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Why do you want to know? With or without the white man Black people have existed. We existed prior to your arrival. We will exist after you have been bred out. We taught you how to read and write, and we brought you back to civilization after the Black plaque decimated Europe. If you as a genetic mistake can survive disease, what do you think natures selection in the Black man can do?When are you going to "overcome" what's going on, on the African continent right now ?You are pretty quick. Whites didn't over come anything. Black people did.So it's not racist to say you're proud to be black, but if a white person says it, well their most likely a racist. Got it.Thats probably because the 2 usually wind up being true. What have whites done that has anything to do with the color of their skin that is something to be proud of?I agree, but the moment a white person say's they're proud to be white, their labeled a racist, a KKK member, etc.Anyone can be prideful of the color of their skin. No law against it.
Black people have achieved in spite of being oppressed colonized etc. What have whites overcome? You can say you are proud to be Irish or Jewish etc but white? Not unless you want someone to laugh at you or call you a racist.
Once again it's going to take the white man to bail your ass out with this Ebola threat.
What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
Shock is not hatred but nice try.What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
There is no question about that. You've posted a strawman.
The question is, Why is the Black Community, you could see the shock in Oprah's face, when Raven said what she said, react with such hatred that a person has decided that she wasn't going to allow her skin color or ancestry define her?
What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
There is no question about that. You've posted a strawman.
The question is, Why is the Black Community, you could see the shock in Oprah's face, when Raven said what she said, react with such hatred that a person has decided that she wasn't going to allow her skin color or ancestry define her?
“I never said I wasn’t black… I want to make that very clear. I said, I am not African-American."
I like her. She just doesn't see the need to be labeled according to race or orientation. Of course, lefties won't like that since they put us all in groups.
I liked her statement that she's just a human being who love other human beings.
And why are "black people very particular about identifying themselves"?.....It's pretty easy to tell. I mean, it's stating the obvious.Because she knows that Black people are very particular about identifying themselves. It will be seen as a refutation of her being a Black person even though anyone that has watched the girl knows she is definitely pro Black.Why would she do that( Oprah)...Except Oprah didnt flip. She warned Raven that some people would be upset.
Becuawse we live in aworkd with a bunch of useless hypersensitive douche bags who go through their day searching for things with which to bother themselves.
And for every 100 or so of these assholes is some POS media type who has no ideas for a story, so they resort to "breaking news "(Fill in name of group) offended by comments!!!!!!!!"
Useless piles of organic material. Every one of them.
BTW Ms Samone never stated she did not acknowledge her race. She plainly and clearly stated she did not wish to label herself as "African"..Because she's not. She IS an American. Born in Louisiana.
myself.....you put American first.....she is an American who happens to be of Irish decent.....but first and foremost....you are an American.....What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
myself.....you put American first.....she is an American who happens to be of Irish decent.....but first and foremost....you are an American.....What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
myself.....you put American first.....she is an American who happens to be of Irish decent.....but first and foremost....you are an American.....What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
If you embrace your heritage or sexual id it upsets some people when you combine it with american.Why would anyone call themselves "African-American" or "Gay-American"?
Why not just "American"?
Both blacks and gays have spent most of their existence being told they are lesser Americans. They didn't have the same rights, couldn't associate in public. By emphasizing the American in their name, they are reminding everyone that ...Yes, I am American!
Now why would Conservatives be outraged by someone calling themselves African-American or Gay-American. They are not outraged by someone calling themselves black or gay. But add "American" to the title and it sets them into a frenzy
What I love most is the reaction of people to her comments.
If a White Woman of Irish Ancestry said that she doesn't see herself as an "Irish-American" because she never lived in Ireland, but simply sees herself as an American, there wouldn't be a single eyebrow raised.
However, when a woman who every one sees as being Black who says basically the same thing, all hell breaks loose.
Evidently there is a problem among some with a Black person who doesn't succumb to the "Black Collective".
If a white woman of Irish Ancestry does not embrace the Irish culture, she does not need to declare herself "Irish-American"
However, if she, and her family have always embraced their Irish roots and culture......there is nothing wrong with calling herself an Irish-American
Doesn't make her any less an American
There is no question about that. You've posted a strawman.
The question is, Why is the Black Community, you could see the shock in Oprah's face, when Raven said what she said, react with such hatred that a person has decided that she wasn't going to allow her skin color or ancestry define her?
You have no concept of what a strawman is...but I will address your question anyway
The difference between what Raven said and that hypothetical woman of Irish ancestry is that the Irish woman can go about her life without anyone knowing what her ancestry is. She can fit into the mainstream of American life without question
A black person is always black and has been historically denied access to mainstream America. Oprah understands the struggles that African-Americans have gone through in our society and still go through
Simones "I am just an American" reflects more on the upper class upbringing and access she has received in life than the experience most blacks face in this country. The experiences of a Cosby kid do not carry over to most "African-Americans" who still want to maintain their cultural identification
