Professor spends $1,000 to challenge $45 speeding ticket

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    Associated Press
    Jul. 11, 2005 08:20 AM

    LAWRENCE, Kan. - Zamir Bavel is spending a lot of money to fight a $45 speeding ticket.

    The University of Kansas computer science professor says there's a principle at stake. So far, he's dropped about a thousand bucks contesting the ticket.

    He objects to the fact that officers in Lawrence and Larned aren't required to take any special classes in operating the radar speed guns. Such classes are recommended by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration but are not required by law.

    Bavel contends the speed gun that nabbed him may not have been operated correctly. His trial in district court is scheduled to continue today. He says he'll take his speeding case all the way to the Kansas Supreme Court if necessary.


    http://www.azcentral.com/offbeat/articles/0711radartraining-ON.html
     
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    He must have failed economics 101...it is nice to state your point on principle...but then again there is a point when economics comes into play...if it were a life/death situation I would agree...however it was a traffic ticket for Gods sake...if ya lose on the initial hearing...give it a rest and go on with your life...geez! :cheers2:
     
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    Maybe he stands to be dropped from his insurance for too many tickets?
     
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    We all know it takes years of intense training to operate a point an click radar speed gun!
    And those nasty sneaky cops hide under bridges an behind stuff to catch ya speeding too!
    There should be a law against the guys enforcing the law!! It just ain't "FAIR"! :cry:
    LMAO!!!I wonder where he got his training?
     
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    Maybe he should rethink his driving habits...if ya play ya must pay...enough said!
     
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    To be fair, this guy (and his lawyer, assuming he has one) has not researched the early 90s case about the guy from Palm Springs that spent about 250K on his ticket (he won, who cares, 250K to him is like a quarter to us). Nonetheless, the ruling was the radars are not scientifically accurate, enough so to give a ticket.

    This guy was just trying to make a point. He failed. In that district. Give another districts ruling and then you to "appellate." And so forth.


    Btw, the radars "may" be acceptable "scientific" evidence, they are still only that: acceptable. Not conclusive.
     
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    however if it cost one $250.000.00 to beat a $45.00 ticket whats the point...

    I am all for principle when it fits the punishment...however if one slows down....then the point becomes a moot one....case solved!
     
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    I don't care how much money I have, $250,000.00 compared to $45.00?

    Please.

    No Brainer.
     
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    If i had the cash, i would fight it on the grounds that speeding tickets are unconstituional. Laws are supposed to be made to PROTECT the people. Speeding hasnt been conclusively proven to cause anymore accidents then regular driving does. We have accidents everyday and most are from bad driving. Changing lanes too fast, stopping too sudden, driving TOO SLOW in faster lanes, etc. Speeding in and of itself does not cause accidents.

    The real reason for speeding tickets is too increase revenue for local governments. Why do you think cops are given "quotas" on ticket numbers for the month? They have to meet these quotas since it is a main source of revenue for a number of local municipalities. When brought to court, the officer either pleads you down to no-points and pay the fine or if they feel like messing with you, go through with the hearing. The judge understands the whole revenue thing and rarely overturns a ticket knowing that the money goes into his/her paycheck. The problem is that there are TOO MANY COPS!

    Sure thats a terrible thing to say. "We always need more cops." At least thats what local and state governments always tell us. We need more cops. To do what? Hand out more tickets? The only areas that need more cops are urban areas. Suburbs and rural areas DO NOT NEED more cops. That just increases the local budget by another $60k-90k a year per cop therefore leading to more mandatory traffic tickets. ITs a nice scam that the lawabiding citizens get screwed on. We pay local taxes, state taxes, property taxes and then we have to pay these tickets for going 35 in a 25. F'd in everyway are we.
     
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    Oh, good grief.. The cops don't typically pull you over unless you're doing 10 miles or more over the speed limit.. If you're driving fast enough to get pulled over, suck it up and pay the ticket.

    -The Voice Of Experience.

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