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Discussion in 'Politics' started by archangel, Feb 28, 2006.

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    Since so many in here want so hard to believe that the take over of the Ports by DWP is okee dokee on the security issue...let me give you some food for thought! Just for the record John Snow the US Department of Treasury Secretary sold the sea port operations of CSX Rail( for 1.5 billion) to DWP(While he was Chairman) one year before he was appointed by President Bush. So if you have a hard time digesting the security issue at least you can see a definite conflict of interest here after all John Snow was the lead guy in the sale to DWP.....! I truly believe greed is the driving issue and is causing a definite monopoly in our country which is putting our security at risk!
     
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    two questions:

    1. who is in charge of port security?

    B. will the unions no longer be in charge of dockworkers?
     
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    Here's some more food for thought:


     
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    so if the coast guard and atf and dea and INS all have a hand in port of entry security


    and the mafia....errrrrrrrrr unions control who works there.....

    where is the "security" issue?
     
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    This is starting to look like the Halliburton/Cheney deal! And you buy into this disclaimer? I worked for the Department of Treasury/ USCS...The Secretary is briefed daily on all imporant issues...just as the President is! Now they both claim no prior knowledge...gimmee a break...not buying into it!
     
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    in another thread...but once again...The security risk comes into play as the 'Ships Manifest' is controlled by the port administration...what goes on the manifest is the perview of the port administration...in this case DWP! Customs agents spot search based on declared contents and port of departure...thank God they also go on gut feelings...which many seizures come from...It would take at least an additional 1m new agents to comprehensively search all suspected containers! :talk2:
     
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    No problem--pointing out the fact that the UAE boycotts Israel will bring out the pro-semitics. If they can't shut this thing down no one can. They have stong support and political clout.
     
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    What you're saying is we can't trust anybody, even Americans...including our President.

    And who creates the manifests? The companies that are shipping the goods. The companies have to declare to customs as well. The port managers are not going to be able to change a manifest unless they are in cahoots with the companies shipping the goods. That is pretty unlikely to happen with an established/reputable company or maybe we should not accept any goods originating from the Middle East?

    There is the stronger possibility of terrorists replacing goods (sitting in crates at the shipper's manufacturing/storage point or in some shipping/holding yard en route) with bomb materials without anyone's knowledge or perhaps with the help of a conspiring/bribed/threatened employee of one of the many handlers of the product along its trip to America. Handlers along the way can include manufacturers, wholesalers, trucking lines, railroad lines, airlines, shipping lines, customs handlers, storage facilities, etc.

    In my mind the only way we can truly prevent a nuclear bomb from entering the country is to develop the proper scanning technology to be used on each and every container. Not to mention guarding all of our borders. And creating friends in the Middle East who will help hunt down the terrorist groups.
     

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