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The tragic irony of shutting them down is that the alternative is so much worse. Because the alternative has been prison and homelessness. Which one liberal poster here has not minded too much, anyway.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I'm for bringing back Mental Hospitals almost exactly like they were. No shock therapy and abuse, though.
A sizable chunk of what goes to the jails/prisons could be used for it, because they're there anyway.
Crazy covers a lot. You can have a harmless psychotic, a homicidal maniac, and a lightbulb whisperer, they all need to be in different wards. Right now they're just all in jail. Mental Hospitals worked well for around a century or more.
The tragic irony of shutting them down is that the alternative is so much worse. Because the alternative has been prison and homelessness. Which one liberal poster here has not minded too much, anyway.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
, so would be it ok if he beat the living bejeezes out of someone else.because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
, so would be it ok if he beat the living bejeezes out of someone else.because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
, so would be it ok if he beat the living bejeezes out of someone else.because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her
If he was in a group home there would be staff available that had training.
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
, so would be it ok if he beat the living bejeezes out of someone else.because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her
If he was in a group home there would be staff available that had training.
He sounds like a threat to others, so a group home where others are is not a good thing. What criteria is that?
Completely different issues although there may be some overlap.I'm for bringing back Mental Hospitals almost exactly like they were. No shock therapy and abuse, though.
A sizable chunk of what goes to the jails/prisons could be used for it, because they're there anyway.
Crazy covers a lot. You can have a harmless psychotic, a homicidal maniac, and a lightbulb whisperer, they all need to be in different wards. Right now they're just all in jail. Mental Hospitals worked well for around a century or more.
The tragic irony of shutting them down is that the alternative is so much worse. Because the alternative has been prison and homelessness. Which one liberal poster here has not minded too much, anyway.
So you are just being selfish, you do not want any kids in your class that are disorderly. I have a niece in law and she has a masters (daddy paid for her school) and she has classes of broken home kids (she continually bitches about them, yet she makes big bucks), see you need to go back to childhood with most of these kids.
A group home is an excellent thing. He would have the routine that he needs, he would have access to medical care, routine check ups, medication and more freedom than a psych ward or prison would have. He would have meals that are prepared for him because he can't do that on his own. When melt downs occur there are staff available that are trained to restrain without harming him.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
Are you aware of what group homes are, They are state run, they house autism, PKU's, Downs, etc. If they become a danger to others, its time to lock them up. The GOP and Trump is working to cut funding for Medicaid in every state.
Not all of them are state run. It depends on the state. Further, you don't want these people in prison and had there been available resources prison may have been avoided to begin with.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
Are you aware of what group homes are, They are state run, they house autism, PKU's, Downs, etc. If they become a danger to others, its time to lock them up. The GOP and Trump is working to cut funding for Medicaid in every state.
Not all of them are state run. It depends on the state. Further, you don't want these people in prison and had there been available resources prison may have been avoided to begin with.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
Are you aware of what group homes are, They are state run, they house autism, PKU's, Downs, etc. If they become a danger to others, its time to lock them up. The GOP and Trump is working to cut funding for Medicaid in every state.
Not all of them are state run. It depends on the state. Further, you don't want these people in prison and had there been available resources prison may have been avoided to begin with.
I misspoke, most are county run. I know I worked in them for a couple years while in school. No real training and the home owners as well. I worked with Alzheimer's Downs and Autism (many variables , some severe to minimally affected). They needed to be watched every minute, and I worked in several, from only 2 residents to 6. One made me very nervous, the PKU guy, tall and strong, he use to get very agitated. The families mainly gave them over to the ward of the state.
Group home - Wikipedia
they mainly rely on Medicaid funding and Trump and the GOP are making it less available.
Joe, you bore the hell out of me with your nonsensical shit. We aren't doing this.
This is a nationwide problem.
It not my problem you can't get your free meds..
I don't need meds. I've been working with the mentally ill since 2006. Welcome to ignore.
Thank you so much for weighing in on this thread. I hope you will hang in there because I really value your input.
I have been a public school teacher since the early 90s. If you haven't yet heard, take it from me--the stuff we are seeing EVERYwhere now...we can hardly believe it. Children running out of schools left and right. Total meltdowns. Crises everywhere. Behavioral, mental, you name it. It's an epidemic. We have to think of this now because in a few years.....
Yes that is with the advent of private schools and home schooling and now with Devos and Trump in charge, say goodbye to the public schools, they let the public schools go to the ruin. They raise our taxes every year and use the money elsewhere.
I am for getting rid of private and religious schools and you should be too.
The time is coming, and soon, when we are going to have to decide if we want prisons to house our critically mentally ill, or if we want psychiatric hospitals and long-term care facilities to do it.
We are doing the best we can in the K-12 schools with the explosion--and I do mean explosion--of mental, emotional, and behavioral issues in the last 5-10 years. But we can barely keep a lid on all that's going on, and if we had anything like a real media in this nation, you would be hearing about the violence that happens every day, in every school I know about, including preschools. Yes, preschools.
Many of these children are labeled "special needs", and that's not invalid. But the law doesn't care if you're special needs and you assault someone, especially once you turn 18. Unless something changes and fast, these people WILL end up in the penal system. Once there: are they going to end up in prison systems, or are we going to open up better facilities?
Should We Bring Back Public Psychiatric Hospitals?
Yes. Yes, we need to bring them back ASAP.
Long term care and possibly lifelong care. I can tell you horror stories. I have seen people in psych wards that went in and are violent and then are arrested after becoming violent. The holy hell is that?
In home care? The mother in her 60s trying to control the daughter in her 30s that is wielding knives in a psychotic break. The therapist in her 20s that comes out once a week is telling the daughter to ignore the mom and she needs to learn how to make her own decisions.....to live independently. Stops coming to the home because of the aggression and now wants the daughter to come to the office to tell her to make her own decisions, ignore mom and she needs to live independently.
Here is the deal and people need to get real used to this...........there is no profit to be made here. None. But, you will stop paying out in other areas. Consider the amount of money that is spent from the time of arrest, incarceration at jail, money spent on the judge, to be released when they are found to be unfit back on the street and then repeat until they wind up in prison. That's not counting the cost of the number of people that are harmed and require medical care through out that trip.
I am not even thinking of just dx like psychosis, but severe autism. This is very sad and I feel, believe me, for families affected by this. But adults with autism who have violent meltdowns are often very violent and VERY strong. They can be dangerous to themselves and others. They should NOT be in prison. They SHOULD be in well-run and homes with much oversight. It becomes too much, and very quickly, to expect parents to become 24/7 caretakers of these most severe cases.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstream kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
I'm for bringing back Mental Hospitals almost exactly like they were. No shock therapy and abuse, though.
A sizable chunk of what goes to the jails/prisons could be used for it, because they're there anyway.
Crazy covers a lot. You can have a harmless psychotic, a homicidal maniac, and a lightbulb whisperer, they all need to be in different wards. Right now they're just all in jail. Mental Hospitals worked well for around a century or more.
The tragic irony of shutting them down is that the alternative is so much worse. Because the alternative has been prison and homelessness. Which one liberal poster here has not minded too much, anyway.
So you are just being selfish, you do not want any kids in your class that are disorderly. I have a niece in law and she has a masters (daddy paid for her school) and she has classes of broken home kids (she continually bitches about them, yet she makes big bucks), see you need to go back to childhood with most of these kids.
I have a friend of mine that has a severely autistic son that is now in his mid 20s. She lives outside of Chicago and is technically in Indiana. I have known him since he was 15. She is almost 60 now. He was in public education but went to a completely different building where they worked with him so he didn't have to deal with the chaos of mainstreamed kids. By the age of 17 he was physically a grown man. He was able to attend school until 21.
She had tried to get him into a group home because he would beat the living bejeezes out of her. She would try to get him into a psych ward but he was not admitted because he didn't meet the criteria. Well, now she is in a situation where she is looking at how much longer on the planet she is going to be around and there is no one else that is willing or able to care for him. These are the things that parents struggle with. Don't wanna do it but cannot continue.
When you are willing to pay a 50% tax rate to pay for this shit, let me know.
I'm not.
The tax money's already there, dumbass. It goes to the jails and the prisons.
I'm for bringing back Mental Hospitals almost exactly like they were. No shock therapy and abuse, though.
A sizable chunk of what goes to the jails/prisons could be used for it, because they're there anyway.
Crazy covers a lot. You can have a harmless psychotic, a homicidal maniac, and a lightbulb whisperer, they all need to be in different wards. Right now they're just all in jail. Mental Hospitals worked well for around a century or more.
The tragic irony of shutting them down is that the alternative is so much worse. Because the alternative has been prison and homelessness. Which one liberal poster here has not minded too much, anyway.
So you are just being selfish, you do not want any kids in your class that are disorderly. I have a niece in law and she has a masters (daddy paid for her school) and she has classes of broken home kids (she continually bitches about them, yet she makes big bucks), see you need to go back to childhood with most of these kids.
Penny you're one of the most small-minded people I have ever encountered--witness you whining about your nephew's wife here--and you project this on everyone else. Your niece's nice job and money is just something for YOU to envy. The students in my class I worry about are just a pain for ME to deal with. You you you you you it's all about Penny, so to Penny, everyone else must be selfish too.
IOW Penny doesn't like Jews so the Holocaust didn't happen.
Just buzz off, Penny.
