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No testing for explosive residue was ever doneit would of been the explosions witnesses reported throughout the building
the vile dishonesty here is claiming temperatures existed when there is no evidence in the steel tested of such temperatures
Could that be because they didn't have EVERY SINGLE piece of steel available to them? That this wasn't an "in a perfect world" situation? Do you think they know exactly what columns were impacted by the bearing hub on the starboard engine? This was a huge catastrophe. And to assume that every detail can be found................you would have to be a "conspiracy theorist" of the most delusional level.
And sense you brought up having "no evidence", there is no evidence of bombs, C4, thermite or whatever explosive device you believe. People hearing explosions in a building that is on fire does not equal bombs. Finding physical evidence of a bomb...........equals a bomb. So how does your theory stack up against any other theory, let alone the official one?
Do you actually believe EVERY video put on YouTube!? Damn....what is the weather like on your planet?
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uor8NhUr_90&feature=player_embedded]Fire Fighter Erik Lawyer Slams NIST And The 9/11 "Investigation" - YouTube[/ame]
9 11 THE BIG CLUE EVERYONE MISSED - YouTube
Here is this disinformation agent automatically concluding before ANYBODY has even NIST,that the towers fell due to structural failure from the fires saying the intense heat caused it.
even though the films show the majority of the explosion took place outside the towers the fires are really intense.
Even though there was black smoke emitting from the towers proving the fires were oxygen starved and not serious at all just like the firefighters are recorded saying before they collapsed and there have been many cases over the years of towers such as the one in philadelphia where it was lit up like a torch unlike the twin towers, and did not collapse,these twin towers heat was so intense it caused strutural failure and for them to collapse.
In somehow,immediately these newscasters had physic powers to declare that very day shortly after the attacks, that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks.
Best fairy tale ever created by the government and many blind sheep americans,many of them being here at this site as well,bought this fairy tale hook,line and sinker.
Boy our school systems are failing.either that or many people here in the states,slept through junior high school science classes.
These fires were not hot enough to melt a marshmellow,let along cause structural failure.
good one.it would have been great comedy material for a comedy routine if it wasnt such a tragedy.
Oh and disinfo agents,yes I know I said 9/111 in the thread instead of 9/11,yes I just realised that, but I cant change the title,only a mod can.
Interesting how the story was put out so fast...before any tower even collapsed and only 33 minutes after the second tower got hit was an elaborate story being aired on who's responsible...
Well it certainly brings to question if the "official story" for 9/11 was prewitten before the attacks...
If nothing else it sure looks bad for the investigation into who was responsible for 9/11 being completed so fast... let alone the investigation on who was responsible having to make its way to the media with an elaborate story written...
The story being out so fast is incriminating enough let alone if you think about...was the investigation done before the attacks even happened...I think the answer is quite clear.
Another interesting fact is the first guy who promoted the story was Jerome Hauer who just happened to be...
*Bio Warfare expert...which brings to mind the anthrax attacks right after 9/11 targeting Senate and Media
*Drug Company Director...which brings to mind the fact that the White House staff was taking the medication for anthrax before the first anthrax attack even occured...(fact if you are not too lazy to check for yourself)
*Commissioner for Office of Emergency Management...which brings to mind how it was being reinforced as a sky bunker just before 9/11 on the 23rd floor of World Tade Center 7, Building 7...with its floors, walls, windows all being reinforced making it some type of tree fort within sight of the World Trade Center twin towers...
*Bush Administration Insider...last but not least
Fighters's Radio Communications In South Tower - YouTube
I'm not sure what that video is supposed to prove. The firemen only made it to lowest floor below the impact point. The dishonesty (or ignorance) of the narration is quite obvious. He takes the statement of Orio Palmer, "multiple 10-45 code 1's" and then claims that "10-45" means injured people. He leaves off the "code 1" which means DEAD.
10-45 D.O.A. OR SERIOUS INJURY
Transmitted IMMEDIATELY upon the discovery of a fatality
or serious injury at a fire or emergency. This shall be
followed as soon as possible with the appropriate Code
and the number of victims.
CODE 1 Victim Deceased
CODE 2 Victim suffering serious injury. (Apparently
life threatening)
CODE 3 Victim suffering serious injury. (Apparently
NOT life threatening.)
NOTE: Do not transmit this signal for minor
injuries.
REF. nyfd.com/radio.html
So how are there are dead people below the point of impact if the fires and damage were not severe??
At the end of the video, he makes reference to the office fire that is "said to of destroyed 110 stories of structural steel".......................REALLY!!?? Who said that!? That is not at all the official version of events. That has to be the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. That is an extremely dishonest video and anyone who takes it for "evidence" is not looking for the TRUTH.
The truth is that these firemen made it up to the 78-79th floor, which was the lowest point of the impact. They could not precede any further due to the damage. And before they could take any action to get higher, the building collapsed............killing them. So, using there voices to try and prove a ridiculous series of events is just vile!
it would of been the explosions witnesses reported throughout the building
the vile dishonesty here is claiming temperatures existed when there is no evidence in the steel tested of such temperatures
Derp-ideots cannot even convince folks who post at USMB that the 9/11 "investigation must be re-opened."
Making quite a dent in the whole real world, though.
Ching Chong Potato, derp-ideots.
thats the rebuttal to these highly qualified experts...thats the debwunkers
debwunking ??...my god what a pathetic little man you must be
9 11 THE BIG CLUE EVERYONE MISSED - YouTube
Here is this disinformation agent automatically concluding before ANYBODY has even NIST,that the towers fell due to structural failure from the fires saying the intense heat caused it.
even though the films show the majority of the explosion took place outside the towers the fires are really intense.
Even though there was black smoke emitting from the towers proving the fires were oxygen starved and not serious at all just like the firefighters are recorded saying before they collapsed and there have been many cases over the years of towers such as the one in philadelphia where it was lit up like a torch unlike the twin towers, and did not collapse,these twin towers heat was so intense it caused strutural failure and for them to collapse.
In somehow,immediately these newscasters had physic powers to declare that very day shortly after the attacks, that Osama Bin Laden was behind the attacks.
Best fairy tale ever created by the government and many blind sheep americans,many of them being here at this site as well,bought this fairy tale hook,line and sinker.
Boy our school systems are failing.either that or many people here in the states,slept through junior high school science classes.
These fires were not hot enough to melt a marshmellow,let along cause structural failure.
good one.it would have been great comedy material for a comedy routine if it wasnt such a tragedy.
Oh and disinfo agents,yes I know I said 9/111 in the thread instead of 9/11,yes I just realised that, but I cant change the title,only a mod can.
Interesting how the story was put out so fast...before any tower even collapsed and only 33 minutes after the second tower got hit was an elaborate story being aired on who's responsible...
Well it certainly brings to question if the "official story" for 9/11 was prewitten before the attacks...
If nothing else it sure looks bad for the investigation into who was responsible for 9/11 being completed so fast... let alone the investigation on who was responsible having to make its way to the media with an elaborate story written...
The story being out so fast is incriminating enough let alone if you think about...was the investigation done before the attacks even happened...I think the answer is quite clear.
Another interesting fact is the first guy who promoted the story was Jerome Hauer who just happened to be...
*Bio Warfare expert...which brings to mind the anthrax attacks right after 9/11 targeting Senate and Media
*Drug Company Director...which brings to mind the fact that the White House staff was taking the medication for anthrax before the first anthrax attack even occured...(fact if you are not too lazy to check for yourself)
*Commissioner for Office of Emergency Management...which brings to mind how it was being reinforced as a sky bunker just before 9/11 on the 23rd floor of World Tade Center 7, Building 7...with its floors, walls, windows all being reinforced making it some type of tree fort within sight of the World Trade Center twin towers...
*Bush Administration Insider...last but not least
Yes I noticed that loyal Bush dupe Light ignored that little tidbit,kinda the same way he ignored my facts that he wants to believe has been debunked.
Derp-ideots cannot even convince folks who post at USMB that the 9/11 "investigation must be re-opened."
Making quite a dent in the whole real world, though.
Ching Chong Potato, derp-ideots.
thats the rebuttal to these highly qualified experts...thats the debwunkers
debwunking ??...my god what a pathetic little man you must be
@ id-eots.Interesting how the story was put out so fast...before any tower even collapsed and only 33 minutes after the second tower got hit was an elaborate story being aired on who's responsible...
Well it certainly brings to question if the "official story" for 9/11 was prewitten before the attacks...
If nothing else it sure looks bad for the investigation into who was responsible for 9/11 being completed so fast... let alone the investigation on who was responsible having to make its way to the media with an elaborate story written...
The story being out so fast is incriminating enough let alone if you think about...was the investigation done before the attacks even happened...I think the answer is quite clear.
Another interesting fact is the first guy who promoted the story was Jerome Hauer who just happened to be...
*Bio Warfare expert...which brings to mind the anthrax attacks right after 9/11 targeting Senate and Media
*Drug Company Director...which brings to mind the fact that the White House staff was taking the medication for anthrax before the first anthrax attack even occured...(fact if you are not too lazy to check for yourself)
*Commissioner for Office of Emergency Management...which brings to mind how it was being reinforced as a sky bunker just before 9/11 on the 23rd floor of World Tade Center 7, Building 7...with its floors, walls, windows all being reinforced making it some type of tree fort within sight of the World Trade Center twin towers...
*Bush Administration Insider...last but not least
Yes I noticed that loyal Bush dupe Light ignored that little tidbit,kinda the same way he ignored my facts that he wants to believe has been debunked.
Yes...nobody can reasonably defend the investigation being completed and spoonfed to mass media so quickly and then an elaborate written news cast put on the air claiming who is responsible, before the first tower even fell...
BULLSHIT:fires emitting black smoke are not serious fires and can be put out easily.
Seriously, where do you come up with this shit?
the fires where not reported to be very large by first response and eyewitnesses near the impact area .testing of the steel shows no evidence of the temp required to cause failure of structural steel
THOSE CLIPS WERE BULLSHIT THE FIRST TIME YOU POSTED THEM AND THEY'RE STILL BULSHIT 1,000,000,000 TIMES LATER there is no corroborating evidence to prove them valid!Derp-ideots cannot even convince folks who post at USMB that the 9/11 "investigation must be re-opened."
Making quite a dent in the whole real world, though.
Ching Chong Potato, derp-ideots.
thats the rebuttal to these highly qualified experts...thats the debwunkers
debwunking ??...my god what a pathetic little man you must be
for once you actually said something intelligent because yes it IS a giant leap of logic saying that the crashes and the fire caused the structural failure because again,anybody who knows anything about the laws of physics know they were violated that day,that fires dont cause buildings to collapse at free fall speed.
also you cripple your arguments here in a major way cause even if you accept the collapse of the towers then you cant explain the collapse of building 7.surely you know about that one? bld 7 is the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission you or nobody can get around because bld 7 WASNT hit by an airplane but it also collapsed and there is no logical explanation for it whatsoever because it was much further away from the other buildings even buildings next door to the towers.
the buildings much closer to the towers including its neighbors next to them were damaged far more extensively and had far more severe fires as the photos prove yet all those buildings remained standing but bld 7 collapsed.all three were owned by jew larry silverstein and all three not only collapsed in the same freefall speed the way buildings do in a controlled demolition,but they also demonstrated the same characterics.
face it,you fell for this fairy tale hook,line, and sinker and are quite one funny coincidence theorist if you still accept the version of the governments. since this was the first time in history buildings collapsed due to fire and again,they all three just happened to owned by silverstein.Major coincidence there.oh and these trolls posting here which btw just so you know,they all KNOW it was an inside job just as much as me and eots do.again they are just here to try and derail truth discussions cause thats what their handlers pay them to do so this is the wisest thing anybody can do with them.
HOLY CRAP!! Do you have that "script" written on the inside of your helmet?
Laws of physics violated?..........Fires can't cause a building to collapse?..............Free fall speed?...........Building 7 is the smoking gun?
It's obvious that you believe EVERYTHING on the internet. And that people with opinions apposing yours are trolls that KNOW the truth and are trying to cover it up.................WOW! Because the fight for "truth" is going to be won on message boards.....huh?!
You obviously have no concern with finding the "truth". Because everything that you just posted has been thoroughly discussed over the past decade. And all of it has been debunked and tossed in the garage were it belongs. Because if there was any truth to any of it, it would be the largest story in history, and the media would be falling all over themselves to get a peace of it.
No "YOU" are lying and have no interest in finding the truth,again you prove that you slept through junior high school science classes and your making up lies also because you are extremely ignorant about science,you have proven that in spades.
your lying also because unlike you,I look at opposing views and dont ignore them such as yourself and you lie as well saying i get my information from the net.again unlike you,I listen to an opposing view which is why I have read many books on it which you obviously havent. .You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ass.your putting words in my mouth also.I never called you a troll,I was calling these agent trolls on my ignore list trolls who AGAIN KNOW it was an inside job .
the same ones you ignorantly listen to. and where did i say the truth would be won on a message board? you keep ignoring evidence and facts that prove you wrong because your obviously in denial and close minded and are putting words in my mouth.I never said you were a troll.I just said you were brainwashed just like "I" was at one time till unlike you,I kept an open mind and realised the facts of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government which is why there is such a huge controvery over this.not to mention that to accept the governments version,your being an idiot saying that the laws of physics no longer apply anymore,get a clue.
Im not the one being stupid ignoring what experts such as firemen,architects and engineers say and worshipping what these corrupt government instituitons such as NIST and the corporate media tell me.you are obviously dense in the fact that the media is nothing more that a TOOL for the government.
You are a chickenshit coward,you wont even try and address my points I brought up because you know you cant counter them.Like all Bush dupes,you have no debating skills whatsoever,you make b.s claims these points have been debunked without proving your b.s you sprout off,without addressing them.No surprise,you Bush dupes always go off on these rants and make up lies when you know you are defeated.You would be laughed out of a debating hall in five minutes with your debating skills and lose because of your failure to try and counter these facts.lol
With the help of Eots videos he posted that you ran away from,you lost this debate.You obviously have too much pride and too much arrogance to admit you are a Bush dupe who has been brainwashed and too afraid to look at the evidence as you have proven in spades here.you REALLY need to go back and take some science classes in junior high,I have had more intelligent conversations about science easily over the laws of physics with those kinds of students than I have had with you with your ignrorance you have displayed here.
they dont run away from these points and throw tantrems when defeated and are mature enough to admit so because unlike you,they are not close minded.
this shoud be interesting..HOLY CRAP!! Do you have that "script" written on the inside of your helmet?
Laws of physics violated?..........Fires can't cause a building to collapse?..............Free fall speed?...........Building 7 is the smoking gun?
It's obvious that you believe EVERYTHING on the internet. And that people with opinions apposing yours are trolls that KNOW the truth and are trying to cover it up.................WOW! Because the fight for "truth" is going to be won on message boards.....huh?!
You obviously have no concern with finding the "truth". Because everything that you just posted has been thoroughly discussed over the past decade. And all of it has been debunked and tossed in the garage were it belongs. Because if there was any truth to any of it, it would be the largest story in history, and the media would be falling all over themselves to get a peace of it.
No "YOU" are lying and have no interest in finding the truth,again you prove that you slept through junior high school science classes and your making up lies also because you are extremely ignorant about science,you have proven that in spades.
your lying also because unlike you,I look at opposing views and dont ignore them such as yourself and you lie as well saying i get my information from the net.again unlike you,I listen to an opposing view which is why I have read many books on it which you obviously havent. .You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ass.your putting words in my mouth also.I never called you a troll,I was calling these agent trolls on my ignore list trolls who AGAIN KNOW it was an inside job .
the same ones you ignorantly listen to. and where did i say the truth would be won on a message board? you keep ignoring evidence and facts that prove you wrong because your obviously in denial and close minded and are putting words in my mouth.I never said you were a troll.I just said you were brainwashed just like "I" was at one time till unlike you,I kept an open mind and realised the facts of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government which is why there is such a huge controvery over this.
Im not the one being stupid ignoring what experts such as firemen,architects and engineers say and worshipping what these corrupt government instituitons such as NIST and the corporate media tell me.you are obviously dense in the fact that the media is nothing more that a TOOL for the government.
You are a chickenshit coward,you wont even try and address my points I brought up because you know you cant counter them.Like all Bush dupes,you have no debating skills whatsoever,you make b.s claims these points have been debunked without proving your b.s you sprout off,without addressing them.No surprise,you Bush dupes always go off on these rants and make up lies when you know you are defeated.You would be laughed out of a debating hall in five minutes with your debating skills and lose because of your failure to try and counter these facts.lol
With the help of Eots videos he posted that you ran away from,you lost this debate.You obviously have too much pride and too much arrogance to admit you are a Bush dupe who has been brainwashed and too afraid to look at the evidence as you have proven in spades here.you REALLY need to go back and take some science classes in junior high,I have had more intelligent conversations about science easily over the laws of physics with those kinds of students than I have had with you with your ignrorance you have displayed here.
they dont run away from these points and throw tantrems when defeated and are mature enough to admit so because unlike you,they are not close minded.
Ok......................which point would you like to start with? Pick one and lets discuss it.
HOLY CRAP!! Do you have that "script" written on the inside of your helmet?
Laws of physics violated?..........Fires can't cause a building to collapse?..............Free fall speed?...........Building 7 is the smoking gun?
It's obvious that you believe EVERYTHING on the internet. And that people with opinions apposing yours are trolls that KNOW the truth and are trying to cover it up.................WOW! Because the fight for "truth" is going to be won on message boards.....huh?!
You obviously have no concern with finding the "truth". Because everything that you just posted has been thoroughly discussed over the past decade. And all of it has been debunked and tossed in the garage were it belongs. Because if there was any truth to any of it, it would be the largest story in history, and the media would be falling all over themselves to get a peace of it.
No "YOU" are lying and have no interest in finding the truth,again you prove that you slept through junior high school science classes and your making up lies also because you are extremely ignorant about science,you have proven that in spades.
your lying also because unlike you,I look at opposing views and dont ignore them such as yourself and you lie as well saying i get my information from the net.again unlike you,I listen to an opposing view which is why I have read many books on it which you obviously havent. .You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ass.your putting words in my mouth also.I never called you a troll,I was calling these agent trolls on my ignore list trolls who AGAIN KNOW it was an inside job .
the same ones you ignorantly listen to. and where did i say the truth would be won on a message board? you keep ignoring evidence and facts that prove you wrong because your obviously in denial and close minded and are putting words in my mouth.I never said you were a troll.I just said you were brainwashed just like "I" was at one time till unlike you,I kept an open mind and realised the facts of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government which is why there is such a huge controvery over this.
Im not the one being stupid ignoring what experts such as firemen,architects and engineers say and worshipping what these corrupt government instituitons such as NIST and the corporate media tell me.you are obviously dense in the fact that the media is nothing more that a TOOL for the government.
You are a chickenshit coward,you wont even try and address my points I brought up because you know you cant counter them.Like all Bush dupes,you have no debating skills whatsoever,you make b.s claims these points have been debunked without proving your b.s you sprout off,without addressing them.No surprise,you Bush dupes always go off on these rants and make up lies when you know you are defeated.You would be laughed out of a debating hall in five minutes with your debating skills and lose because of your failure to try and counter these facts.lol
With the help of Eots videos he posted that you ran away from,you lost this debate.You obviously have too much pride and too much arrogance to admit you are a Bush dupe who has been brainwashed and too afraid to look at the evidence as you have proven in spades here.you REALLY need to go back and take some science classes in junior high,I have had more intelligent conversations about science easily over the laws of physics with those kinds of students than I have had with you with your ignrorance you have displayed here.
they dont run away from these points and throw tantrems when defeated and are mature enough to admit so because unlike you,they are not close minded.
Ok......................which point would you like to start with? Pick one and lets discuss it.
the first two pics are buildings that are not part of world trade center,they are posted because THEY are serious fires unlike the twin towers or bld 7 yet those towers remained standing is why he posted those two pics first. could it be possible because they were not owned by jew Larry Silverstein? think, you can do it.oh thats right,your in denial and a coincidence theorist so you dont want to think.No "YOU" are lying and have no interest in finding the truth,again you prove that you slept through junior high school science classes and your making up lies also because you are extremely ignorant about science,you have proven that in spades.
your lying also because unlike you,I look at opposing views and dont ignore them such as yourself and you lie as well saying i get my information from the net.again unlike you,I listen to an opposing view which is why I have read many books on it which you obviously havent. .You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ass.your putting words in my mouth also.I never called you a troll,I was calling these agent trolls on my ignore list trolls who AGAIN KNOW it was an inside job .
the same ones you ignorantly listen to. and where did i say the truth would be won on a message board? you keep ignoring evidence and facts that prove you wrong because your obviously in denial and close minded and are putting words in my mouth.I never said you were a troll.I just said you were brainwashed just like "I" was at one time till unlike you,I kept an open mind and realised the facts of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government which is why there is such a huge controvery over this.
Im not the one being stupid ignoring what experts such as firemen,architects and engineers say and worshipping what these corrupt government instituitons such as NIST and the corporate media tell me.you are obviously dense in the fact that the media is nothing more that a TOOL for the government.
You are a chickenshit coward,you wont even try and address my points I brought up because you know you cant counter them.Like all Bush dupes,you have no debating skills whatsoever,you make b.s claims these points have been debunked without proving your b.s you sprout off,without addressing them.No surprise,you Bush dupes always go off on these rants and make up lies when you know you are defeated.You would be laughed out of a debating hall in five minutes with your debating skills and lose because of your failure to try and counter these facts.lol
With the help of Eots videos he posted that you ran away from,you lost this debate.You obviously have too much pride and too much arrogance to admit you are a Bush dupe who has been brainwashed and too afraid to look at the evidence as you have proven in spades here.you REALLY need to go back and take some science classes in junior high,I have had more intelligent conversations about science easily over the laws of physics with those kinds of students than I have had with you with your ignrorance you have displayed here.
they dont run away from these points and throw tantrems when defeated and are mature enough to admit so because unlike you,they are not close minded.
Ok......................which point would you like to start with? Pick one and lets discuss it.
Ok this is really the ONLY one that needs to be discussed because its the point nobody has ever been able to debunk which is again building 7 the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission they couldnt get around and nobody has ever been able to get around.
again Building 7 was a couple blocks away from the towers.again this is where you crippled your argument mentioniong the combination of the jet and the fires causing the collapse.well bld 7 WASNT hit by an airliner and the fires were not anywhere near as severe as the fires in the buildings that were next door neighbors to the towers which were also damaged FAR MORE EXTENSIVELY as these photos that Pualitican posted on this thread prove.Its the 9th post on this page.you going to deny those buildings next to the towers were not damaged far worse than bld 7?
so WHY did THEY not collapse genius?
http://www.usmessageboard.com/consp...question-for-the-911-conspiracy-buffs-16.html
While the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey is often identified as the owner of the WTC site, the ownership situation is actually somewhat complex and ambiguous.[3] The Port Authority indeed owns a "significant" internal portion of the site of 16 acres (65,000 m2), but has acknowledged "ambiguities over ownership of miscellaneous strips of property at the World Trade Center site" going back to the 1960s. It is unclear who owns 2.5 acres (10,000 m2) of the site, being land where streets had been before the World Trade Center was built.
