Progressives vs. Homeschooling

[PoliticalChic]

1. Every variation of totalitarian thought is based on the central theme of an all-encompassing state that centralizes power.
Just as that description applies to Nazism, socialism, communism, it is a gross error to imagine that Progressivism is based on any other desire.

To accomplish said aim, no departure from the orthodoxy of Progressivism can be allowed.


Progressive Woodrow Wilson succinctly explained how it must be done: : “Our problem is not merely to help students to adjust to themselves to world life…[but] to make them as unlike their fathers as we can.”
Michael McGerr, “A Fierce Discontent: The Rise and Fall of the Progressive Movement in America, 1870-1920,” p. 111


2. And here is Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots:

"U.S. President Barack Obama gives the commencement address to the graduating class of The Ohio State University at Ohio Stadium on May 5, 2013 in Columbus, Ohio.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted."
Obama To Grads Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny RealClearPolitics



3. The rejection of the Progressive's attempts to force American children into the politically correct mold is one of the factors that has given rise to the increase in homeschooling.....and Progressives have on intention of taking this development lying down.

"Eric Holder: Banning Homeschooling Doesn’t Violate Fundamental Rights" Eric Holder Banning Homeschooling Doesn t Violate Fundamental Rights Caffeinated Thoughts



4. " While homeschooling has become more mainstream in recent years, it remains in the eyes of its critics a threat to public schools, public health—and even democracy itself. Social welfare officials and local politicians in some states have subjected homeschooling families to treatment bordering on harassment. Homeschooling in the City by Matthew Hennessey City Journal Summer 2015




Progressive's support for diversity is 100%.....unless diversity actually appears.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

1. Every variation of totalitarian thought is based on the central theme of an all-encompassing state that centralizes power.
Just as that description applies to Nazism, socialism, communism, it is a gross error to imagine that Progressivism is based on any other desire......

So, you were homeschooled yourself?

 

[PoliticalChic]

1. Every variation of totalitarian thought is based on the central theme of an all-encompassing state that centralizes power.
Just as that description applies to Nazism, socialism, communism, it is a gross error to imagine that Progressivism is based on any other desire......

So, you were homeschooled yourself?

No.
My children are.

Why do you ask?

 

[CrusaderFrank]

God bless you, PC

My sons are both very liberal and I stopped trying to argue. I left them with the statement that they're both on their way to becoming 1%ers and asked if they thought they were the problem and they should pay more because the classmates they left behind academically couldn't keep up

 

[PoliticalChic]

God bless you, PC

My sons are both very liberal and I stopped trying to argue. I left them with the statement that they're both on their way to becoming 1%ers and asked if they thought they were the problem and they should pay more because the classmates they left behind academically couldn't keep up

I hope you reconsider "I stopped trying to argue."

I've seen your posts...and I know that somewhere inside the boys must know that you are correct.
It's the battles that they'd have to fight that gives them pause.

In the marketplace of ideas....we conservatives eat their, the Liberal's, lunch.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

No.
My children are.

Why do you ask?

Just curious as to why someone would think that sending children to school equals nazism

 

[PoliticalChic]

No.
My children are.

Why do you ask?

Just curious as to why someone would think that sending children to school equals nazism

See....now you've proven what a dolt you are, lacking the ability to comprehend standard English.

I never said "sending children to school equals nazism."

Let me guess: you're a grad of government schooling.

 

[Jantje_Smit]

See....now you've proven what a dolt you are, lacking the ability to comprehend standard English.

I never said "sending children to school equals nazism."

Let me guess: you're a grad of government schooling.

Sorry, my bad

Every variation of totalitarian thought is based on the central theme of an all-encompassing state that centralizes power.
Just as that description applies to Nazism, socialism, communism, it is a gross error to imagine that Progressivism is based on any other desire.

I got the impression that you thought government schools brainwash children with totalitarian thought, just like the nazis, commies etc. but apparently I missed something.

And, you're right, I'm government schooled

 

[PoliticalChic]

5. It is well known that Liberals and Progressives snap to attention when they hear the phrase 'studies show.....", as it relieves them of the burden of actually thinking.

Having control of both academia and the education industry has proven to be quite a boon to Progressives/totalitarians, as they are free to say "studies show," and are able to advance all sorts of fables about anything that stands in their way of total control.....



a. "Critics of homeschooling have support in academia. Stanford University political scientist Rob Reich has argued for tighter regulation of homeschooling to ensure that “children are exposed to and engaged with ideas, values, and beliefs that are different from those of the parents.”

[...especially important as the parents, older and wiser, might recognize the evils of totalitarianism.]


b. Georgetown Law School professor Robin L. West laments the “virtually unfettered authority” that state laws afford homeschoolers. She worries that homeschooled children grow up to become right-wing political “soldiers,” eager to “undermine, limit, or destroy state functions.”
city-journal, Op. Cit.

[I can attest to the fact that NY laws do not "afford homeschoolers virtually unfettered authority."]



Did I mention that neither freedom nor liberty are part of the Progressive agenda?

 

[PoliticalChic]

See....now you've proven what a dolt you are, lacking the ability to comprehend standard English.

I never said "sending children to school equals nazism."

Let me guess: you're a grad of government schooling.

Sorry, my bad

Every variation of totalitarian thought is based on the central theme of an all-encompassing state that centralizes power.
Just as that description applies to Nazism, socialism, communism, it is a gross error to imagine that Progressivism is based on any other desire.

I got the impression that you thought government schools brainwash children with totalitarian thought, just like the nazis, commies etc. but apparently I missed something.

And, you're right, I'm government schooled

Actually, I'm right about everything I post.....

...especially this: "government schools brainwash children with totalitarian thought."

You wrote this about yourself: "Member of the Politburo."

Perhaps you meant ...'burro."


So, you believe in 'man-made global warming, with only global governance standing between us an disaster.'

 

[NYcarbineer]

2. And here is Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots:

"U.S. President Barack Obama gives the commencement address to the graduating class of The Ohio State University at Ohio Stadium on May 5, 2013 in Columbus, Ohio.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted."
Obama To Grads Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny RealClearPolitics



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..statist robots...?

Unsurprisingly, President Obama says nothing of the sort in the quote.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. And here is Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots:

"U.S. President Barack Obama gives the commencement address to the graduating class of The Ohio State University at Ohio Stadium on May 5, 2013 in Columbus, Ohio.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted."
Obama To Grads Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny RealClearPolitics



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..statist robots...?

Unsurprisingly, President Obama says nothing of the sort in the quote.

So THAT'S why you're know as NYLiar!

 

[NYcarbineer]

2. And here is Obama, endorsing the same view, that children must be turned into statist robots:

"U.S. President Barack Obama gives the commencement address to the graduating class of The Ohio State University at Ohio Stadium on May 5, 2013 in Columbus, Ohio.

PRESIDENT OBAMA: Unfortunately, you've grown up hearing voices that incessantly warn of government as nothing more than some separate, sinister entity that's at the root of all our problems. Some of these same voices also do their best to gum up the works. They'll warn that tyranny always lurking just around the corner. You should reject these voices. Because what they suggest is that our brave, and creative, and unique experiment in self-rule is somehow just a sham with which we can't be trusted."
Obama To Grads Reject Voices That Warn About Government Tyranny RealClearPolitics



.

..statist robots...?

Unsurprisingly, President Obama says nothing of the sort in the quote.

So THAT'S why you're know as NYLiar!

Cite the portion of the quote that definitively asserts that children must be turned into statist robots.

 

[NYcarbineer]

As long as conservatives agree that we should hold homeschool teachers to exactly the same kind of stringent standards that conservatives consistently demand we hold public school teachers to,

I don't see any problem with homeschooling.

 

[Camp]

All teachers and teaching institutions inflict influence on students. It is natural and expected. That includes parents teaching their own children. The chances of a student escaping from the primary influence and experimenting or researching alternate opinions is magnified by the numbers of other students and teachers they are exposed to. The least rounded and free thinking students will always be the ones who have the same teachers year after year and have limited access to differing views or experiencing group problem solving or learning environments, i.e., home schooling.

 

[PoliticalChic]

All teachers and teaching institutions inflict influence on students. It is natural and expected. That includes parents teaching their own children. The chances of a student escaping from the primary influence and experimenting or researching alternate opinions is magnified by the numbers of other students and teachers they are exposed to. The least rounded and free thinking students will always be the ones who have the same teachers year after year and have limited access to differing views or experiencing group problem solving or learning environments, i.e., home schooling.

Here is the socialist indoctrination that Liberal's 'inflict.'



From the Youtube page:
" Tides Foundation, funded by George "Spooky Guy" Soros created this little gem to indoctrinate our Children about the horrors of Capitalism, and how we're raping the Earth every second."


So as to prove that you aren't a socialist propagandists, please provide similar reinforcement of capitalism shown in grade school.

 

[Camp]

Excellent video and teaching tool. It isn't about socialism however. It is about the effects of unregulated or controlled capitalism.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Excellent video and teaching tool. It isn't about socialism however. It is about the effects of unregulated or controlled capitalism.

Liar.

And, duly noted, you could not produce any conservative indoctrination.

You've served your purpose.

 

[EricJ]

Truly educated people tend to be progressive leaning, and most vote Democratic. Can't have that, can we?

 

[G.T.]

And since children are homeschooled they are likewise being indoctrinated. But, best to be indoctrinated by loony wingnuts who spends hours on end typing hateful partisan diatribes on the internet.