President Trump: ObamaCare premiums are going up, up, up, just as I have been predicting for 2 years

[Meathead]

What a colossal fuck up Obamacare is, Barack's signature achievement.

 

[Wry Catcher]

You don't have a clue what is in that bill. Pelosi and Co. run their mouths and you just take it from there. Insurance companies kicked people off of their plans. They simply refused to insure.

One of the good things that Obamacare did was give some protection to the people that insurance companies did not want to insure. Protections the Republicans wanted to do away with.

Bullshit. Prior to Obamacare if you could not afford insurance, you got a government medical card. Everyone of my youth group kid's parents were on welfare, and they all had their cards.

Our healthcare was top notch. We had a greedy insurance problem. Obama allowed premiums to go through the roof, and then just handed out money to them. They were the winners of Obamacare. Not us.

What you are saying, and likely do not know it, is we need Medicare for all, parts A, B and D, and for those who choose a non government plan providing health care, part C.

Taking part D out of the private sector will save Millions for recipients, but will cost the drug companies Billions - which is telling.

 

[Wry Catcher]

What a colossal fuck up Obamacare is, Barack's signature achievement.

Ladies and Gentlemen, above is a classic circular argument, i.e. begging the question, a logical fallacy.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Your ignorance is amazing. The R's and trump are doing everything to sabotage the PPACA. Rather than fix what's broken the Freedom Caucus and Trump want to trade in the current vehicle for health care in America for a 1957 Edsel.

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Obamacare is broken? You libs are losing your minds.

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

 

[BluesLegend]

Obamacare is broken? You libs are losing your minds.

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

 

[NYcarbineer]

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

So it's now on Trump and the GOP for failing to repeal the ACA, right?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your ignorance is amazing. The R's and trump are doing everything to sabotage the PPACA. Rather than fix what's broken the Freedom Caucus and Trump want to trade in the current vehicle for health care in America for a 1957 Edsel.

View attachment 162571

Obamacare is broken? You libs are losing your minds.

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

Trump only won because he won MI, WI, and or OH, and or PA.

That was all about trade. The unions gave Trump the election.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Your ignorance is amazing. The R's and trump are doing everything to sabotage the PPACA. Rather than fix what's broken the Freedom Caucus and Trump want to trade in the current vehicle for health care in America for a 1957 Edsel.

View attachment 162571

Obamacare is broken? You libs are losing your minds.

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

Or, you could back up your claim. lol, fat chance.

 

[BluesLegend]

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

So it's now on Trump and the GOP for failing to repeal the ACA, right?

Hell no, Dem's are blocking repeal and replace so Dem's still own 100% of Obamacare choke on it.

 

[Wry Catcher]

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

LOL, you sure drank a lot of kool-aid. Obama believed the patient could keep their doctor; sadly many doctors and most insurance companies disagreed. Keep in mind insurance companies are not in business to pay out. As to the cost, the supposition was the larger the group, the lower the fees. That too failed to consider how man scofflaws exist, and believe there is a free lunch, i.e. going to the ER to see a doctor.

If you believe Obama is a liar, and that trump is not, you are fully out of touch with reality.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

So it's now on Trump and the GOP for failing to repeal the ACA, right?

Hell no, Dem's are blocking repeal and replace so Dem's still own 100% of Obamacare choke on it.

lolol, Democrats blocked the repeal and replace that only needed 50 out of 52 Republican Senators to vote for it?

You're fucking retarded.

 

[BluesLegend]

Obamacare is broken? You libs are losing your minds.

The PPACA needs fix'n, most agree that the bill needs good men and women to sit down and define what needs to change and how to do it.

Sadly, there are too few good men and good women in The Congress, most are focused on keeping their job and We the People are not their priority. The current President of the United States is solely concerned with himself, not only are We the People not a priority for him, we are subjects which need to be patronized and then ignored or demeaned.

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

Trump only won because he won MI, WI, and or OH, and or PA.

That was all about trade. The unions gave Trump the election.

Where's your proof? You have none, nada you are talking out your ass as usual.

 

[BluesLegend]

President Trump made it crystal clear what he intended to do about Obamacare and the American people in 30 states agreed with him and elected him president. We warned Dem's not to pass that bill over the objections of the American people but you crammed it through anyway and it destroyed the Dem party. Obliterated in the 2010 elections. Obama lied his ass off about Obamacare in 2012 and when his lies became obvious to the people Dem's got obliterated again in 2014 then Trump whooped their ass in 2016. HELLO earth to Democrats. lol

Trump didn't win over Obamacare. He won over trade promises.

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

LOL, you sure drank a lot of kool-aid. Obama believed the patient could keep their doctor; sadly many doctors and most insurance companies disagreed. Keep in mind insurance companies are not in business to pay out. As to the cost, the supposition was the larger the group, the lower the fees. That too failed to consider how man scofflaws exist, and believe there is a free lunch, i.e. going to the ER to see a doctor..

Holy shit Obama isn't responsible for looking the American people in the eye and promising they could keep their doctor and plan??? Goddamn that's some over the top spin right there.

 

[Meathead]

Trump only won because he won MI, WI, and or OH, and or PA.

That was all about trade. The unions gave Trump the election.

Yeah, those and 26 other states. The Beast got a measly 20 plus DC.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Trump only won because he won MI, WI, and or OH, and or PA.

That was all about trade. The unions gave Trump the election.

Yeah, those and 26 other states. The Beast got a measly 20 plus DC.

And still trump lost the popular vote to HRC by 3 million votes.

 

[BluesLegend]

Can you back up your fake news? Obama put Obamacare and his legacy on the line during the election, fact, he's on video doing so, and the American people kicked him and Obamacare to the curb.

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

So it's now on Trump and the GOP for failing to repeal the ACA, right?

Hell no, Dem's are blocking repeal and replace so Dem's still own 100% of Obamacare choke on it.

lolol, Democrats blocked the repeal and replace that only needed 50 out of 52 Republican Senators to vote for it?

You're fucking retarded.

Every last Dem voted no, they obviously prefer Obamacare so as I said choke on it. Here's to Obamacare burning the Dem party to the ground Trump holds all the cards, as Obamacare continues to do damage all he need to is point the finger at Dem's.

 

[Meathead]

Trump only won because he won MI, WI, and or OH, and or PA.

That was all about trade. The unions gave Trump the election.

Yeah, those and 26 other states. The Beast got a measly 20 plus DC.

And still trump lost the popular vote to HRC by 3 million votes.

As in baseball, it not how many hits you get, but runs you score. The Beast blew it big time.

 

[Meathead]

Nothing has been done to ACA.

Stop lying.

Trump and Republicans are directly responsible for major price increases for 2018.



Health insurers are asking state regulators to approve giant rate increases for 2018 individual policies, in part because they don't yet know if the Trump administration plans to help or hurt the Affordable Care Act's health insurance exchanges.

Insurers in the three states that have published requested rates say their double-digit hikes, which exceed 50% in some cases, may climb even higher if the federal government doesn't take steps to ease their jitters over ACA repeal-and-replace efforts by funding cost-sharing reduction subsidies and enforcing the mandate that requires most people to enroll in coverage. The sky-high increases, though not final, would leave health insurance unaffordable for many Americans.

Health insurers' proposed 2018 rate hikes are early 'warning signs'

Pennsylvania insurers offering Obamacare plans will need to raise premiums an average 30.6 percent in 2018, nearly four times the increase that had been anticipated before President Donald Trump scrapped government subsidiesfive days ago.

Pa. insurance department says Obamacare rates to rise 30.6 percent

I'm sure you're not bright enough to figure this one out, but as long as it's called "Obamacare", it's on Obama. That was simple yet genius of the GOP, second only to putting off Garland and getting in Gorsuch. Frankly, I'm getting a little tired of winning.

 

[Wry Catcher]

LOL, Obama was reelected in 2012. The PPACA was signed by him during his first term. Obama is still more popular than Trump - which doesn't say much, since trump is as welcome as a turd in a punch bowl.

Obama was reelected after LYING his ass off, then got wiped out in 2014 after his lies became obvious. Keep your plan and doctor, save $2,500 a year on health insurance ring a bell? Obama and Dem's

So it's now on Trump and the GOP for failing to repeal the ACA, right?

Hell no, Dem's are blocking repeal and replace so Dem's still own 100% of Obamacare choke on it.

lolol, Democrats blocked the repeal and replace that only needed 50 out of 52 Republican Senators to vote for it?

You're fucking retarded.

Every last Dem voted no, they obviously prefer Obamacare so as I said choke on it. Here's to Obamacare burning the Dem party to the ground Trump holds all the cards, as Obamacare continues to do damage all he need to is point the finger at Dem's.

You're not bright at all - on some level you must know that. Maybe you need to find a new message board, one you can discuss issues you are capable of comprehending.

 

[jknowgood]

It was supposed to lower premiums $2500 a year. Another Obama lie you swallowed.

You lie.

My gosh, Obama said it himself.

and the orange sociopath intentionally interfered to make prices go up.

that's a-ok with you though

The price went up when on a Obama was in office.

the prices set by the ACA were based upon everyone participating in the market, as it was intended to when the rightwing HERITAGE FOUNDATION designed it. where it was properly implemented, it worked as it was supposed to. where it was intentionally sabotaged by rieghtwinguts, it did not. as to the pricing... you can thank insurance companies which have always raised prices absurdly higher than market prices were increasing. but they went up at a SLOWER rate after the passage of the ACA. I appreciate your disingenuous Obama derangement though.

what also happened was that people who couldn't previously afford insurance were able to have it.

I know you hate that.

Democrats own this failure 100%.