CDZ President Trump?

william the wie

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Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.
 
Could "get" strange? We passed that benchmark a looong time ago.

Otherwise? What is this about? Are you inviting debate? About what? The negative PR Hillary has received compared to Trump? How she's dooomed, or something?

Hillary is a deeply flawed candidate. Trump is a different animal entirely. Anyone who offers certitude about where we go from here is both a con-man and their own mark. No one knows what is going to happen, and no one honest would say they do.

The panic you describe is real, though. Shaking things up is often a good idea, but the how and why also matters. To do so out of panic, without any real understanding of what there is to be angry about and who's to blame for the mess, is likely to make matters worse.

If people are in a panic about the leadership that is being chosen, then a review of the integrity of the leadership selection process is not a bad idea. If we're this pissed off about Washington and how our representatives act, then why don't we look to our hiring practices? We're the people who send these jokers to represent us. Congress has a horrible approval rating and an absurdly high re-election rate. Gee, what's wrong with this picture? Are we fulfilling our fundamental responsibility to act as informed overseers of our representatives? It seems fair to me to say that our poor custodianship is to blame for our corrupt, useless government, not a liberal cabal or a conservative one. What will sending Trump do? Or Hillary, for that matter? Neither will do anything to change the system.

Democracy has failed. Low information voters have killed it. There are insufficient training wheels on democracy, and we can't keep the damn thing balanced. Maybe more training wheels will help. Term limits, campaign finance and electoral reform. Anti-Gerrymandering legislation. None of this would be necessary if people could be trusted to vote thoughtfully.
 
Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.

Hillary is a neoliberal. Obama is a neoliberal.
Trump has just as much right to run as does anyone else. That pisses off a whole lot of people.

There has been no PR disaster for Bernie Sanders, although, there have been a whole lot of attempts.
 
Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.

Hillary is a neoliberal. Obama is a neoliberal.
Trump has just as much right to run as does anyone else. That pisses off a whole lot of people.

There has been no PR disaster for Bernie Sanders, although, there have been a whole lot of attempts.

Could you provide me your definition of neoliberalism so I can understand your statements better?
 
Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.

Hillary is a neoliberal. Obama is a neoliberal.
Trump has just as much right to run as does anyone else. That pisses off a whole lot of people.

There has been no PR disaster for Bernie Sanders, although, there have been a whole lot of attempts.

A PR disaster for Hillary. Bernie has exceeded expectations as a spearcarrier at a coronation.
 
It is curious that at intervals of 80 years or so, the USA has gone into convulsions and morphed into a different kind of country---hidden by the pseudo-continuity of the Constitution.

1780---success of Oligarch Terrorist Insurrection

1860---Civil War and triumph of North-South Mutual Hysteria

1940---Depression and World War and rise of the neo-fascist super-brainwashed American oligarchic totalitarianism

2020---collapse of the System and anarchic civil war fostered by the One Percent?
 
Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.

Hillary is a neoliberal. Obama is a neoliberal.
Trump has just as much right to run as does anyone else. That pisses off a whole lot of people.

There has been no PR disaster for Bernie Sanders, although, there have been a whole lot of attempts.

Could you provide me your definition of neoliberalism so I can understand your statements better?

Free market gang bangers.
 
Strange as it may seem to those who get their news from the MSM and even many of us who don't Trump is getting the job done while Hillary and the three stooges she started with have been a PR disaster. Except for the true believing Ds and those who feel the Bern the D contest has been a cure for insomnia.

Trump sucks on the left coast and the north east seaboard which no R could get anyhow. The establishment of both parties hate him with a level of passion rarely seen outside of combat zones and honeymoon suites. The rest of the world thinks Trump should be arrested for hate speech. Hillary is getting the nomination with no real testing that she can handle a national campaign.

Hillary's scandals and missteps like using camera angles to make her crowds look bigger in the primaries will be featured in the campaign against her not to mention all of the pics of her with the Donald. This could get strange.

Hillary is a neoliberal. Obama is a neoliberal.
Trump has just as much right to run as does anyone else. That pisses off a whole lot of people.

There has been no PR disaster for Bernie Sanders, although, there have been a whole lot of attempts.

Could you provide me your definition of neoliberalism so I can understand your statements better?

Free market gang bangers.

That ain't a definition. Your answer to my request is only a description tending towards literature rather than concretely establishing a purposeful political position that leads to any progress or development (as is the nature of actual politics).

I am asking for a simple definition, and not for a simple description, because skilled politics requires not an already established framework coming from scripture (ie. Legislative literature) but requires instead an established framework coming from purpose and a set destination (ie. Ending fines).

I do not see any example or even reference to skilled politics in your posts, but I see the potential for it as you have shared such a pertinent word as neoliberalism, which may become an useful concept if politics is what you are really interested in engaging with.
 

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