Promises kept and broken

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    Obama has kept a number of promises over the first few weeks, some of which I was particularly pleased to see. One that he’s broken however that pisses me off a bit is the one about curtailing lobbyist influence.

    I remember Obama taking McCain to task several times on this issue during the campaign, and was very pleased to see it, in particular in relation to healthcare.

    However, I'm less pleased to see fractures appearing in this promise. I know that there are people out there who want to defend everything Obama does, because anyone who attacks him on one point "must therefore be a Republican on all other points". Well, I'm not, and I think Obama has done a number of good things over the first 2 months of his administration. This one however, and the manner in which it is being spun, reeks of political damage limitation.

    On his first day in office, he signed an Executive Order which was largely aligned with the promise he had made (see link above).

    BUT...there was a get out of jail free card hidden in the XO, termed a "Waiver" in the language used (Section 3 of the XO)

    Executive Order - Ethics Commitments

    Essentially the waiver says the administration can appoint anyone if blocking their appointment would be inconsistent with the purposes of the restriction, or not in the public interest. That's a pretty damn wide waiver. Anyone with an ounce of common sense could drive a coach and horses right through the middle of it without touching the sides.

    And it appears that the waiver is being used.
    • William J. Lynn, a former Raytheon lobbyist, was appointed Deputy Defense Secretary (with a waiver).
    • Jocelyn Frye, who is now director of policy and projects in the Office of the First Lady, previously lobbied for National Partnership for Women and Families (with a waiver).
    • Cecilia Muñoz, now director of intergovernmental affairs in the Executive Office of the President, and the administration's principal liaison to the Hispanic community, formerly lobbied for National Council of La Raza, a Hispanic civil rights and advocacy organization (with a waiver).
    More worrying even than these are the stories that some lobbyists are getting in through the back door (i.e. without a waiver of any kind), if they simply "recuse" themselves (i.e. promise not to get involved with stuff they've been lobbying about).

    I've included some links to stories related to both these points below.

    Obama finds room for lobbyists - Kenneth P. Vogel and Mike Allen - Politico.com
    Political Punch: President's Nominee for Trade Rep, a Lobbyist in 2008, to Take Advantage of Loophole in Anti-Lobbyist Regs
    National Journal Magazine - Former Lobbyists Join Obama
    TheHill.com - Lobbyists slipping into Obama administration
    Likely Justice Department nominee faces ethics hurdle - Los Angeles Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/10/us/politics/10frye.html?_r=1

    Now, it may be that this is a storm in a teacup (as we say in England). However, my issue is with lack of transparency. A promise was made during the election campaign, and it is being deliberately circumvented. Even worse, this maneuver is being given a veneer of legitimacy by the use of White House Counsels to certify that hirings are in the public interest.

    This is not the change we needed. This, in my view, is the same shit as before, just done with a bit more guile.

    I don't particularly have a problem with hiring lobbyists - in fact I think Obama was a bit naive to think he could do without them, but then again he hasn't been an elected politician for very long so I can perhaps excuse that to a point. What I do have a problem with is him changing his mind (or someone else changing it for him) and then trying to limit the damage by coming up with plausible rationales rather than just being honest about it.

    Maybe it wasn't him being naive. Maybe it was me for hoping that we'd actually have a politician who would stick to his promises or be honest about why he couldn't. But I can't help remembering that he said we should hold him accountable.

    And before the Republicans pile on, let's remember this didn't start with Obama. That would be a bit pot/kettle.
     
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    I believe the term is 'feet of clay.'
     
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    No way that revolving door is every going to close.

    In order to be expert enough to be involved in these offices, either in the public or private sector, one has to have SOME experience.

    I am NOT trying to justify this, in fact I hate it.

    But that is how and why it keeps happening.

    There is a LOT more RAW talent out there than billets for that talent to do what they're capable of doing.

    But even the potentially talented really need some hands on experience before they can do these jobs and fill these positions.

    Hlf the people writing on this board are probably intelligent enough to be a Senator, but there's only 100 of those positions available.

    Know what I mean?

    When power and powerful positions are so limited, but people capable of doing those positions is not, what matters isn't so much are you capable of doing the job? but who do you know that will help you get that position?

    This is why in many cases, the same families are found in positions of power generation after generation in American history.

    They're not THAT much more talented, but they ARE that much better connected.

    Is this really news to anyone?
     
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    actually there are certain websites that monitor things like promises kept and broken, like the one in my sig for example: http://politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/

    according to politifact he has only broken 3 promises and kept 19 promises so far, I think he s doing good so far (in general).
     
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    Couldn't agree more. I just want transparency.
     
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    I was only aware of 2 of the lobbyists when I started looking into this, but I did get the name of the 3rd initially from Politifact - some of their content turned up in the searches I was doing. I also noticed they had this very point listed as a broken promise (which was nice because I thought I might be barking up the wrong tree).

    And you're right, it is a very good site, with a huge number of links used to substantiate its content. It also appears to be a relatively impartial, which makes a change.
     
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    You want more than just transparency

    You want influence!!

    That is why Washington is flooded with lobbyists. To gain influence over the people that make the laws. You will never get rid of them. In fact, you wish you had a team of them that worked for you!!
     
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    Lobbyists are not inherently bad.

    I think they should be allowed to lobby but to give NO fucking money except as a citizen.
     
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    Thanks for the definition. And there was me thinking it was a euphemism for people who breed Golden Retrievers.

    This may surprise you, but you don't actually know me better than I know myself. No, I don't want influence. I'm quite happy being who I am (a relatively insignificant individual). What I do want - in case the earlier posts didn't make it clear enough - is transparency about who has influence and what baggage they are carrying.
     
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