune from being prosecuted for violating American laws.

One of those laws is 42 U.S.C. § 1983 which prohibits law enforcement authorities from violating an American's constitutionally protected rights. Presumably, that does not apply to INTERPOL as a result of this Executive Order President Obama has just signed.

The effect of Obama's amendment is to give them immunity from violating any American law. Agents of INTERPOL will now presumably have the same protection that foreign diplomats have while in this country. It is that immunity that has been used by other countries to spy on the United States. This arrangement, for example, now would make it possible for an American citizen being seized by INTERPOL agents and taken out of the country outside the reach of American courts and the rights they would enforce, most notably habeas corpus or the right for a judge to review a person's detention. The extent to which INTERPOL would be exempt from American extradition laws now becomes questionable.

Likewise, INTERPOL agents could seize property, including firearms, without search warrants and conduct other warrantless searches. They could break into homes and businesses to search and seize records without fear of prosecution, either criminally or civilly. In short, the powers that INTERPOL would have by being immune to U. S. law is virtually the same as martial law provides.

Moreover, INTERPOL's files and records are immune from U. S. court orders, including search warrants and civil subpoenas. And INTERPOL is protected from Freedom Of Information inquires from American media.

Beaufort Observer
ONLINE EDITION
NEWS & COMMENTARY
Obama gives INTERPOL immunity to operate at will in the USA.
December 28, 2009

Obama gives INTERPOL immunity to operate at will in the USA

I like to think that anyone who reads this thread will end up with a good handle on the danger Hussein brought into this country.

I don’t expect the media to run with the INTERPOL story at this late date, nor will the Democrats protect America’s independence from INTERPOL. That’s why it is so aggravating to see that crap about recess appointments getting coverage, and so little in the media about such an important betrayal.

Aside from the lack of coverage to date, I have a gnawing suspicion that INTERPOL enjoys the same respect the United Nations and the Nobel Peace Prize gets in the MSM. And just like the UN, and the Nobel Peace Prize, you never heard a bad word said about INTERPOL in any movie or TV show.

I must say that there are so many problems with INTERPOL if I had to zero in on two I would choose:

1. INTERPOL’s alliance with the United Nations.

2. INTERPOL (the UN) having the authority to label anyone a criminal when they speak out against the UN’s numerous environmental frauds.

Carry #2 to its logical conclusion and INTERPOL can declare every member of Congress an “International” criminal if they vote against Cap-And-Trade.

Finally, if the media, and the Congress, continue to ignore INTERPOL they are either blind, or in full agreement with Hussein. Hussein and INTERPOL left unchallenged is a look into a certain future. The day will come when the American people wake up in Communist chains and ask themselves “How did this happen?”

Brevity is the soul of wit, someone once said. I know you have a point to make and that you feel strongly about it. But I'm not going to wade through all of this. Sorry.

 

[Flanders]

George Costanza;6733061

Brevity is the soul of wit, someone once said.

To George Costanza: That someone is one of Shakespeare’s gasbags.

Hamlet: Act 2, scene 2

Polonius:

My liege, and madam, to expostulate
What majesty should be, what duty is,
What day is day, night night, and time is time,
Were nothing but to waste night, day, and time;
Therefore, since brevity is the soul of wit,
And tediousness the limbs and outward flourishes,
I will be brief. Your noble son is mad. . . .

George Costanza;6733061

I know you have a point to make and that you feel strongly about it. But I'm not going to wade through all of this. Sorry.

To George Costanza: I’m heartbroken.

 

[Procrustes Stretched]

Does anyone believe the High Court is going to take presidential power down a peg or two? Considering all of the stuff presidents pull with executive orders and bureaucracies like the EPA, Homeland Security, and so on, recess appointments amount to a drop of water in the ocean even if the SCOTUS upholds the appeals court:

...

you lost me after this.

good luck

seriously, could be an interesting thread