Prove to me that "trickle down" or "rising tide lifts all boats" are wrong?

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

In other words, that shit you propose sucks ass. Some will be productive while others lay around and wait for their food. Eventually, everyone is slothful and no one is productive.

all you have is a fallacy of false cause.

All you have is repeated bullshit phrases.

 

[Bootney Lee Farnsworth]

You claim everyone will Want to Poor when they could just get a job that pays more.

We have historical examples of this very thing happening, all the way back to the pilgrims at Plymouth Rock.

Full text of "Bradford's history of Plymouth plantation, 1606-1646;"

All this whille no supply was heard of, neither knew they
when they might expecte any. So they begane to thinke how
they might raise as much come as they could, and obtaine a
beter crope then they had done, that they might not still thus
languish in miserie. At length, after much debate of things,
the Gov'' (with the advise of the cheefest amongest them)
gave way that they should set corne every man for his owne
perticuler, and in that regard trust to them selves; in all
other things to goe on in the generall way as before. And so
assigned to every family a parcell of land, according to the
proportion of their number for that end, only for present use
(but made no devission for inheritance), and ranged all boys
and youth under some familie. This had very good success;
for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corne
was planted then other waise would have bene by any means
the Gov"" or any other could use, and saved him a great
deall of trouble, and gave farr better contente. The women
now wente wiUingly into the feild, and tooke their Utle-ons
with them to set corne, which before would aledg weaknes,
and inabihtie; whom to have compelled would have bene
thought great tiranie and oppression.

The experience that was had in this commone course and
condition, tried sundrie years, and that amongst godly and
sober men, may well evince the vanitie of that conceite of
Platos and other .ancients, applauded by some of later times;
— that the taking away of propertie, and bringing in com-

Obsolete economics technology; and, they didn't have unemployment compensation for capitalism's natural rate of unemployment. It makes all of the difference.

Did you even read that, Sancho?

 

[Cellblock2429]

In other words, that shit you propose sucks ass. Some will be productive while others lay around and wait for their food. Eventually, everyone is slothful and no one is productive.

How many of you have gutted a critter for din din?

Seriously, have ANY of you been either that hungry, or have a lifestyle like i do?

But i digress, those of you who see America and it's voodoo economy as some socilaist end game might just be right.

Because when 'we the people' allow them the corporate msaters to suck all the life, liberty,and pursuit of anything past waving your flag for thier cheerleading elected lackies ,all we'll have left is the crumbs from their tables...

/——/ Sorry your loser life sucks. Mine is great.

 

[sparky]

Anecdotal cock waving now?

Sure, i'll play, I built my own farm, built my own biz ,have an arsenal and my gun's bigger than yours

your serve

 

[Cellblock2429]

Anecdotal cock waving now?

Sure, i'll play, I built my own farm, built my own biz ,have an arsenal and my gun's bigger than yours

your serve

/——-/ And you want the US to go Commie? After all you accomplished? Makes no sense. BTW congrats on a good job.

 

[sparky]

I'm all for killing a commie for mommie 29, the fact is they operate as insurgents , the 'enemy from within' is among us . Their goal is control ,stay off the media radar , have the masses 'eff w/each other instead of them.

But #'s don't lie, all one needs do is follow the $$$, it becomes clear they are gaining power, we are loosing, our freedoms, our identity, our future, everything

 

[Cellblock2429]

I'm all for killing a commie for mommie 29, the fact is they operate as insurgents , the 'enemy from within' is among us . Their goal is control ,stay off the media radar , have the masses 'eff w/each other instead of them.

But #'s don't lie, all one needs do is follow the $$$, it becomes clear they are gaining power, we are loosing, our freedoms, our identity, our future, everything

/----/ Sorry for the confusion but your posts are not clear.

 

[sparky]

then it's my bad 29

~S~

 

[sparky]

see, i was a 99er long before the term was popular.

 

[sparky]

I believe this countrys (for that matter worlds) elites control us , and bullsh*t us into believing we set it's course

 

[sparky]

http://www.theyrule.net/

 

[McRocket]

How many times have we heard socialists bitch and moan about the filthy wealthy. The 1%ers! And how many times have we heard "trickle down" doesn't work or "rising tide lifts all boats" is wrong?

YET my simple question that even the most IGNORANT socialist, 1%er hater seemingly can't answer is this:

Do the filthy wealthy bury their wealth in the backyard or hide under their mattresses ?

Obviously you are not rich and/or do not know people whom are.

1) How did the rich, get rich? Did they spend every cent they made? Or did they save/invest every cent they could?
You cannot get rich buying 'toys' (yachts/cars/etc.) with all your money. You get rich by putting excess capital into sound investments/cash equivalents. Many of these investments do not immediately help the economy and many of them are based offshore (which does not help the economy at all).

2) Let's say a poor person and a multi-millionaire each get a tax saving of $1,000? We know that the poor person is going to probably spend every cent they have...immediately. But we also can be reasonably certain that the rich person will just add the money 'to the pile'.
Why would a rich person spend it? They already have everything they need and almost everything they want? But a poor person DEFINITELY does not even have everything they need - let alone everything they want.

Unless you are an idiot/ignoramus - the answer is obvious...a tax cut on the poor will cause those tax dollars to be spent at a FAR higher rate than a tax cut for the rich.

 

[McRocket]

Trump's Numbers (Second Quarterly Update) - FactCheck.org

And - from your link - here is the main reason trickle-down is pure nonsense:

'The federal debt rose by more than $1 trillion, and projected annual deficits increased.'


Now the Moron-In-Chief wants to cut middle class taxes by 10%. That sounds great...but how the hell is this dumbass going to pay for it?

Does he even know what a 'fiscal deficit' is?

Does he care?

 

[sparky]

Rich vs super rich, the other wealth gap

 

[sparky]

Now the Moron-In-Chief wants to cut middle class taxes by 10%. That sounds great...but how the hell is this dumbass going to pay for it?

Increasing the GND ceiling from insane to doubly insane of course

But most attention was diverted , some scotus nominee ,a porn star, boris & natasha....etc as naseum......~S~

 

[healthmyths]

Trump's Numbers (Second Quarterly Update) - FactCheck.org

And - from your link - here is the main reason trickle-down is pure nonsense:

'The federal debt rose by more than $1 trillion, and projected annual deficits increased.'


Now the Moron-In-Chief wants to cut middle class taxes by 10%. That sounds great...but how the hell is this dumbass going to pay for it?

Does he even know what a 'fiscal deficit' is?

Does he care?

Defined by Pew as those earning 67% to 200% of the median income — $39,560 to $118,080 in 2016
How much income you have to earn to be considered middle class in every US state

The average income of $50,000 to $100,000 submitted 21.9% of 137.3 million 2015 tax returns with average tax rate of 7.2% or 30 million.
Who pays U.S. income tax, and how much?

As of May 8, 2015, the IRS received more than 137.3 million tax returns
Results of the 2015 Filing Season

Average tax liability of the $50,000 to 100,000 tax return was $6,251.
Here's What the Average American Pays in Federal Income Taxes -- The Motley Fool

FACTS then:
30 million tax returns under Trump's 10% cut would then save $625 per tax return or: $18,795,944,370 tax savings.

Please explain to me what will these 30 million tax returns do with this $18 billion?
Will they bury it in the backyard or hide under their mattress? What will happen to that $18 billion?
Maybe just maybe... this extra $50/month will be used foolishly and SPENT! Oh how dumb!

Hmm... if these 30 million tax return filers don't hide under the mattress or bury in the backyard...goodness what will happen?
Please advise if this $18 billion will be spent or what?

Called the "Multiplier effect" for every $1 spent in the economy it multiples by 1.19 or now we have $22 billion spent... and that money is on salaries, etc.
UNLESS they are idiots like most people that refuse to let Americans keep their money these tax filers hide under the mattress or bury in the backyard!

 

[sparky]

you do realuze the multiplier effect is basically Keynesian macroeconomics, right?

 

[danielpalos]

In other words, that shit you propose sucks ass. Some will be productive while others lay around and wait for their food. Eventually, everyone is slothful and no one is productive.

all you have is a fallacy of false cause.

All you have is repeated bullshit phrases.

that how simple my arguments are getting; down to, one liners. You still have nothing but fallacy, not Any form of valid arguments.

 

[danielpalos]

you do realuze the multiplier effect is basically Keynesian macroeconomics, right?

so what. Government spending is being used to "boost the economy".

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

A fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and unemployment compensation for simply being unemployed can ensure I can circulate capital, pay taxes, and create demand.

So, for any reason, I can stop working and still get paid? What happens when everyone does this?

Our Preppy Republic

Right now, only Trustfundies do that, which is why they become Liberals.