Putting an end to an ubiquitous meme from Trump loyalists

[BackAgain]

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected.

Russian fake accounts showed posts to 126 million Facebook users

Executives from Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be appearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on Tuesday.

www.usatoday.com

Donnie J entered in to a conspiracy with Russians to obtain dirt on Hillary he was told was in the possession of the Russian government. Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

Those two incidents alone prove a conspiracy.

There's this.. FBI documents reveal communication between Stone, Assange

Which coincides with this...https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html

Not to mention this...............Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
and this.......A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?
and this in regard to the evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation. Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
and this......

Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would have been indicted if he were not president

President Donald Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation if he did not hold the nation's highest office, nearly 700 former federal prosecutors argued in an open letter published on Medium on Monday.

The ex-prosecutors — who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations dating back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower — said Attorney General William Barr's decision not to charge Trump with obstruction "runs counter to logic and our experience."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ay-trump-would-have-been-indicted-if-n1002436

All of which creates, for Trumpleton's, the same level of cognitive dissonance Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has created. Shattering the duplicitous narrative right wing media has pushed from the beginning about the events surrounding 1/6.

It's why Trumpleton's will employ every tool for denial, deflection, and of course gratuitous insults (their stock and trade) in response to this thread.

 

[easyt65]

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected.

Russian fake accounts showed posts to 126 million Facebook users

Executives from Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be appearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on Tuesday.

www.usatoday.com

Donnie J entered in to a conspiracy with Russians to obtain dirt on Hillary he was told was in the possession of the Russian government. Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

Those two incidents alone prove a conspiracy.

There's this.. FBI documents reveal communication between Stone, Assange

Which coincides with this...https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html

Not to mention this...............Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
and this.......A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?
and this in regard to the evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation. Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
and this......

Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would have been indicted if he were not president

President Donald Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation if he did not hold the nation's highest office, nearly 700 former federal prosecutors argued in an open letter published on Medium on Monday.

The ex-prosecutors — who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations dating back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower — said Attorney General William Barr's decision not to charge Trump with obstruction "runs counter to logic and our experience."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ay-trump-would-have-been-indicted-if-n1002436

All of which creates, for Trumpleton's, the same level of cognitive dissonance Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has created. Shattering the duplicitous narrative right wing media has pushed from the beginning about the events surrounding 1/6.

It's why Trumpleton's will employ every tool for denial, deflection, and of course gratuitous insults (their stock and trade) in response to this thread.

Hillary's own campaign manager testified Hillary was behind the Seditious Russian Collusion scandal...

FBI agent Page testified the FBI conducted its own internal investigation into the fake collusion claim and found NOTHING TO IT before Mueller was appointed Special Counsel.

The FISA Court relesed a report pointing out, just like Mueller had done when he ran the FBI, Comey & his FBI had defrauded the FISA court to illegally spy on Americans...

Comey threw McCabe undrr thr bus, tesyifying McCabe had illegally leaked information

Comey told the world Hillary had committed crimes, to include espionage, but would not be recommended for prosecution because she had been too stupid to know she was doing it

CIA Director Brennan was caught illegally spying on Congress by D-Boxer and forced to apologize to Congress to avoid Jail time

Schiff & Swalwell were caught illegally, treasonously manufacturing false evidence in an effort to overthrow the US govt by removing the President from office...but failed to do so


What was your point again?

 

[miketx]

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected.

Russian fake accounts showed posts to 126 million Facebook users

Executives from Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be appearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on Tuesday.

www.usatoday.com

Donnie J entered in to a conspiracy with Russians to obtain dirt on Hillary he was told was in the possession of the Russian government. Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

Those two incidents alone prove a conspiracy.

There's this.. FBI documents reveal communication between Stone, Assange

Which coincides with this...https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html

Not to mention this...............Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
and this.......A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?
and this in regard to the evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation. Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
and this......

Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would have been indicted if he were not president

President Donald Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation if he did not hold the nation's highest office, nearly 700 former federal prosecutors argued in an open letter published on Medium on Monday.

The ex-prosecutors — who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations dating back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower — said Attorney General William Barr's decision not to charge Trump with obstruction "runs counter to logic and our experience."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ay-trump-would-have-been-indicted-if-n1002436

All of which creates, for Trumpleton's, the same level of cognitive dissonance Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has created. Shattering the duplicitous narrative right wing media has pushed from the beginning about the events surrounding 1/6.

It's why Trumpleton's will employ every tool for denial, deflection, and of course gratuitous insults (their stock and trade) in response to this thread.

You never posted a fact in your whole miserable life.

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

This fool is trying to revive the debunked Russian collusion fiasco, weak and pathetic. The Dems are in a panic,.

Yep.
Demotwat tantrums didn't work on Trump.
Their blockages on Bill's didn't work on Trump.
Hitlery's "russian collusion" tacktics didn't work on Trump.
Porklosi's "impeachments" didn't work on Trump.
The Squad's juvenile "racist" screaming like fuktards didn't work on Trump.
The DNC's production of January 6th's skirmish didn't work.
The DNC's "insurrection" production of "hearings" is blowing up in their faces.
So now they have their pissants, grunts, trolls, shills, and moles all out trying to conceive some other fraudulant and slanderous accusation to slap on to Trump.

They Dimotwats don't have the ability to understand and comprehend what an HONEST politician IS.
All they understand is lies, pandering, corruption, coercion, violence, destruction, and murder.

Thier diseased little, shrivelled up "brains" can fathom that Trump promised a transparent administration under his term, which is what he gave us. Unlike the DemonicRats with their under the table bargains and back room law changes.

They can't grasp the concept of someone giving the public a promise and keeping it.........much less comprehend that NOTHING is sticking to Trump, because he works with TRANSPARENCY. Jinpings DNC puppets just cannot grasp this, and they never will.

Trump will always trump the Democreeps, because the continue to out themselves with every little manuever they pull, with every lie that they spew, with every heinous atroscity they pull. I mean, seriously.........look at what they had to do to get their brain dead puppet into the White House!

 

[Baron Von Murderpaws]

You never posted a fact in your whole miserable life.

Reiterating lies as "facts" for their lies.
This is all the DemonicRats know how to do. Pander, profile, project, poison, and perjur.

 

[Lesh]

At that point, Fusion switched clients and political parties, pitching its services to Marc Elias, the lawyer for the D.N.C. and Hillary Clinton’s Presidential campaign. Clinton’s identity, too, was kept hidden, in this case behind the screen of Elias’s law firm, Perkins Coie. In the beginning, Clinton’s identity was also hidden from Steele, who knew only that Fusion was hiring him in the late spring of 2016, as a contractor, to investigate the tangled web of Trump’s ties to Russia for an unknown patron. Contrary to the conspiracy theories that the right later spread, Simpson and Fritsch write that they never met or spoke with Clinton. “As far as Fusion knew, Clinton herself had no idea who they were. To this day, no one in the company has ever met or spoken to her,” the book reads. As I reported, although Steele went to the F.B.I. with his findings out of a sense of duty and, by the late summer of 2016, knew that the F.B.I. was seriously investigating Trump’s Russian ties, the communication channels were so siloed that the Clinton campaign was unaware of these facts. Far from conspiring in a plot, the Clinton team had no hard evidence that the F.B.I. was investigating its opponent, even as its own opposition researcher was feeding dirt to the F.B.I. As one top Clinton campaign official told me when I wrote about Steele, “If I’d known the F.B.I. was investigating Trump, I would have been shouting it from the rooftops!”

The Inside Story of Christopher Steeleâs Trump Dossier

In a new book, the founders of the firm that compiled it defend their work.

www.newyorker.com

They will ignore all of this

 

[Mac1958]

They will ignore all of this

In a twisted way, you have to admire this moral Wite-Out™ that they can apply to all of this. Their demigod and their media have so successfully flooded the zone with misinformation and grievance and rage that literally nothing matters to them outside of winning their "war". Nothing. Zero.

And give their demigod credit for his Fifth Avenue observation. He knew his people.

 

[berg80]

In a twisted way, you have to admire this moral Wite-Out™ that they can apply to all of this. Their demigod and their media have so successfully flooded the zone with misinformation and grievance and rage that literally nothing matters to them outside of winning their "war". Nothing. Zero.

And give their demigod credit for his Fifth Avenue observation. He knew his people.

Trumpery has given them the means to ignore/deny anything and everything. Coincidentally, I have used the "flooding the zone" analogy myself. There have been so many instances of egregiously heinous behavior to some extent we've all become desensitzied to them.......especially Trumpleton's who dismiss it all with generic memes like "fake news."

 

[Mac1958]

Trumpery has given them the means to ignore/deny anything and everything. Coincidentally, I have used the "flooding the zone" analogy myself. There have been so many instances of egregiously heinous behavior to some extent we've all become desensitzied to them.......especially Trumpleton's who dismiss it all with generic memes like "fake news."

Yeah, I've long been wondering if "flooding the zone" is a specific strategy or just a natural, innate behavior in a person. And, flogging the dead horse once again, they're at "war", so standards just no longer apply.

This is a completely asymmetrical confrontation. And the side that usually wins that kind of confrontation is the one that ignores all rules of engagement. The Bannon approach. Things are going their way as a result.

 

[berg80]

Yeah, I've long been wondering if "flooding the zone" is a specific strategy or just a natural, innate behavior in a person. And, flogging the dead horse once again, they're at "war", so standards just no longer apply.

This is a completely asymmetrical confrontation. And the side that usually wins that kind of confrontation is the one that ignores all rules of engagement. The Bannon approach. Things are going their way as a result.

I think it's a conscious attempt to normalize abhorrent behavior. To break down barriers of what has always been considered outside the bounds of what is accepted.
One of the enormous difficulties in dealing with an outlier like Trump is the founders of our system of government did not contemplate someone so outrageously undemocratic. There are very few institutional guidelines to handle his abuses.
This is worth reading...........

Repairing the Rule of Law: An Agenda for Post-Trump Reform

What should be done in a post-Trump world to restore the rule of law?

www.lawfareblog.com

 

[berg80]

They will ignore all of this

Yes.

 

[berg80]

From the SIC's report.........

On numerous occasions over the course of his time on the Trump Campaign,
Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. Gates, who
served as Manafort' s deputy on the Campaign, aided Manafort in this effort. Manafort
communicated electronically with Kilimnik and met Kilimnik in person twice while serving on
the Trump Campaign. Manafort briefed Kilimnik on sensitive Campaign polling data and the
Campaign's strategy for beating Hiliary Clinton. At Manafort's direction, Gates used an
encrypted messaging application to send additional Campaign polling data to Kilimnik.

 

[berg80]

From the SIC's report.........

On numerous occasions over the course of his time on the Trump Campaign,
Manafort sought to secretly share internal Campaign information with Kilimnik. Gates, who
served as Manafort' s deputy on the Campaign, aided Manafort in this effort. Manafort
communicated electronically with Kilimnik and met Kilimnik in person twice while serving on
the Trump Campaign. Manafort briefed Kilimnik on sensitive Campaign polling data and the
Campaign's strategy for beating Hiliary Clinton. At Manafort's direction, Gates used an
encrypted messaging application to send additional Campaign polling data to Kilimnik.

The Committee found that Manafort's presence on the Campaign and proximity to
Trump created opportunities for the Russian intelligence services to exert influence over, and
acquire confidential information on, the Trump Campaign. The Committee assesses that
Kilimnik likely served as a channel to Manafort for Russian intelligence services, and that those
services likely sought to .. exploit Manafort's access to gain insight info the Campaign. Taken as a
whole, Manafort's high-level access and willingness to share information with individuals
closely affiliated with the Russian intelligence services, particularly Kilimnik, represented a
grave counterintelligence threat.

 

[Oddball]

Trumpery has given them the means to ignore/deny anything and everything. Coincidentally, I have used the "flooding the zone" analogy myself. There have been so many instances of egregiously heinous behavior to some extent we've all become desensitzied to them.......especially Trumpleton's who dismiss it all with generic memes like "fake news."

You two fucking narcissists should get a room.

 

[berg80]

The DOJ under Barr wrongly withheld parts of a Russia probe memo, a court rules

Friday's appeals court decision said the internal Justice Department memo noted that "Mueller had declined to accuse President Trump of obstructing justice but also had declined to exonerate him." The internal memo said "the Report's failure to take a definitive position could be read to imply an accusation against President Trump" if released to the public, the court wrote.

The Justice Department turned over other documents to Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington as part of the group's lawsuit, but declined to give it the memo. Government lawyers said they were entitled under public records law to withhold the memo because it reflected internal deliberations before any formal decision had been reached on what Mueller's evidence showed.

Sitting presidents are generally protected from criminal charges on grounds it would undermine their ability to perform the office's constitutional duties. The Justice Department, like Mueller, "took as a given that the Constitution would bar the prosecution of a sitting President," the appeals court wrote, which meant the decision that Trump wouldn't be charged had already been made and couldn't be shielded from public release.
The DOJ under Barr wrongly withheld parts of a Russia probe memo, a court rules

As anyone who has followed this thread knows, I have consistently made the case that while matters relating to the assertion of the more ambiguous charge of collusion remain effected in the public's mind by Trump's (and Barr's) obfuscation, the issue of obstruction has no such ambiguity. The evidence is clear.........Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
.........Trump illegally obstructed the investigation.

 

[Lesh]

The DOJ under Barr wrongly withheld parts of a Russia probe memo, a court rules

Friday's appeals court decision said the internal Justice Department memo noted that "Mueller had declined to accuse President Trump of obstructing justice but also had declined to exonerate him." The internal memo said "the Report's failure to take a definitive position could be read to imply an accusation against President Trump" if released to the public, the court wrote.

The Justice Department turned over other documents to Citizens for Responsibility and Ethics in Washington as part of the group's lawsuit, but declined to give it the memo. Government lawyers said they were entitled under public records law to withhold the memo because it reflected internal deliberations before any formal decision had been reached on what Mueller's evidence showed.

Sitting presidents are generally protected from criminal charges on grounds it would undermine their ability to perform the office's constitutional duties. The Justice Department, like Mueller, "took as a given that the Constitution would bar the prosecution of a sitting President," the appeals court wrote, which meant the decision that Trump wouldn't be charged had already been made and couldn't be shielded from public release.
The DOJ under Barr wrongly withheld parts of a Russia probe memo, a court rules

As anyone who has followed this thread knows, I have consistently made the case that while matters relating to the assertion of the more ambiguous charge of collusion remain effected in the public's mind by Trump's (and Barr's) obfuscation, the issue of obstruction has no such ambiguity. The evidence is clear.........Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
.........Trump illegally obstructed the investigation.

So Trump ignored the memo from his own DOJ and then publicly mischaracterized the Mueller Investigation results?

 

[BackAgain]

Nerd berg doesn’t yet grasp that his thread was a fail right from his OP.

 

[Lesh]

Turns out that the memo basically told Barr to pit his spin on it because of people just read what Mueller said they would get the “wrong “ impression

 

[BrokeLoser]

It has been asserted hundreds of times by occupants of Trumpworld........the collusion hoax. It comes up in all manner of contexts. Most recently as a way to dismiss the 1/6 committee's work. Let's see what the facts say.

Manafort conspired with Kilimnik to give the Kremlin internal polling data. US says Russia was given Trump campaign polling data in 2016
Polling data that could have been useful for Putin in targeting Americans with the social media campaign he used to help Don get elected.

Russian fake accounts showed posts to 126 million Facebook users

Executives from Facebook, Twitter and Google will all be appearing before the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Crime and Terrorism on Tuesday.

www.usatoday.com

Donnie J entered in to a conspiracy with Russians to obtain dirt on Hillary he was told was in the possession of the Russian government. Mueller Confirms: Don Jr. Was Too Stupid to Collude

Those two incidents alone prove a conspiracy.

There's this.. FBI documents reveal communication between Stone, Assange

Which coincides with this...https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/12/trump-had-call-with-roger-stone-about-wikileaks-rick-gates-says.html

Not to mention this...............Guide to the Mueller Report’s Findings on “Collusion”
and this.......A Collusion Reading Diary: What Did the Senate Intelligence Committee Find?
and this in regard to the evidence Trump obstructed Mueller's investigation. Obstruction of Justice in the Mueller Report: A Heat Map
and this......

Hundreds of former prosecutors say Trump would have been indicted if he were not president

President Donald Trump would have been indicted for obstruction of justice in special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation if he did not hold the nation's highest office, nearly 700 former federal prosecutors argued in an open letter published on Medium on Monday.

The ex-prosecutors — who have served under both Republican and Democratic administrations dating back to President Dwight D. Eisenhower — said Attorney General William Barr's decision not to charge Trump with obstruction "runs counter to logic and our experience."
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/po...ay-trump-would-have-been-indicted-if-n1002436

All of which creates, for Trumpleton's, the same level of cognitive dissonance Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony has created. Shattering the duplicitous narrative right wing media has pushed from the beginning about the events surrounding 1/6.

It's why Trumpleton's will employ every tool for denial, deflection, and of course gratuitous insults (their stock and trade) in response to this thread.

 

[fncceo]

Russian Collusion Investigation ... Executive Summary