Radical Islam Will Not Go Away Unless Crushed

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    Scenes from The Jihad
    By Jeff Jacoby, Boston Globe
    November 1, 2006

    ...there can't be much question that at this point in the war against radical Islam, the radicals are on the march. From Ahmadinejad's swagger to Hezbollah's war on Israel to the plot to blow up jetliners leaving London, our enemies are aggressive, relentless, and unequivocal in their determination to defeat us. Meanwhile, Western Europe is turning into Eurabia before our eyes, as a fading native population with its effete secular culture of pacifism and relativism is superseded by a surging Muslim cohort. Most Muslims are not Islamists or terrorists, of course. However, most of them keep quiet in the face of the radical offensive. That is all the radicals need to keep driving the jihad forward.

    "If this country lets down its guard, it will be a fatal mistake," President Bush said last week. Yet too many Americans seem unable to recognize the threat, or to believe that they, their liberties, and the lives of innumerable human beings are truly at stake in a deadly global war.

    But radical Islam is not going away. Like Nazism and c ommunism, it is (in Senator Rick Santorum's words) "an ideology that produces the systemic murder of innocents." Like those earlier totalitarianisms, it will go on murdering until it is crushed. Like them, it is impervious to appeasement and contemptuous of weakness. The longer Americans sleep, the farther the jihad advances.

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    Further, the great mass of Muslims that are not nominally jihadists are in fact complicit in the violence because they do not strongly condemn the terrorists. And they never take positive action against them. They are analogous to the great mass of Germans in the 30s that were complicit in the violence that engulfed Europe because they stood by and did nothing. There will be no negotiating with radical Islam because it seeks the destruction of those it perceives as enemies. Not just the cultures of the West, but also Indians, Thais, western Chinese, and others. This war will be very long and it will not be over until radical Islam is physically eliminated...erased. Thus far, radical Islam's enemies have not demonstrated the will to win, or that the threat is even understood.
     
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    Totally agree, onedomino. Now if we could only sell that message to the libs in this country and in Europe.........
     
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    Complicit, yes, that's a good way of putting it.

    That's like us sitting around the table, and by our silence, and lack of action, allowing people, that use our religion, to bring terror, and death in our name.

    Total bull plucky!

    Wouldn't happen, people would be distancing themselves from such hate, and terror. The out cry would be deafening, and they would be shown for what they are-CRIMIANLS.

    We would hunt them down, and they would be brought to pay for their crimes.

    I don't see ANY of this going on in the Middle East, or the Islamic nations.

    Its a shame, and they should be ashamed of themselves.

    Its just one of the reasons I can't get too teary eyed when I see "collateral" damage. They finally bring it on themselves, no one else to blame.:smoke:
     
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    That's like us sitting around the table, and by our silence, and lack of action, allowing people, that use our religion, to bring terror, and death in our name.


    Someone once said "Before you remove the splinter from your neighbor's eye, remove the plank from your own.

    Is the muslim world complicit? Sure. They practically have a collective heart attack over a cartoon in a Dutch newspaper but are oblivious to the events swirling around them at home. There's something very, very odd about that.

    But we have a Dear Leader of our own who is visiting death and destruction on others in our name because he believes God told him to do so. So.....is there THAT much difference between us'n and them all? :eek2:
     
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    Is it all about oil?

    I'm sure you're going to say yes, which lead to my next question. If it's all about oil, do you benefit?
     
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    Well, I duuno if its all about oil. But there MUST be some reason why we are expending blood and treasure in Iraq and not in Sudan, where a government 10 times more bloody minded and cruel is presently exterminating its own citizens while the world yawns. Perhaps oil is the answer. But as far as I can tell, the only DEFINITIVE reason for being there is because our own Dear Leader says God spoke to him and told him to do this.

    Around here, people who have direct, personal conversations with God get a free, one way ride to the booby hatch, but I guess if you are the president, you get some special dispensation from being labelled just plain nuts. :duh3:
     
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    First off, even if it was true, deflecting to what our President is doing, in YOUR opinion, does NOT somehow justify what Islam is doing.

    And there's a WORLD of difference between us and them. If you can't see the difference between them and us, you are just part of the problem and no part of ANY solution.
     
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    Crushing the [label of choice for raghead targets here] is a good idea. But honestly I question whether we have the balls and audacity to do it. Don't get me wrong. The services have the will to do as is needed. I question the willpower of the media, the pols, and finally the public who (for the most part) have been lead like sheep by the first two.

    Problem is that our mission over there is a mix of humanitarian and diplomatic taskings with our Military in a support role. But the .mil is shackled with ROES that don't allow them to fully succeed. We've heard that before haven't we? I did, in Lebanon in 1982. It was true then and it's true now. In order to crush the [label of choice for raghead targets here] we must recognize that war is an ugly place and not shy away from it. The locals will have to learn to choose sides and stay the hell away from folks with guns.
     
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    Neither our invasions of Afghanistan nor Iraq were based on your story that God told the President to do so. Both invasions were based on real and valid reasons.

    So you can try that one again.

    Since you're so intelligent, instead of jumping into the clearing guns blazing, why don't try the simple tactic of reading past threads on these topics you appear to want to rehash with long-ago shot down arguments? Just a suggestion from uneducated redneckville.
     
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