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Progressives vs. Homeschooling
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They are afraid of the school contradicting their indoctrinationConservatives are worried sick about political indoctrination through the public school system. That's a strawman, but it serves those challenged by curiosity well.
I'm more concerned that the quality of education is limited by the parent's ability to actually teach. I am concerned that a child who may be a science prodigy will be stunted by the parent's inability to teach. I'm concerned that kids who do not socialize with other kids will become warped individuals. And I am concerned that the curriculum might include mythology in lieu of science.
Can't have them learn'n about that evolution stuff
Oooo...you poor thing!
At your age, reading carefully is quite the chore.
Here it is again:
"...concern about “the environment of other schools” has supplanted religion as the Number One reason given for homeschooling, according to the DOE survey.
Ninety-one percent of homeschooling parents cited school environment as at least a contributing factor.
...urbanites choose homeschooling for various reasons, though dissatisfaction with the quality and content of instruction at local public schools heads the list.
.... even after more than a decade of aggressive education-reform efforts, the “decent public school” remains a rarity in New York and in other American cities."
See....it's based on how poor a job you Liberals have done in running the schools.
Why do parents homeschool?
1. They want the best possible education for their child
2. They don't want their child in the same school with.......blacks, Hispanics, poor whites, Jews, Muslims.......
3. School interferes with their bible teaching
4. School will interfere with their hatred of blacks, gays, atheists, liberals
We all know it isn't number 1 don't we?
You truly are a slow learner...
.... concern about“the environment of other schools” has supplanted religion as the Number One reason given for homeschooling,according to the DOE survey.
Ninety-one percent of homeschooling parents cited school environment as at least a contributing factor.
...urbanites choose homeschooling for various reasons, thoughdissatisfaction with the quality and content of instruction at local public schools heads the list.
.... even after more than a decade of aggressive education-reform efforts,the “decent public school” remains a rarity in New York and in other American cities.With urban public schools inadequate or worse and quality private schools often financially out of reach, “homeschooling becomes an interesting study in school choice,” observes Brian Ray, founder of theNational Home Education Research Institute(NEHRI) in Portland, Oregon.
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No, it isn't....unless you believe that children are the government's possessions.
Okay so you're for eliminating compulsory education, and eliminating all laws regulating schools.
Insane.
I'm for vouchers.
You're for indoctrination centers.
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You can't mention her family.
Why?
She doesn't believe in Global warming and do you think she is giving a balanced approach to that to her kids...
She continiously lies about liberals and actually shown little understand of what 'Democratic Socialism' is...
This is getting taught to the kids... Do the kids have a right to be protected?
"...She continiously (sic) lies about liberals..."
Produce one.
Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots: in the Original post.
Where did Obama say that about kids.
Then again:
Preliminary Data on Homeschool Child Fatalities
Our preliminary research suggests that homeschooled children are at a greater risk of dying from child abuse than are traditionally schooled children. This preliminary finding is based on an analysis of the cases in our Homeschooling’s Invisible Children (HIC) database and on national government reports on child maltreatment. When we compare the rate of child abuse fatalities among homeschooled families to the rate of child abuse fatalities overall, we see a higher rate of death due to abuse or neglect among homeschooled students than we do among children of the same age overall.
Homeschooling s Invisible Children Shining a Light on Abuse and Neglect in Homeschooling Environments
HAHAHAHAHA what loon site did you dig that shit up from? Here is the bottom line, it's none of you or any other dumbass loon's business where someone educates their child. Fact....deal
Actually by law it's very much other people's business where you educate your children.
No it's not, stop being stupid
NYcarbineer
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Why?
She doesn't believe in Global warming and do you think she is giving a balanced approach to that to her kids...
She continiously lies about liberals and actually shown little understand of what 'Democratic Socialism' is...
This is getting taught to the kids... Do the kids have a right to be protected?
"...She continiously (sic) lies about liberals..."
Produce one.
Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots: in the Original post.
Where did Obama say that about kids.
Then again:
Preliminary Data on Homeschool Child Fatalities
Our preliminary research suggests that homeschooled children are at a greater risk of dying from child abuse than are traditionally schooled children. This preliminary finding is based on an analysis of the cases in our Homeschooling’s Invisible Children (HIC) database and on national government reports on child maltreatment. When we compare the rate of child abuse fatalities among homeschooled families to the rate of child abuse fatalities overall, we see a higher rate of death due to abuse or neglect among homeschooled students than we do among children of the same age overall.
Homeschooling s Invisible Children Shining a Light on Abuse and Neglect in Homeschooling Environments
HAHAHAHAHA what loon site did you dig that shit up from? Here is the bottom line, it's none of you or any other dumbass loon's business where someone educates their child. Fact....deal
Actually by law it's very much other people's business where you educate your children.
No it's not, stop being stupid
You're not aware that we have compulsory education in this country?
lol, whoa.
NYcarbineer
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How about in the interests of fairness we just put all sorts of onerous requirements on homeschoolers the way some states have been doing to abortion providers.
What's a parent to do?
Don't want your kid to hear about other religions or go to school with Jews or Muslims? Homeschool
Don't want your daughter associating with negroes? Homeschool
Don't want your child to learn that being homosexual is not the end of the world? Homeschool
Don't wan tyour child learn'n them liberal ide and they can bairly add and subtract.as? Homeschool
Afraid your child may learn about sex from other children? Homeschool
Don't want to vaccinate your child? Homeschool
Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
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What's a parent to do?
Don't want your kid to hear about other religions or go to school with Jews or Muslims? Homeschool
Don't want your daughter associating with negroes? Homeschool
Don't want your child to learn that being homosexual is not the end of the world? Homeschool
Don't wan tyour child learn'n them liberal ide and they can bairly add and subtract.as? Homeschool
Afraid your child may learn about sex from other children? Homeschool
Don't want to vaccinate your child? Homeschool
Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
Maybe that's why he voted for this guy....
"Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags'"
Bill Clinton on Obama A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags The Weekly Standard
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How about in the interests of fairness we just put all sorts of onerous requirements on homeschoolers the way some states have been doing to abortion providers.
So....in what passes for a mind, you equate educating one's child with killing an unborn human being?
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What's a parent to do?
Don't want your kid to hear about other religions or go to school with Jews or Muslims? Homeschool
Don't want your daughter associating with negroes? Homeschool
Don't want your child to learn that being homosexual is not the end of the world? Homeschool
Don't wan tyour child learn'n them liberal ide and they can bairly add and subtract.as? Homeschool
Afraid your child may learn about sex from other children? Homeschool
Don't want to vaccinate your child? Homeschool
Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
They have expanded their list of who to isolate their children from
Used to be negroes...now it's Hispanics, Jews, Muslims, gays, poor whites
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How about in the interests of fairness we just put all sorts of onerous requirements on homeschoolers the way some states have been doing to abortion providers.
So....in what passes for a mind, you equate educating one's child with killing an unborn human being?
It drives them to the point of insanity parents refuse to send their kids to be indoctrinated. To a leftist the child belongs to the state
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What's a parent to do?
Don't want your kid to hear about other religions or go to school with Jews or Muslims? Homeschool
Don't want your daughter associating with negroes? Homeschool
Don't want your child to learn that being homosexual is not the end of the world? Homeschool
Don't wan tyour child learn'n them liberal ide and they can bairly add and subtract.as? Homeschool
Afraid your child may learn about sex from other children? Homeschool
Don't want to vaccinate your child? Homeschool
Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
Maybe that's why he voted for this guy....
"Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags'"
Bill Clinton on Obama A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags The Weekly Standard
Clinton was right......that was the country we lived in not too long ago. Wasn't that long ago that if a black man wanted to be in the White House......he better polish the silver
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As long as conservatives agree that we should hold homeschool teachers to exactly the same kind of stringent standards that conservatives consistently demand we hold public school teachers to,
I don't see any problem with homeschooling.
Why?
Homeschool parents do a better job than government school employees.
10. "Some critics claim that homeschooled kids won’t be prepared to do college-level work, but available data suggest otherwise.
In 2009, NEHRI’s Ray looked at the standardized test results of 12,000 homeschoolers from all 50 states, as well as Guam and Puerto Rico. He found that homeschoolers scored 34–39 percentile points above the norm on the California Achievement Test, the Iowa Test of Basic Skills, and the Stanford Achievement Test.
A recent study published in The Journal of College Admission found that homeschooled students had higher composite ACT scores than their non-homeschooled peers and graduated college at higher rates—66.7 percent, compared with 57.5 percent.
“In recent years, we’ve admitted ten or 12 homeschooled students” per year, says Marlyn McGrath, admissions director at Harvard, where each class numbers about 1,600.
Other skeptics, still focused on socialization, warn that homeschoolers may have trouble in the less structured environment of college life. .... Not true, says Celine Cammarata, a 25-year-old graduate of the William E. Macaulay Honors College at the City University of New York. A native of Greenwich Village, Cammarata was unschooled. She never wrote a paper or took a test before sitting for the SATs at age 15. It was her traditionally schooled peers, she says, who found freshman year so challenging. “A lot of kids struggled with the autonomy they were given. I was already used to taking care of my own education, so it was less of a big transition for me,” she says." Homeschooling in the City by Matthew Hennessey City Journal Summer 2015
So....a modern choice for schooling of American children:
a. make certain they become Lock-Step Liberals, the aim of Progressives...
or
b. more skilled, and better prepared intellectually, given free choice in their education: homeschool (opposed by the Obamunists) or voucher (opposed by the same).
Remember that choice when you vote.
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What's a parent to do?
Don't want your kid to hear about other religions or go to school with Jews or Muslims? Homeschool
Don't want your daughter associating with negroes? Homeschool
Don't want your child to learn that being homosexual is not the end of the world? Homeschool
Don't wan tyour child learn'n them liberal ide and they can bairly add and subtract.as? Homeschool
Afraid your child may learn about sex from other children? Homeschool
Don't want to vaccinate your child? Homeschool
Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
Maybe that's why he voted for this guy....
"Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags'"
Bill Clinton on Obama A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags The Weekly Standard
Clinton was right......that was the country we lived in not too long ago. Wasn't that long ago that if a black man wanted to be in the White House......he better polish the silver
So you voted for...not only a rapist....
....but a dyed in the wool racist who supported segregation his entire life.
Finally...an honest post from you.
PC,
If you are any example how you are educating your kids then I fear for them. You cite evidence with refering.. You riducule people who look at sduies of evidence...
Sorry, but you are joke and your kids (the innocent ones) deserve better than you as a teacher.
You are probably giving them a daily diet of conspiracy theories & non scietific manure to digest...
Poor kids are growing in a world full of hate and mistrust.
This is where I wonder what are the rights of the child?
You can't mention her family.
Why?
She doesn't believe in Global warming and do you think she is giving a balanced approach to that to her kids...
She continiously lies about liberals and actually shown little understand of what 'Democratic Socialism' is...
This is getting taught to the kids... Do the kids have a right to be protected?
"...She continiously (sic) lies about liberals..."
Produce one.
Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots: in the Original post.
Where did Obama say that about kids.
Then again:
Preliminary Data on Homeschool Child Fatalities
Our preliminary research suggests that homeschooled children are at a greater risk of dying from child abuse than are traditionally schooled children. This preliminary finding is based on an analysis of the cases in our Homeschooling’s Invisible Children (HIC) database and on national government reports on child maltreatment. When we compare the rate of child abuse fatalities among homeschooled families to the rate of child abuse fatalities overall, we see a higher rate of death due to abuse or neglect among homeschooled students than we do among children of the same age overall.
Homeschooling s Invisible Children Shining a Light on Abuse and Neglect in Homeschooling Environments
HAHAHAHAHA what loon site did you dig that shit up from? Here is the bottom line, it's none of you or any other dumbass loon's business where someone educates their child. Fact....deal
That's close to what the those abusers say too...
Truth is a lot of child abuse is picked up in school.
You are saying the rights of Parents superseed the rights of the child. I am not saying Home Schooling is wrong, I am saying that it has to be done to a standard.
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Why should anyone agree to that, because the teachers union doesn't want competition?As long as conservatives agree that we should hold homeschool teachers to exactly the same kind of stringent standards that conservatives consistently demand we hold public school teachers to,
I don't see any problem with homeschooling.
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Oddly, you don't even mention actual education... that's the issue here, people are sick of sending their kids off to school and having them learning about Jews, Muslims, Homosexuality and whatnot and then they can barely add and subtract.
I remember when I went to school 50 years ago
Parents in our neighborhood would brag how they send their kids to Catholic school because they wanted them to receive a "good catholic education"
When I talked to the kids they would say their parents didn't want them to go to my school because there are negroes there
So you lived half a century ago....somewhere up north no doubt....with a lot of racists.
What does that have to do with now?
Maybe that's why he voted for this guy....
"Bill Clinton on Obama: 'A Few Years Ago, This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags'"
Bill Clinton on Obama A Few Years Ago This Guy Would Have Been Carrying Our Bags The Weekly Standard
Clinton was right......that was the country we lived in not too long ago. Wasn't that long ago that if a black man wanted to be in the White House......he better polish the silver
So you voted for...not only a rapist....
....but a dyed in the wool racist who supported segregation his entire life.
Finally...an honest post from you.
Where would you be without conspiracy theories?
You couldn't post could ya?
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In other words, it's anti-capitalist propaganda. Why should ant student in a public school be exposed to that?Excellent video and teaching tool. It isn't about socialism however. It is about the effects of unregulated or controlled capitalism.
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You mean truly brainwashed people tend to be progressive.Truly educated people tend to be progressive leaning, and most vote Democratic. Can't have that, can we?
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You can't mention her family.
Why?
She doesn't believe in Global warming and do you think she is giving a balanced approach to that to her kids...
She continiously lies about liberals and actually shown little understand of what 'Democratic Socialism' is...
This is getting taught to the kids... Do the kids have a right to be protected?
"...She continiously (sic) lies about liberals..."
Produce one.
Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots: in the Original post.
Where did Obama say that about kids.
Then again:
Preliminary Data on Homeschool Child Fatalities
Our preliminary research suggests that homeschooled children are at a greater risk of dying from child abuse than are traditionally schooled children. This preliminary finding is based on an analysis of the cases in our Homeschooling’s Invisible Children (HIC) database and on national government reports on child maltreatment. When we compare the rate of child abuse fatalities among homeschooled families to the rate of child abuse fatalities overall, we see a higher rate of death due to abuse or neglect among homeschooled students than we do among children of the same age overall.
Homeschooling s Invisible Children Shining a Light on Abuse and Neglect in Homeschooling Environments
HAHAHAHAHA what loon site did you dig that shit up from? Here is the bottom line, it's none of you or any other dumbass loon's business where someone educates their child. Fact....deal
That's close to what the those abusers say too...
Truth is a lot of child abuse is picked up in school.
You are saying the rights of Parents superseed the rights of the child. I am not saying Home Schooling is wrong, I am saying that it has to be done to a standard.
I know plenty of home schooled children, I know literally hundreds of private school children and I know a lot of children educated in public schools and there is no doubt the private schooled and home schooled children are for the most part far and above their peers in public schools. They get more attention, their teachers are passionate and the class sizes are manageable. The biggest thing going for them is there is no Common Core, that is a disaster
Don't worry how we choose to educate our children....again, it's none of your business
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