Question

[deltex1]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

 

[MisterBeale]

It's elementary if you know the facts. It has to do with which area can cause the American military, the American homeland, and the American treasury more pain.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

 

[deltex1]

It's elementary if you know the facts. It has to do with which area can cause the American military, the American homeland, and the American treasury more pain.

But D4E says Iran can kick our ass.....?

 

[konradv]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

There was already a war going on in Syria, but not in Iran. Are you looking for another war to accuse Obama of starting? I count none, but what are you up to now, 20..., 30...?

 

[Delta4Embassy]

It's elementary if you know the facts. It has to do with which area can cause the American military, the American homeland, and the American treasury more pain.

But D4E says Iran can kick our ass.....?

Am saying they would kick our ass, then set our corpse on fire while doing penetrative things to our eyesockets.

What do you have to show someone that attests how badass you think our military is? 14 years in Afganistan against an early 20th century opponent and we lost? Won WWII against multiple countries on god only knows how many front in under 4 years. Quit assuming we're still like that, gonna get people killed.

 

[Wyatt earp]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

That's funny, before golf war 1, Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world and the liberal media hyped over the Iraq special Red Bigrade or what ever they were called back then.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

That's funny, before golf war 1, Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world and the liberal media hyped over the Iraq special Red Bigrade or what ever they were called back then.

Iraq's military was made up of conscripts. Iran's is made up of religious zealots.

 

[Wyatt earp]

It's elementary if you know the facts. It has to do with which area can cause the American military, the American homeland, and the American treasury more pain.

But D4E says Iran can kick our ass.....?

Am saying they would kick our ass, then set our corpse on fire while doing penetrative things to our eyesockets.

What do you have to show someone that attests how badass you think our military is? 14 years in Afganistan against an early 20th century opponent and we lost? Won WWII against multiple countries on god only knows how many front in under 4 years. Quit assuming we're still like that, gonna get people killed.

Kind of posting childish now, we bombed e everything we could in Afghanistan and wiped out Iraq's standing army in days....

Gorilla war fare is different then standing army's of WWII

 

[Wyatt earp]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

That's funny, before golf war 1, Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world and the liberal media hyped over the Iraq special Red Bigrade or what ever they were called back then.

Iraq's military was made up of conscripts. Iran's is made up of religious zealots.

How long did the Iran/Iraq war go on?

Those two couldn't beat each other. The only difference between Iraq and Iran is the terran ...

 

[deltex1]

It's elementary if you know the facts. It has to do with which area can cause the American military, the American homeland, and the American treasury more pain.

But D4E says Iran can kick our ass.....?

Am saying they would kick our ass, then set our corpse on fire while doing penetrative things to our eyesockets.

What do you have to show someone that attests how badass you think our military is? 14 years in Afganistan against an early 20th century opponent and we lost? Won WWII against multiple countries on god only knows how many front in under 4 years. Quit assuming we're still like that, gonna get people killed.

That's not about what we can do...it's about what "leadership" allows us to do. Leadership has no balls.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

Military might and capability isn't a function of numbers or hardware but the actual soldiers. Defenders always have the advantage in a war. If a defender loses they lose everything. If an aggressor loses they just turn around and go home. Consequently defenders fight harder putting everything into it.

And while in a naval or air battle the US would do very well, on the ground we'll be slaughtered. Our military is still built upon the idea of a major military war country vs country. Not an occupying insurrgency type enemy. After you fire all the cruise missiles and drop all the bombs, soldiers still have to go in and secure things, occupy the territory and declare victory. Unfortunately there's these things called holes enemies figured out they can hide in until the bombing stops then emerge for the ground fight. And that's when we realize we grossly underestimated our enemies and lose.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

Gawd you're an idiot. Unleash the US military and Iran doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell

 

[nat4900]

Delta4 is 100% correct......

When Cheney decided in 2003 that it'd be a "good idea" to invade Iraq, that country was broken up into 3 spheres with the no-fly zone policies.......Iraq was considerably weakened from the 1st Gulf War...Iraq had NO air force to speak of and, of course, NO navy. Iraq had the Kurds as a thorn, etc.......AND LOOK HOW "WELL" WE DID THERE???

Conversely, Iran has a fairly powerful air force AND navy....The country is THREE times bigger than Iraq, its army is extremely powerful and battle tested.....and Iran has the strong support of Russia.

We BETTER tone down our moronic right wing rhetoric of starting a war with Iran....unless we're willing to incur 20,000 US deaths (at least) and spend $3 TRILLION of borrowed money.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Delta4 is 100% correct......

When Cheney decided in 2003 that it'd be a "good idea" to invade Iraq, that country was broken up into 3 spheres with the no-fly zone policies.......Iraq was considerably weakened from the 1st Gulf War...Iraq had NO air force to speak of and, of course, NO navy. Iraq had the Kurds as a thorn, etc.......AND LOOK HOW "WELL" WE DID THERE???

Conversely, Iran has a fairly powerful air force AND navy....The country is THREE times bidder than Iraq, its army is extremely powerful and battle tested.....and Iran has the strong support of Russia.

We BETTER tone down our moronic right wing rhetoric of starting a war with Iran....unless we're willing to incur 20,000 US deaths (at least) and spend $3 TRILLION of borrowed money.

ROFLMAO....left loons talking about military is funny

 

[Delta4Embassy]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

Because Syria's military forces are split into however many factions whereas Iran's is still united and would soundly stomp the US.

Iran isn't Iraq, Afganistan, or Syria. Way we've done against those predicts disaster against Iran.

Gawd you're an idiot. Unleash the US military and Iran doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell

Show me how. Since WWII show me how we're all butch and badass and not losing war after war and seemingly only doing them to make the defense contractors money. Show how despite how we appear on paper we're losing everything we try and do.

 

[deltex1]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

There was already a war going on in Syria, but not in Iran. Are you looking for another war to accuse Obama of starting? I count none, but what are you up to now, 20..., 30...?

If you need a war to be started in Iran before we obliterate, I am sure that can be arranged.

Military might and capability isn't a function of numbers or hardware but the actual soldiers. Defenders always have the advantage in a war. If a defender loses they lose everything. If an aggressor loses they just turn around and go home. Consequently defenders fight harder putting everything into it.

And while in a naval or air battle the US would do very well, on the ground we'll be slaughtered. Our military is still built upon the idea of a major military war country vs country. Not an occupying insurrgency type enemy. After you fire all the cruise missiles and drop all the bombs, soldiers still have to go in and secure things, occupy the territory and declare victory. Unfortunately there's these things called holes enemies figured out they can hide in until the bombing stops then emerge for the ground fight. And that's when we realize we grossly underestimated our enemies and lose.

what you say is not correct...if you kill without regard to consequence. Let the military kill...let the fag politicians deal with the consequences.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, in addition to being ignorant and a ridiculous lie.

For example, the accord with Iran was not only with the United State, but included five other nations.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

why is is possible to negotiate with Iran...and not attack them....while it is not possible to negotiate with Syria...and we attack them?

This fails as a false comparison fallacy, in addition to being ignorant and a ridiculous lie.

For example, the accord with Iran was not only with the United State, but included five other nations.

Where is the lie? Idiot

 

[Timmy]

Iran is a stable country ? Why would we go to war with them?

Syria is a fucking mess causing death and destruction thru the region as well as a refugee crisis . That's why we are involved with them.