Prison: A Waste of Human Life

[FuelRod]

Cynical and bitter post. Jarvis is more trustworthy than you are, LOL.

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

Is this your measure of a persons morality?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Yup pretty much, prison is a miserable place and people will say almost anything to get out of there.

Prison is a mix of human beings. Some are hard core and will not change, others do.

Change has nothing to do with the sentence. The sentence is punishment for crime committed. You confuse the issues.

I don't confuse the issues at all. I'm quite clear.

 

[syrenn]

No, I will never shut up about opposing capital punishment.

I oppose it too. I am also intelligent enough not to challenge the people to ask the victims of crimes if killing the perpetrator will benefit them.

You presume that all victims of crime want their perpetrators killed in their name. Many of them don't.

What the victim wants has no bearing on the sentence. If that were true.. a lot more criminals would be dead.

It also does not matter if the victim does not want the death penalty... it is the state that is handing out the punishment in accordance with the law.

 

[Sky Dancer]

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

Is this your measure of a persons morality?

How do you make that leap? I don't what you're talking about. I have said no such thing.

I've said Jarvis is innocent of the crime he is on death row for. I have said I am against capital punishment. I have said Jarvis is a good writer and is benefiting many people. His life is worthwhile even in prison.

 

[syrenn]

Cynical and bitter post. Jarvis is more trustworthy than you are, LOL.

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

And that says more about you then me i am sad to say.

 

[FuelRod]

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

Is this your measure of a persons morality?

How do you make that leap? I don't what you're talking about. I have said no such thing.

I've said Jarvis is innocent of the crime he is on death row for. I have said I am against capital punishment. I have said Jarvis is a good writer and is benefiting many people. His life is worthwhile even in prison.

I'm asking you if you find him trustworthy simply because you think he writes well.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Is this your measure of a persons morality?

How do you make that leap? I don't what you're talking about. I have said no such thing.

I've said Jarvis is innocent of the crime he is on death row for. I have said I am against capital punishment. I have said Jarvis is a good writer and is benefiting many people. His life is worthwhile even in prison.

I'm asking you if you find him trustworthy simply because you think he writes well.

I find him trustworthy because I know his character. That is how I determine if someone is trustworthy or not.

 

[syrenn]

Actually if a person commits a crime they should accept and serve their time. I don't know about the case you speak of Skydancer, but yes sometimes innocent people do go to jail and serve time unjustly. We know this because DNA set many innocent people free after it was accepted science in courts across the country.

Some people can change, they still should serve the time given. That said, some people never get caught and still change. I know a few people who were former gang members here in this area and they have changed and are no longer in gangs and their life and the way they live it now is a testimony to the fact that people do change sometimes.

She says herself... he is fine with the sentence. Sound like an "innocent" man to you?

 

[syrenn]

Cynical and bitter post. Jarvis is more trustworthy than you are, LOL.

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Yep.

She does not get it though.... nor will she ever admit it.

 

[Sky Dancer]

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

And that says more about you then me i am sad to say.

Yeah, it looks like that to you. I hear you. You're eager to "pot shot". You'd like to put me down, instead of addressing the topic. You think you're superior. What else is new?

 

[California Girl]

Actually if a person commits a crime they should accept and serve their time. I don't know about the case you speak of Skydancer, but yes sometimes innocent people do go to jail and serve time unjustly. We know this because DNA set many innocent people free after it was accepted science in courts across the country.

Some people can change, they still should serve the time given. That said, some people never get caught and still change. I know a few people who were former gang members here in this area and they have changed and are no longer in gangs and their life and the way they live it now is a testimony to the fact that people do change sometimes.

Thank you for having an actual conversation about this topic. You know Jarvis?

Yes, people can and do change.

Yea, they do. Most of them regret the action that put them on the Row. But their action - their consequence.

 

[syrenn]

Yea, yea, yea. I've heard that before. I won't waste time going into details but people in prison are always 'transformed'.... and most of them return to be the fucking scumbag, murdering bastards the minute they get out.

If he's transformed, great. He can happily suffer the just penalty of his actions.

I see you've chosen to not be friends. I'm good with that.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I have personal experience of the justice system.... and I'd have been fucking delighted if she'd got the DP. Then I wouldn't have to share the planet with the murdering bitch.

friends of Charlotta.

I guess you missed that thread. Anyone who has a differing opinion...is an enemy.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Actually if a person commits a crime they should accept and serve their time. I don't know about the case you speak of Skydancer, but yes sometimes innocent people do go to jail and serve time unjustly. We know this because DNA set many innocent people free after it was accepted science in courts across the country.

Some people can change, they still should serve the time given. That said, some people never get caught and still change. I know a few people who were former gang members here in this area and they have changed and are no longer in gangs and their life and the way they live it now is a testimony to the fact that people do change sometimes.

She says herself... he is fine with the sentence. Sound like an "innocent" man to you?

I did not mean he was "fine" with getting executed when he is not guilty of the crime. I meant he is at peace in prison, and he is productive and helpful to others.

I love how you talk ABOUT me instead of TO me.

 

[Sky Dancer]

I see you've chosen to not be friends. I'm good with that.

I have no idea what you're talking about.

I have personal experience of the justice system.... and I'd have been fucking delighted if she'd got the DP. Then I wouldn't have to share the planet with the murdering bitch.

friends of Charlotta.

I guess you missed that thread. Anyone who has a differing opinion...is an enemy.

What are you talking about? If you have a problem with me, address it privately and don't derail the thread.

 

[Sky Dancer]

Actually if a person commits a crime they should accept and serve their time. I don't know about the case you speak of Skydancer, but yes sometimes innocent people do go to jail and serve time unjustly. We know this because DNA set many innocent people free after it was accepted science in courts across the country.

Some people can change, they still should serve the time given. That said, some people never get caught and still change. I know a few people who were former gang members here in this area and they have changed and are no longer in gangs and their life and the way they live it now is a testimony to the fact that people do change sometimes.

Thank you for having an actual conversation about this topic. You know Jarvis?

Yes, people can and do change.

Yea, they do. Most of them regret the action that put them on the Row. But their action - their consequence.

We are talking about one man, who I happen to know pretty well, not what some vague, "most" do.

 

[Sky Dancer]

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Yep.

She does not get it though.... nor will she ever admit it.

Again. This is rude. Talking about me, instead of to me. You're in bad shape today.

 

[California Girl]

Cynical and bitter post. Jarvis is more trustworthy than you are, LOL.

No... anyone who writes knows that. A shill will get you published even if what you have written is total crap.

Jarvis is a more trustworthy human being to me than you are. He's a talented writer. You wouldn't know, because you don't read him.

Are you saying that, because he may be a talented writer, that his actions should be overlooked?

How do you know he's the talented writer? How do you know it wasn't a ghostwriter? You do know that guys like him find it very easy to find a shill on the outside?

 

[syrenn]

Prison is a mix of human beings. Some are hard core and will not change, others do.

Change has nothing to do with the sentence. The sentence is punishment for crime committed. You confuse the issues.

I don't confuse the issues at all. I'm quite clear.

His changing is great... good for him...i hope he dies knowing what he did was wrong and he is suffering the punishment for said crimes. The change has no bearing on if he should or should not be executed.

no sky.... you are very muddled about the issues you are discussing.

If you are against the death penalty... fine.

If you say HE should not be put to death because he is a "changed man" that is not the same issue... nor does it have any bearing on the DP or his execution.

 

[California Girl]

Thank you for having an actual conversation about this topic. You know Jarvis?

Yes, people can and do change.

Yea, they do. Most of them regret the action that put them on the Row. But their action - their consequence.

We are talking about one man, who I happen to know pretty well, not what some vague, "most" do.

You 'know' him or you think you know him? How much time have you spent with him?

 

[Sky Dancer]

Change has nothing to do with the sentence. The sentence is punishment for crime committed. You confuse the issues.

I don't confuse the issues at all. I'm quite clear.

His changing is great... good for him...i hope he dies knowing what he did was wrong and he is suffering the punishment for said crimes. The change has no bearing on if he should or should not be executed.

no sky.... you are very muddled about the issues you are discussing.

If you are against the death penalty... fine.

If you say HE should not be put to death because he is a "changed man" that is not the same issue... nor does it have any bearing on the DP or his execution.

I am against the death penalty. I also know this man.

He was wrongly convicted. He is also a changed man.

You have no business telling me I'm "muddled". That's a personal attack and doesn't do much for your argument.