Race, Taxes, Birth Certificates, and Eugenics

The Rise of A Postmodern Racist Movement?



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Terrorists

Anti American

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Racists..














There seems little question that something odd is going on with the healthcare debate. Foremost is the ridiculous extent to which the debate has been entirely commandeered by flagrant, outright lies -- things about euthanasia, and death panels, and the like, abject propaganda peddled directly from House and Senate offices. We have had lying in our discourse since the beginning of that discourse, but it has been a long while since the fabrications have been so blatant, so absolutely without even the smallest grain of truth. To take a Republican-sponsored healthcare provision that rather innocently and uncontroversially extends insurance coverage to those that want to create their own living wills and turn it into a declaration that the government will decide every five years whether or not you should be euthanized is something out of the Protocols, or out of Saddam's Iraq, or a mimicry of the worst and most stupid and most absurd of North Korean propaganda towards their own citizens.

Likewise, the explicit instruction to protestors not to debate, but to aggressively attempt to shut down the meetings entirely -- not normal. It is perhaps the best possible approach for insurance lobbyists to take, if their goal is to protect the profits of their industry -- but it is still not normal. We have always had the fringes of such speech, but I cannot recall a time it has been so celebrated as the formal solution to political debate. Certainly not by a major political party, coupled with the majority of their most popular pundits and talking heads, coupled again to lobbyist groups with long histories of corporate astroturfing. And the proud shuffling just-up-to-the-line-of-violence, right in the very faces of their own representatives of Congress, requiring police protection in order to escort those elected representatives safely from the meetings -- that part is new. That part is not normal






Daily Kos: State of the Nation

 

Do people actually believe this crap???

 

You shouldn't say stuff like that about your KOS writers! they might not appreciate it..

 

I think this is a load of road apples. It does seem odd to me that the Democrats are crying foul in the face of these protests. Wasn't it in 1973, that Hillary Clinton, on national tv, pitched a fit and was yelling and screaming that to be called "un-American" when you debated and argued the "issues" with your government representatives and to be called un-patriotic if you disagreed with them was wrong. Now, that doesn't seem to be what the Democrats are saying these days.

I think the big problem with these town hall meetings being conducted by Democrats is the fact that they admit they haven't read the health care bill, are not telling the truth to the people there, guessing at answers instead of providing answers, and talking down and condecending to the people who speak out against the health care bill. I don't blame them for pitching a fit. I would do so myself.

Congress just isn't getting the message, or they are ignoring the fact that the biggest majority of Americans do not want this government controlled health care bill. Everybody wants reform but most people agree that the government has no business in the health care industry. It's too expensive, no way to pay for it except to raise taxes, and it doesn't cover everybody. Also by history, the government can't manage Medicare and Social Security. So why would a sane person want the government to manage their health care. I don't think this is such a hard thing to figure out. Why won't the government pay attention? I think it's because they want to "give" something to the lower income people so they can be cared for by their government like all the other welfare programs. Trouble is they want to do this on the backs of the working people in this country and they just ain't buying this bill of goods.

 

If you need a cartoon to make your argument, you must be a Canadian.

 

How about a little equal time with the cartoons. The libs aren't the only ones who have them you know...

 

That's not a cartoon, that came from Obama's family album!

 

Interesting the accusations on astroturfing by the right. I've said repeatedly that the left owns it, but here's one example:

Health Care for America NOW!