Proof the cover story for 9/111 began immediately after the attacks

[Rat in the Hat]

no ,they are facts ,firefighters that reached the impact zone reported small containable fires as did survivors,,,and there is no forensic evidence or testing of remaining steel that shows fires reached anything close to temperatures predicted as required for failure

The firefighters only reached the lowest floor of the impact area, so they only saw small pockets of fire. The largest fire zones were at the fuselage impact area and above, and had much larger areas that were engulfed with flames.

But, you knew that, didn't you?

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

 

[eots]

The firefighters only reached the lowest floor of the impact area, so they only saw small pockets of fire. The largest fire zones were at the fuselage impact area and above, and had much larger areas that were engulfed with flames.

But, you knew that, didn't you?

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

wow, this blazing fire zone gets smaller and smaller all the time..so where is this hot spot exactly ??

 

[7forever]

The firefighters only reached the lowest floor of the impact area, so they only saw small pockets of fire. The largest fire zones were at the fuselage impact area and above, and had much larger areas that were engulfed with flames.

But, you knew that, didn't you?

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

You stupid fucking ****. Fires did not bring down the towers because there were no planes.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

wow, this blazing fire zone gets smaller and smaller all the time..so where is this hot spot exactly ??

Three and four floors above her.

In case you don't know, the orange stuff you see in the picture is fire. You may notice there is none in her immediate vicinity.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

You stupid fucking ****. Fires did not bring down the towers because there were no planes.

Go away, Chri$$y.

 

[eots]

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

wow, this blazing fire zone gets smaller and smaller all the time..so where is this hot spot exactly ??

Three and four floors above her.

In case you don't know, the orange stuff you see in the picture is fire. You may notice there is none in her immediate vicinity.

any evidence of this ??? the fire seems to be in the general impact area only

 

[Light]

Ok, back to the OP claims.
The video shows a guy being interviewed about what he witnessed. He saw planes crash into the towers...............the resulting fires.............and then the collapse of both towers. He then makes the GIANT LEAP OF LOGIC that the crashes and fires caused the structural failure of the buildings. How is that "Proof of a Cover Story"? Anyone on those streets that day, (with 2 brain cells to rub together), made the same conclusion. Do you think that everybody witnessing this horrible event, got out their personal copy of the WTC construction plans and starting dissecting the damage to the building?!

I will agree that the guy says all this with a certain amount of arrogance in his voice...............like he knows "exactly" what happened. Then again, there are a lot of know-it-all's in the world that think they have all the answers.

NOW................if you happen to be the sole possessor of the irrefutable evidence that proves that those building came down by something other than structural failure, PLEASE post it.

for once you actually said something intelligent because yes it IS a giant leap of logic saying that the crashes and the fire caused the structural failure because again,anybody who knows anything about the laws of physics know they were violated that day,that fires dont cause buildings to collapse at free fall speed.

also you cripple your arguments here in a major way cause even if you accept the collapse of the towers then you cant explain the collapse of building 7.surely you know about that one? bld 7 is the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission you or nobody can get around because bld 7 WASNT hit by an airplane but it also collapsed and there is no logical explanation for it whatsoever because it was much further away from the other buildings even buildings next door to the towers.

the buildings much closer to the towers including its neighbors next to them were damaged far more extensively and had far more severe fires as the photos prove yet all those buildings remained standing but bld 7 collapsed.all three were owned by jew larry silverstein and all three not only collapsed in the same freefall speed the way buildings do in a controlled demolition,but they also demonstrated the same characterics.
face it,you fell for this fairy tale hook,line, and sinker and are quite one funny coincidence theorist if you still accept the version of the governments. since this was the first time in history buildings collapsed due to fire and again,they all three just happened to owned by silverstein.Major coincidence there.oh and these trolls posting here which btw just so you know,they all KNOW it was an inside job just as much as me and eots do.again they are just here to try and derail truth discussions cause thats what their handlers pay them to do so this is the wisest thing anybody can do with them.

HOLY CRAP!! Do you have that "script" written on the inside of your helmet?
Laws of physics violated?..........Fires can't cause a building to collapse?..............Free fall speed?...........Building 7 is the smoking gun?
It's obvious that you believe EVERYTHING on the internet. And that people with opinions apposing yours are trolls that KNOW the truth and are trying to cover it up.................WOW! Because the fight for "truth" is going to be won on message boards.....huh?!
You obviously have no concern with finding the "truth". Because everything that you just posted has been thoroughly discussed over the past decade. And all of it has been debunked and tossed in the garage were it belongs. Because if there was any truth to any of it, it would be the largest story in history, and the media would be falling all over themselves to get a peace of it.

 

[Light]

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? And still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

the fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

you stupid fucking ****. Fires did not bring down the towers because there were no planes.

Ha! Ha! Ha!
Earlier today I made the statement that something in another post was "the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time".
Oh boy!!.........you have now topped it!!

 

[Liability]

Planes crash into two of the largest building on Earth. Witnessed live by thousands. Recorded on videotapes for posterity. Leave gaping holes corresponding roughly with the expected imprint of planes crashing into the materials used to construct the towers. Fires and smoke issue from the buildings. Human beings fall to their deaths to escape the smoke and fires and heat. The buildings eventually collapse.

And in light of all of that, and the scientific studies establishing that it was the plane crashes that caused the holes and the fires that led to the collapses, and despite the planes having been reported as hijacked, and despite the fact that none of the folks who DID get on those flights (alive) at the time prior to their take-offs were ever found alive again (but their remains have been identified in many cases) -- nevertheless, scumbag rat fuckers like 9/11 Rimjob, id-eots and IQof7forever insist on claiming that it was all an orchestrated fraud.

Yeah.

We didn't SEE it as it happened. It was orbs. It was special effects. It was long-dormant thermite demolitions in occupied buildings.

Fucking twoofers are rancid pieces of shit. One and all of them. They need to be closely monitored.

 

[Obamerican]

but there were people in the impact hole waving for help ??? and still there is the fact of no forensic evidence of such temperatures

The fires in the building were drawing cool air from outside through the impact hole, so it's only logical that any survivors would head to the hole where the temperature would be far cooler than the fire zone.

You stupid fucking ****. Fires did not bring down the towers because there were no planes.

Look, it's Chrissy, you little fucking shit stain.

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3OEkDZTldt8]Patriots Question 9/11 - YouTube[/ame]
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report


Lt. Col. Robert Bowman, PhD, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Director of Advanced Space Programs Development under Presidents Ford and Carter. U.S. Air Force fighter pilot with over 100 combat missions. (PhD in Aeronautics and Nuclear Engineering, Cal Tech). Former Head of the Department of Aeronautical Engineering and Assistant Dean at the U.S. Air Force Institute of Technology. 22-year Air Force career. Also taught Mathematics and English at the University of Southern California, the University of Maryland, and Phillips University.
Member: Political Leaders for 9/11 Truth Association Statement:

"Scholars and professionals with various kinds of expertise---including architects, engineers, firefighters, intelligence officers, lawyers, medical professionals, military officers, philosophers, religious leaders, physical scientists, and pilots---have spoken out about radical discrepancies between the official account of the 9/11 attacks and what they, as independent researchers, have learned.

They have established beyond any reasonable doubt that the official account of 9/11 is false and that, therefore, the official “investigations” have really been cover-up operations.

I think the very kindest thing that we can say about George W. Bush and all the people in the U.S. Government that have been involved in this massive cover-up, the very kindest thing we can say is that they were aware of impending attacks and let them happen. *Now some people will say that’s much too kind, however even that is high treason and conspiracy to commit murder." *http://video.go



Raymond L. McGovern – 27-year CIA veteran. Former Chairman, National Intelligence Estimates (NIE), the consensus reports of all U.S. intelligence agencies. According to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, NIE's "are the Intelligence Community’s most authoritative written judgments on national security issues." Responsible for preparing and presenting the President’ Daily Brief (PDB) to Presidents Ronald Reagan and George H.W. Bush and for providing intelligence briefing to their Vice Presidents, Secretaries of State, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and many other senior government officials. Upon retirement in 1990, McGovern was awarded the CIA’s Intelligence Commendation Medallion and received a letter of appreciation from then-President George H. W. Bush. Former U.S. Army Intelligence Officer.

It has long been clear that the Bush-Cheney administration cynically exploited the attacks of 9/11 to promote its imperial designs. But the present volume confronts us with compelling evidence for an even more disturbing conclusion: that the 9/11 attacks were themselves orchestrated by this administration precisely so they could be thus exploited. If this is true, it is not merely the case, as the Downing Street memos show, that the stated reason for attacking Iraq was a lie. It is also the case that the whole 'war on terror' was based on a prior deception. This book hence confronts the American people---indeed the people of the world as a whole---with an issue second to none in importance and urgency. I give this book, which in no way can be dismissed as the ravings of ‘paranoid conspiracy theorists,’ my highest possible recommendation."

 

[eots]

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ek9IHY2086g]Robert Bowman - WTC 7 smoking gun - Credits - Gravel pt 8 - YouTube[/ame]

 

[eots]

Dwain Deets, MS Physics, MS Eng – Former Director, Aerospace Projects, NASA Dryden Flight Research Center. Before this appointment, he served as Director, Research Engineering Division at Dryden. Recipient of the NASA Exceptional Service Award and the Presidential Meritorious Rank Award in the Senior Executive Service (1988). Selected presenter of the Wright Brothers Lectureship in Aeronautics, a distinguished speaking engagement sponsored by the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics (AIAA) (1986). Included in "Who's Who in Science and Engineering" 1993 - 2000. Former Chairman of the Aerospace Control and Guidance Systems Committee of the Society of Automotive Engineers. Former Member, AIAA Committee on Society and Aerospace Technology. 37 year NASA career.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"The many visual images (massive structural members being hurled horizontally, huge pyroclastic clouds, etc.) leave no doubt in my mind explosives were involved [in the destruction of the World Trade Center]." AE911Truth.org


[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPqckKXn-gg]Dwain Deets in Ventura on Building 7 (Part 1 of 4).m4v - YouTube[/ame]


Signatory: Petition requesting a reinvestigation of 9/11, signed by more than 1,500 Architects and Engineers:

 

[Liability]

Derp-ideots cannot even convince folks who post at USMB that the 9/11 "investigation must be re-opened."

Making quite a dent in the whole real world, though.

Ching Chong Potato, derp-ideots.

 

[eots]

Derp-ideots cannot even convince folks who post at USMB that the 9/11 "investigation must be re-opened."

Making quite a dent in the whole real world, though.

Ching Chong Potato, derp-ideots.

thats the rebuttal to these highly qualified experts...thats the debwunkers
debwunking ??...my god what a pathetic little man you must be

 

[LA RAM FAN]

fires emitting black smoke are not serious fires and can be put out easily.

Seriously, where do you come up with this shit?

the fires where not reported to be very large by first response and eyewitnesses near the impact area .testing of the steel shows no evidence of the temp required to cause failure of structural steel

crackertroll is living in denial as usual. the trolls get taken to school as always.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

no ,they are facts ,firefighters that reached the impact zone reported small containable fires as did survivors,,,and there is no forensic evidence or testing of remaining steel that shows fires reached anything close to temperatures predicted as required for failure

We know no such thing..the forensic evidence does not indicate these temperatures existed ..there is no proof..it is the NIST collapse theory

It takes a special brand of dishonest imbecility to try to force fit into the honest scientifically based analysis your baseless rancid conspiracy horseshit.

You have a sick and twisted mind. You twoofers are dishonest fucks and pieces of shit one and all

and this is just more of your crude meaningless drivel.. that does that does nothing to address the fact that...this is the NIST theory and there is no proof it is correct

Liar ability troll taken to school as always.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

9/11: Three WTC survivors in explosive interview - YouTube

thats the other fact the agent trolls cant get around and always ignore is shortly aftert the aircraft hit the towers, a man came out of the basement elevaters yelling "explosions, explosions" and had critical severe burns on him and his co workers took him out of the basement and put him in an ambulance and was taken to the hospital.yep no explosives.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Ok, back to the OP claims.
The video shows a guy being interviewed about what he witnessed. He saw planes crash into the towers...............the resulting fires.............and then the collapse of both towers. He then makes the GIANT LEAP OF LOGIC that the crashes and fires caused the structural failure of the buildings. How is that "Proof of a Cover Story"? Anyone on those streets that day, (with 2 brain cells to rub together), made the same conclusion. Do you think that everybody witnessing this horrible event, got out their personal copy of the WTC construction plans and starting dissecting the damage to the building?!

I will agree that the guy says all this with a certain amount of arrogance in his voice...............like he knows "exactly" what happened. Then again, there are a lot of know-it-all's in the world that think they have all the answers.

NOW................if you happen to be the sole possessor of the irrefutable evidence that proves that those building came down by something other than structural failure, PLEASE post it.

for once you actually said something intelligent because yes it IS a giant leap of logic saying that the crashes and the fire caused the structural failure because again,anybody who knows anything about the laws of physics know they were violated that day,that fires dont cause buildings to collapse at free fall speed.

also you cripple your arguments here in a major way cause even if you accept the collapse of the towers then you cant explain the collapse of building 7.surely you know about that one? bld 7 is the crux of the 9/11 coverup commission you or nobody can get around because bld 7 WASNT hit by an airplane but it also collapsed and there is no logical explanation for it whatsoever because it was much further away from the other buildings even buildings next door to the towers.

the buildings much closer to the towers including its neighbors next to them were damaged far more extensively and had far more severe fires as the photos prove yet all those buildings remained standing but bld 7 collapsed.all three were owned by jew larry silverstein and all three not only collapsed in the same freefall speed the way buildings do in a controlled demolition,but they also demonstrated the same characterics.
face it,you fell for this fairy tale hook,line, and sinker and are quite one funny coincidence theorist if you still accept the version of the governments. since this was the first time in history buildings collapsed due to fire and again,they all three just happened to owned by silverstein.Major coincidence there.oh and these trolls posting here which btw just so you know,they all KNOW it was an inside job just as much as me and eots do.again they are just here to try and derail truth discussions cause thats what their handlers pay them to do so this is the wisest thing anybody can do with them.

HOLY CRAP!! Do you have that "script" written on the inside of your helmet?
Laws of physics violated?..........Fires can't cause a building to collapse?..............Free fall speed?...........Building 7 is the smoking gun?
It's obvious that you believe EVERYTHING on the internet. And that people with opinions apposing yours are trolls that KNOW the truth and are trying to cover it up.................WOW! Because the fight for "truth" is going to be won on message boards.....huh?!
You obviously have no concern with finding the "truth". Because everything that you just posted has been thoroughly discussed over the past decade. And all of it has been debunked and tossed in the garage were it belongs. Because if there was any truth to any of it, it would be the largest story in history, and the media would be falling all over themselves to get a peace of it.

No "YOU" are lying and have no interest in finding the truth,again you prove that you slept through junior high school science classes and your making up lies also because you are extremely ignorant about science,you have proven that in spades.

your lying also because unlike you,I look at opposing views and dont ignore them such as yourself and you lie as well saying i get my information from the net.again unlike you,I listen to an opposing view which is why I have read many books on it which you obviously havent. .You wouldnt know the truth if it bit you in the ass.your putting words in my mouth also.I never called you a troll,I was calling these agent trolls on my ignore list trolls who AGAIN KNOW it was an inside job .

the same ones you ignorantly listen to. and where did i say the truth would be won on a message board? you keep ignoring evidence and facts that prove you wrong because your obviously in denial and close minded and are putting words in my mouth.I never said you were a troll.I just said you were brainwashed just like "I" was at one time till unlike you,I kept an open mind and realised the facts of the case dont fit the explanation given by the government which is why there is such a huge controvery over this. not to mention that to accept the governments version,your being an idiot saying that the laws of physics no longer apply anymore,get a clue.

Im not the one being stupid ignoring what experts such as firemen,architects and engineers say and worshipping what these corrupt government instituitons such as NIST and the corporate media tell me.you are obviously dense in the fact that the media is nothing more that a TOOL for the government. bullshit as usual,it hasnt been debunked,the only thing that been debunked is your pitiful ramblings and these agents as well liar.

You are a chickenshit coward,you wont even try and address my points I brought up because you know you cant counter them.Like all Bush dupes,you have no debating skills whatsoever,you make b.s claims these points have been debunked without proving your b.s you sprout off,without addressing them.No surprise,you Bush dupes always go off on these rants and make up lies when you know you are defeated.You would be laughed out of a debating hall in five minutes with your debating skills and lose because of your failure to try and counter these facts.lol

With the help of Eots videos he posted that you ran away from,you lost this debate.You obviously have too much pride and too much arrogance to admit you are a Bush dupe who has been brainwashed and too afraid to look at the evidence as you have proven in spades here.you REALLY need to go back and take some science classes in junior high,I have had more intelligent conversations about science easily over the laws of physics with those kinds of students than I have had with you with your ignrorance you have displayed here.

they dont run away from these points and throw tantrems when defeated and are mature enough to admit so because unlike you,they are not close minded.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I'm not sure what that video is supposed to prove. The firemen only made it to lowest floor below the impact point. The dishonesty (or ignorance) of the narration is quite obvious. He takes the statement of Orio Palmer, "multiple 10-45 code 1's" and then claims that "10-45" means injured people. He leaves off the "code 1" which means DEAD.

10-45 D.O.A. OR SERIOUS INJURY
Transmitted IMMEDIATELY upon the discovery of a fatality
or serious injury at a fire or emergency. This shall be
followed as soon as possible with the appropriate Code
and the number of victims.

CODE 1 Victim Deceased

CODE 2 Victim suffering serious injury. (Apparently
life threatening)

CODE 3 Victim suffering serious injury. (Apparently
NOT life threatening.)

NOTE: Do not transmit this signal for minor
injuries.

REF. nyfd.com/radio.html



So how are there are dead people below the point of impact if the fires and damage were not severe??

At the end of the video, he makes reference to the office fire that is "said to of destroyed 110 stories of structural steel".......................REALLY!!?? Who said that!? That is not at all the official version of events. That has to be the stupidest thing I've heard in a long time. That is an extremely dishonest video and anyone who takes it for "evidence" is not looking for the TRUTH.
The truth is that these firemen made it up to the 78-79th floor, which was the lowest point of the impact. They could not precede any further due to the damage. And before they could take any action to get higher, the building collapsed............killing them. So, using there voices to try and prove a ridiculous series of events is just vile!

it would of been the explosions witnesses reported throughout the building
the vile dishonesty here is claiming temperatures existed when there is no evidence in the steel tested of such temperatures

Could that be because they didn't have EVERY SINGLE piece of steel available to them? That this wasn't an "in a perfect world" situation? Do you think they know exactly what columns were impacted by the bearing hub on the starboard engine? This was a huge catastrophe. And to assume that every detail can be found................you would have to be a "conspiracy theorist" of the most delusional level.

And sense you brought up having "no evidence", there is no evidence of bombs, C4, thermite or whatever explosive device you believe. People hearing explosions in a building that is on fire does not equal bombs. Finding physical evidence of a bomb...........equals a bomb. So how does your theory stack up against any other theory, let alone the official one?
Do you actually believe EVERY video put on YouTube!? Damn....what is the weather like on your planet?

if you knew the true facts instead of the bullshit you have been told by the media and NIST you would know this post is pure bullshit as well and that you are rambling like a fool and lying.