Really Republicans????

[Meister]

We have a social safety net for those that are truely in need.
We never used to encourage its use as being done today.

 

[OKTexas]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

Facts, those pesky little facts, may I ask where are your facts?

We didn't have a US Dept of Education untill 30+ years ago. Since then we have spent around 1.4 trillion dollars on education at a national level, and to what end? Lower test scores and higher drop out rates and biger education bureaucracy. Do you really want to continue to throw money down a proven shit hole?

Equal opportunity comes from even, fair handed, application of law, not trying to tip the scales in one direction or the other. In our nations capital today it was announced that there are going to be lower expectations for minorities in their education system, can you honestly say that is a good thing?

So why don't we get the feds out of our personal business and keep the money locally where we can do the most with it.

 

[thereisnospoon]

If you are all against redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity it is not suprising you are getting your ass kicked in the current re-election. You guys have gone so far from the mainstream that only a minority can support the current Republican Party. Even our founding fathers would not support you morons.

I take it you didn't like the answer?


LOL

It is not really a matter of like or don't like. I am just amazed the party has been so taken over the far right that this concept is considered socialism. I left the party for exactly this reason.

I am mostly amazed at the party's never ending ability to shoot themselves in their foot by taking stupid positions. This dumb attack is just another example. The Democrats are worthless but sadly the Republicans are worse.

Bullshit...You voted for Obama in 2008 because you thought it was cool to vote for the Black guy. In fact it was the white moderate suburban voter that put Obama over the top. They voted for Obama not because they are liberal in their beliefs, but because they claim to be sophisticated and intelligent. People like this tend to think very highly of themselves.
Now you claim you left the GOP. I submit you were going to vote for Obama again all along. You are simply trying to convince yourself you are making the right decision.
You are voting for yourself. You are not thinking of your country.

 

[thereisnospoon]

It is not really a matter of like or don't like. I am just amazed the party has been so taken over the far right that this concept is considered socialism. I left the party for exactly this reason.

I am mostly amazed at the party's never ending ability to shoot themselves in their foot by taking stupid positions. This dumb attack is just another example. The Democrats are worthless but sadly the Republicans are worse.

Who are you kidding?

You left because pimps like Obama promised you lots of free gubmint stuff.

Hardly.... but you and Romney keep believing anyone not supporting the Repubilican party is a lazy government freeloader.

And how did you come to that conclusion? Can you provide a quote where anyone of import has stated "anyone not supporting the Repubilican party is a lazy government freeloader".

 

[Moonglow]

I guess then that since 1975 all presidents were socialists, since Oblama is doing nothing different than all presidents since 1975.

A refundable income tax credit for low-income working taxpayers (U.S. Code, Title 26, Section 32).

The earned income credit was originally enacted in 1975, and over the years it has grown to be one of the principal antipoverty programs in the federal budget. The credit was expanded significantly by the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, and in 1998 some 18 million taxpayers were expected to claim more than $27 billion of earned income tax credits, with an average credit per taxpayer of almost $1,480 per year (U.S. Congress 1996: 809). In 1998, some families will be entitled to claim an earned income tax credit of up to $3,756 per year.

Earned Income Credit: From The Encyclopedia of Taxation and Tax Policy

 

[Ernie S.]

I guess then that since 1975 all presidents were socialists, since Oblama is doing nothing different than all presidents since 1975.

A refundable income tax credit for low-income working taxpayers (U.S. Code, Title 26, Section 32).

The earned income credit was originally enacted in 1975, and over the years it has grown to be one of the principal antipoverty programs in the federal budget. The credit was expanded significantly by the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993, and in 1998 some 18 million taxpayers were expected to claim more than $27 billion of earned income tax credits, with an average credit per taxpayer of almost $1,480 per year (U.S. Congress 1996: 809). In 1998, some families will be entitled to claim an earned income tax credit of up to $3,756 per year.

Earned Income Credit: From The Encyclopedia of Taxation and Tax Policy

Where the hell are all my checks for $3,756? Or is the equal protection clause all bullshit?

 

[The Rabbi]

If you are all against redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity it is not suprising you are getting your ass kicked in the current re-election. You guys have gone so far from the mainstream that only a minority can support the current Republican Party. Even our founding fathers would not support you morons.

I take it you didn't like the answer?


LOL

It is not really a matter of like or don't like. I am just amazed the party has been so taken over the far right that this concept is considered socialism. I left the party for exactly this reason.

I am mostly amazed at the party's never ending ability to shoot themselves in their foot by taking stupid positions. This dumb attack is just another example. The Democrats are worthless but sadly the Republicans are worse.

The reason we call taking money from one person to give to another socialism is because that's pretty much what it is. All of us can get on bo0ard with the idea that gov't has the power to tax us to spend money on things that really cannot be provided for by the private market, like defense. But there is no reason to take money from people who are productive and give it to people who are unproductive on a long term basis, as is being done now.

 

[Black_Label]

Obama could have a field day with Willard if he used clips of what he said from 14 years ago.

 

[miami_thomas]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

Since we are talking about forcing equal opportunity. How is it that someone in a truly free society does not already have an equal shot? Sure we are all dealt different cards but we all have the freedom on how we play the cards. Problem is you Democrats want to take from those that played their cards wisely and give to those that threw the cards away.

 

[The Rabbi]

Obama could have a field day with Willard if he used clips of what he said from 14 years ago.

Romney will have a field day with Obambam when he uses clips of what he said from 3 years ago and sooner. "I guess they weren't as shovel ready as I thought". "Don't blow a bunch of money on Vegas." "If I can't get this turned around it will be a one term proposition." And everyone's all time fav "You didnt build that."

 

[Truthmatters]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

SS is payed fo rby the people who end up collecting it.

It is NOT people being on the dole.

why cant you people be honest?

 

[miami_thomas]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

SS is payed fo rby the people who end up collecting it.

It is NOT people being on the dole.

why cant you people be honest?

Yes a person can work for 10 years and contribute a few 100 dollars a month then collect 900 a month for 25 years. It is paid for though and let's not forget the record number of people collecting social security for disability many of which had not contributed a dime. Many of which have stupid things like hot feet.

 

[Truthmatters]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

Since we are talking about forcing equal opportunity. How is it that someone in a truly free society does not already have an equal shot? Sure we are all dealt different cards but we all have the freedom on how we play the cards. Problem is you Democrats want to take from those that played their cards wisely and give to those that threw the cards away.

yeah becuase Paris Hilton played her cards wisely when she chose the womb a wealthy woman

 

[JoeB131]

Robbery has nothing to do with providing equal opportunity.

Depends how you define robbery, isn't it?

The wealthy are wealthy because of their "robbery".

When the poor steal, it's called "crime".

When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".

When the government steals, it's called "Social Policy".

 

[miami_thomas]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

Since we are talking about forcing equal opportunity. How is it that someone in a truly free society does not already have an equal shot? Sure we are all dealt different cards but we all have the freedom on how we play the cards. Problem is you Democrats want to take from those that played their cards wisely and give to those that threw the cards away.

yeah becuase Paris Hilton played her cards wisely when she chose the womb a wealthy woman

She was dealt different cards. Instead of trying to be jealous maybe you should try to succeed and invest your money so some day your children can have the good life. Or if you want you can just keep waiting for the government to take it from those that already did that and give it to you. But in the history of mankind that has never really worked out has it?

 

[jillian]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

many of the founding fathers were opposed to inherited wealth, as well. they didn't want a system of inherited status like what existed in England.

 

[miami_thomas]

Robbery has nothing to do with providing equal opportunity.

Depends how you define robbery, isn't it?

The wealthy are wealthy because of their "robbery".

When the poor steal, it's called "crime".

When the rich steal, it's called "Profits".

When the government steals, it's called "Social Policy".

Depends if you define robbery using the communist manifesto or through the actual dictionary. Profit is stealing only in a communist world where idiots want to suck of the successful.

 

[ba1614]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have they become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

When it is re-distributive, dumbass.

If you are all against redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity it is not suprising you are getting your ass kicked in the current re-election. You guys have gone so far from the mainstream that only a minority can support the current Republican Party. Even our founding fathers would not support you morons.

It's a sad fuckin day when "redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity" is "mainstream".

Thank the good lord my grand daddy didn't live to see the day.

 

[miami_thomas]

I tend to watch Fox news to keep up with what the Republicans are saying and today Hannity had an old video about Obama talking about redistribution of income to give people a shot. They went off on this about Obama being a socialist.

He may or may not be a socialist..... but since when is looking to provide equal opportunity a socialist ideal and anti-American. From Land Grant colleges to public education our founding fathers have been clear about the value of income redistribution for the purposes of providing people a shot at the American dream.

Many people are against trying to provide equal results. I am aligned with this thought and would happily end Social Security. But almost eveyone supports redistribution to provide equal opportunity. Have Republicans become so blind in their hatred of Obama they have lost their minds????

many of the founding fathers were opposed to inherited wealth, as well. they didn't want a system of inherited status like what existed in England.

I know that is why the put the inheritance tax into the constitution right?

What they did not want was for people to be forced into classes that they would be forced to live in the rest of their lives like peasants. Funny thing is that is what Democrats want of course is all people to be serfdoms.

 

[miami_thomas]

When it is re-distributive, dumbass.

If you are all against redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity it is not suprising you are getting your ass kicked in the current re-election. You guys have gone so far from the mainstream that only a minority can support the current Republican Party. Even our founding fathers would not support you morons.

It's a sad fuckin day when "redistribution for the purposes of equal opportunity" is "mainstream".

Thank the good lord my grand daddy didn't live to see the day.

Our founding fathers certainly would not want what you are selling. The escaped that to come to Amercica and they certainly would not want to re-create a world of serfdom.