Pompeo: Iran to blame for Houthi attack on Saudi oil facilities

[gipper]

LOL. Okay me deluded friend, tell me how many nations Iran has invaded in the last 40 years, versus the USA?

Secondly, the people of Iran overthrew the Shah. Do you know who installed the Shah? A revolution is not invading another nation silly.

Your ignorance, apparently of all things, continues to be impressive. Iran had invaded Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen since the revolution. It also arms and trains various terrorist groups that attack Israel and it shells Iraqi Kurds.

The last Shah was installed during WWII by the allies and with the support of Russia because the Shah's father, who had overthrown the corrupt royal family, because the Shah's father supported the Axis powers and the allies wanted to use Iran to send weapons and supplies from the US to Russia.

The Shah's father had banned all members of the royal family he had overthrown from serving in the government, a constitutional monarchy similar to England. The last Shah enacted reforms that that reversed the ban and Mohammad Mosaddegh became PM and tried to overthrow the Shah and the constitution but with US help and support the Shah retained power.

The Shah was overthrown by the people of Iran, but back then half or more of those who opposed the Shah were communists, socialists or secularists, and now those people are either all dead, in prison or in hiding.

You seem to be arguing that the US is evil and anyone who opposes the US is by definition, a good guy.

You are the one who thinks the US is wonderful and never does wrong, but Iran is evil. The government run media tells you this and you believe.

The 1953 coup by the CIA of a democratically elected leader, is nothing to be proud of. Has Iran done anything similar? The Shah attained power thanks to that coup. No? Yes?

Iran may be supporting armed forces in those nations you mention, but Iranian military forces have not invaded. Compare that to the US invasions of Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.

Do you see a difference?

How about those million dead Iraqis dumbass W is responsible for? Has Iran caused the deaths of one million people?

First, Mossadegh was democratically elected but when he lost his majority in the parliament, instead of stepping down he invoked old emergency laws and dismissed the parliament and began ruling by decree; that is, he became a tyrant. Although the same constitution that had allowed Mossadegh to become PM made the Shah head of state, Mossadegh demanded the Shah relinquish his constitutional power to him. He began trying to subvert elements of the military to overthrow the Shah and urged mobs to attack the Shah's palace. He was clearly trying to effect a coup, himself.

The streets of Tehran were filled with mobs, some supporting the Shah and some opposing him. Among those who opposed him were the Islamists, not a majority and communists who supported the USSR claim to some provinces of Iran. It was only at this point after gaining assurances from Britain it would provide fairer terms to Iran for its oil, that the US became involved. What you, in your ignorance and bigotry call the CIA coup, amounted only to providing office resources and advice to the Shah's supporters. It was when the military units Mossadegh had tried to subvert rejected him that the nation began to stabilize and the mobs began to thin. If the CIA can be credited with anything, it is with helping to stiffen the resolve of the Shah and his supporters before the military rejected Mossadegh's attempted coup.

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle East

Doesn’t matter. It was none of our government’s business to overthrow him.

You are aware that the Shah was ruthless and didn’t have the full support of his people. LOL. You cite these tyrannical actions by Mossadegh, but you must be aware the Shah was far worse.

None of it is our government’s business, unless you think the interests of big oil corporations match the interests of the American people.

Still waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Your ignorance, apparently of all things, continues to be impressive. Iran had invaded Lebanon, Syria, Iraq and Yemen since the revolution. It also arms and trains various terrorist groups that attack Israel and it shells Iraqi Kurds.

The last Shah was installed during WWII by the allies and with the support of Russia because the Shah's father, who had overthrown the corrupt royal family, because the Shah's father supported the Axis powers and the allies wanted to use Iran to send weapons and supplies from the US to Russia.

The Shah's father had banned all members of the royal family he had overthrown from serving in the government, a constitutional monarchy similar to England. The last Shah enacted reforms that that reversed the ban and Mohammad Mosaddegh became PM and tried to overthrow the Shah and the constitution but with US help and support the Shah retained power.

The Shah was overthrown by the people of Iran, but back then half or more of those who opposed the Shah were communists, socialists or secularists, and now those people are either all dead, in prison or in hiding.

You seem to be arguing that the US is evil and anyone who opposes the US is by definition, a good guy.

You are the one who thinks the US is wonderful and never does wrong, but Iran is evil. The government run media tells you this and you believe.

The 1953 coup by the CIA of a democratically elected leader, is nothing to be proud of. Has Iran done anything similar? The Shah attained power thanks to that coup. No? Yes?

Iran may be supporting armed forces in those nations you mention, but Iranian military forces have not invaded. Compare that to the US invasions of Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.

Do you see a difference?

How about those million dead Iraqis dumbass W is responsible for? Has Iran caused the deaths of one million people?

First, Mossadegh was democratically elected but when he lost his majority in the parliament, instead of stepping down he invoked old emergency laws and dismissed the parliament and began ruling by decree; that is, he became a tyrant. Although the same constitution that had allowed Mossadegh to become PM made the Shah head of state, Mossadegh demanded the Shah relinquish his constitutional power to him. He began trying to subvert elements of the military to overthrow the Shah and urged mobs to attack the Shah's palace. He was clearly trying to effect a coup, himself.

The streets of Tehran were filled with mobs, some supporting the Shah and some opposing him. Among those who opposed him were the Islamists, not a majority and communists who supported the USSR claim to some provinces of Iran. It was only at this point after gaining assurances from Britain it would provide fairer terms to Iran for its oil, that the US became involved. What you, in your ignorance and bigotry call the CIA coup, amounted only to providing office resources and advice to the Shah's supporters. It was when the military units Mossadegh had tried to subvert rejected him that the nation began to stabilize and the mobs began to thin. If the CIA can be credited with anything, it is with helping to stiffen the resolve of the Shah and his supporters before the military rejected Mossadegh's attempted coup.

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle East

Doesn’t matter. It was none of our government’s business to overthrow him.

You are aware that the Shah was ruthless and didn’t have the full support of his people. LOL. You cite these tyrannical actions by Mossadegh, but you must be aware the Shah was far worse.

None of it is our government’s business, unless you think the interests of big oil corporations match the interests of the American people.

Still waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

I get it, you don't like America. How many times do you need to say it?

 

[pknopp]

You are the one who thinks the US is wonderful and never does wrong, but Iran is evil. The government run media tells you this and you believe.

The 1953 coup by the CIA of a democratically elected leader, is nothing to be proud of. Has Iran done anything similar? The Shah attained power thanks to that coup. No? Yes?

Iran may be supporting armed forces in those nations you mention, but Iranian military forces have not invaded. Compare that to the US invasions of Iraq, Libya, Syria, etc.

Do you see a difference?

How about those million dead Iraqis dumbass W is responsible for? Has Iran caused the deaths of one million people?

First, Mossadegh was democratically elected but when he lost his majority in the parliament, instead of stepping down he invoked old emergency laws and dismissed the parliament and began ruling by decree; that is, he became a tyrant. Although the same constitution that had allowed Mossadegh to become PM made the Shah head of state, Mossadegh demanded the Shah relinquish his constitutional power to him. He began trying to subvert elements of the military to overthrow the Shah and urged mobs to attack the Shah's palace. He was clearly trying to effect a coup, himself.

The streets of Tehran were filled with mobs, some supporting the Shah and some opposing him. Among those who opposed him were the Islamists, not a majority and communists who supported the USSR claim to some provinces of Iran. It was only at this point after gaining assurances from Britain it would provide fairer terms to Iran for its oil, that the US became involved. What you, in your ignorance and bigotry call the CIA coup, amounted only to providing office resources and advice to the Shah's supporters. It was when the military units Mossadegh had tried to subvert rejected him that the nation began to stabilize and the mobs began to thin. If the CIA can be credited with anything, it is with helping to stiffen the resolve of the Shah and his supporters before the military rejected Mossadegh's attempted coup.

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle East

Doesn’t matter. It was none of our government’s business to overthrow him.

You are aware that the Shah was ruthless and didn’t have the full support of his people. LOL. You cite these tyrannical actions by Mossadegh, but you must be aware the Shah was far worse.

None of it is our government’s business, unless you think the interests of big oil corporations match the interests of the American people.

Still waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

I get it, you don't like America. How many times do you need to say it?

How may countries have we invaded the last 40 years? Is there any country that comes anywhere close to that?

 

[deltex1]

Pompeo: Iran to blame for Houthi attack on Saudi oil facilities
The attack comes after Iran exceeded their enriched uranium stockpile limit in the nuclear deal.

ME: And the Kenyan Pig Obama gave them the truckloads of cash to pay for the attack. Thanks Democrats.

If the Houthi take responsibility, bomb them like we bombed Isis...kill them all...along with their goats. If Iran proves to be responsible, broadcast a warning to the Iranian people...either remove your leaders or suffer as you have never suffered before. MOABs falling from the sky!

 

[toomuchtime_]

First, Mossadegh was democratically elected but when he lost his majority in the parliament, instead of stepping down he invoked old emergency laws and dismissed the parliament and began ruling by decree; that is, he became a tyrant. Although the same constitution that had allowed Mossadegh to become PM made the Shah head of state, Mossadegh demanded the Shah relinquish his constitutional power to him. He began trying to subvert elements of the military to overthrow the Shah and urged mobs to attack the Shah's palace. He was clearly trying to effect a coup, himself.

The streets of Tehran were filled with mobs, some supporting the Shah and some opposing him. Among those who opposed him were the Islamists, not a majority and communists who supported the USSR claim to some provinces of Iran. It was only at this point after gaining assurances from Britain it would provide fairer terms to Iran for its oil, that the US became involved. What you, in your ignorance and bigotry call the CIA coup, amounted only to providing office resources and advice to the Shah's supporters. It was when the military units Mossadegh had tried to subvert rejected him that the nation began to stabilize and the mobs began to thin. If the CIA can be credited with anything, it is with helping to stiffen the resolve of the Shah and his supporters before the military rejected Mossadegh's attempted coup.

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle East

Doesn’t matter. It was none of our government’s business to overthrow him.

You are aware that the Shah was ruthless and didn’t have the full support of his people. LOL. You cite these tyrannical actions by Mossadegh, but you must be aware the Shah was far worse.

None of it is our government’s business, unless you think the interests of big oil corporations match the interests of the American people.

Still waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

I get it, you don't like America. How many times do you need to say it?

How may countries have we invaded the last 40 years? Is there any country that comes anywhere close to that?

We invaded two countries in the last 40 years, Iraq and Afghanistan.

 

[gipper]

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle EastStill waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

I get it, you don't like America. How many times do you need to say it?

How may countries have we invaded the last 40 years? Is there any country that comes anywhere close to that?

We invaded two countries in the last 40 years, Iraq and Afghanistan.

LMFAO!

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Cheers. Let's hope the camel riders keep smashing each other. We don't need to be a part of it.

Of course, if Iran and Saudi Arabia escalate to war, it will affect us. We don't really get to choose whether it does or not.

How so?

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Cheers. Let's hope the camel riders keep smashing each other. We don't need to be a part of it.

Of course, if Iran and Saudi Arabia escalate to war, it will affect us. We don't really get to choose whether it does or not.

Explain how that will affect us? Please.

It will first directly affect some of our allies in the region, which will affect us. It will affect one of the most important shipping lanes on the world, will will harm our economy. It will produce millions of refugees, which affects the entire world. As the war drags on and as regional countries are drawn into the conflict, nations will start to take sides and entrench their positions. This will affect our trade and defense agreements around the globe. Bad actors on both sides will underake missions designed to provoke the US and bring us into the fray. As the world begins a bidding war on the now more scarce resources available, other, long standing tensions will flare, causing peripheral issues that were more dormant to reignite and come to the fire, damaging our economy even further.

Want me to go on? This isn't really high level stuff, and you shoud have the brain power to figure some of this out. Come on man, at least be smarter than that moron Rand Paul.

So what should we do?

 

[Terri4Trump]

Still no answer how many countries Iran has invaded compared to the US the last 40 years.

Go fuck yourself, terrorist lover.

 

[Terri4Trump]

If the Houthi take responsibility, bomb them like we bombed Isis...kill them all...along with their goats. If Iran proves to be responsible, broadcast a warning to the Iranian people...either remove your leaders or suffer as you have never suffered before. MOABs falling from the sky!

Finally, some sanity. Thank you

 

[gipper]

Still no answer how many countries Iran has invaded compared to the US the last 40 years.

Go fuck yourself, terrorist lover.

You’re nuts. Get checked.

 

[Terri4Trump]

What is it about threads about Iran that bring out the lowlife scum who want to defend the Islamo-Fascist terrorists and attack the US. A bunch of fucking punkass bitch cowards, all of you.

If I was forced to come up with a regret about my years in the military, it would be the fact that while I was defending the rights of good Americans I was also defending the rights of pieces of shit like you: gipper and pknopp and Tijn Von Ingersleben and the rest of you lowlifes

 

[pknopp]

Straight out of the CIA misinformation history of the Middle EastStill waiting for someone to point out the Constitution’s specified powers granted to any part of the government to determine the leadership of other countries.

In fact much of what I posted did come from CIA files that the courts forced the CIAA to make public, Operation Ajax. If you were actually interested in the issue instead of just trashing the US, you would know that. You must not be familiar with the Constitution if you don't know it gives the executive branch the power to defend US interests in foreign policy matters.

You are so terribly confused. Trashing the US government for intervening in the affairs of foreign nations, is most American. If only you were smart enough to understand this.

I get it, you don't like America. How many times do you need to say it?

How may countries have we invaded the last 40 years? Is there any country that comes anywhere close to that?

We invaded two countries in the last 40 years, Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yemen, Syria, Grenada, Panama, Haiti........

More US troops could go to Syria to help reduce tensions with Turkey - CNNPolitics

Trump vetoes measure to end US involvement in Yemen war

United States invasion of Grenada - Wikipedia

United States invasion of Panama - Wikipedia

Operation Uphold Democracy - Wikipedia

 

[pknopp]

What is it about threads about Iran that bring out the lowlife scum who want to defend the Islamo-Fascist terrorists and attack the US. A bunch of fucking punkass bitch cowards, all of you.

If I was forced to come up with a regret about my years in the military, it would be the fact that while I was defending the rights of good Americans I was also defending the rights of pieces of shit like you: gipper and pknopp and Tijn Von Ingersleben and the rest of you lowlifes

You were never in the military. If you had been you would not advocate getting US soldiers killed over something that is none of our business.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

If it came from Iraq, it would have been fired by one of Iran's militias in Iraq and that would have been a clear act of war by Iran

That is precisely what is being alleged. Just as iranian soldiers sabotaging foreign boats is an act of war. Just as our crippling sanctions on Iran are an act of war. There are acts of war all over the place. That's why it is worrisome. All out war may not be far off.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So what should we do?

Fuck man, I don't know. Aim to keep peace. How? Ask the experts. All you will get from me are my uneducated guesses. Let iran have its economy and let Israel bomb the shit out of suspected nuke sites, when they turn up. Give the Houthis a patch of sand and tell them to shut the fuck up. Expose north korea and russia as sowing chaos.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Does it make me an asshole that I don’t care whose responsible? Saudi Arabia is a foresaken land. Fuck them.

You must not mind paying more for gas

A small price to pay. The less business and entanglement we have with dreadful country the better.

We don't, but the rest of the world uses a lot of Saudi oil.

You obviously won't mind if we start shipping Texas oil to other parts of the world and you are paying $5.00 a gallon for gasoline.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If it came from Iraq, it would have been fired by one of Iran's militias in Iraq and that would have been a clear act of war by Iran

That is precisely what is being alleged. Just as iranian soldiers sabotaging foreign boats is an act of war. Just as our crippling sanctions on Iran are an act of war. There are acts of war all over the place. That's why it is worrisome. All out war may not be far off.

I know you have made this asinine allegation before, and you clutched on the response. How do you figure sanctions are an act of war? Are we obligated to purchase and sell items to a regime we do not like?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

So what should we do?

Fuck man, I don't know. Aim to keep peace. How? Ask the experts. All you will get from me are my uneducated guesses. Let iran have its economy and let Israel bomb the shit out of suspected nuke sites, when they turn up. Give the Houthis a patch of sand and tell them to shut the fuck up. Expose north korea and russia as sowing chaos.

So you are just bitching to be bitching like a true libtard?

 

[pknopp]

If it came from Iraq, it would have been fired by one of Iran's militias in Iraq and that would have been a clear act of war by Iran

That is precisely what is being alleged. Just as iranian soldiers sabotaging foreign boats is an act of war. Just as our crippling sanctions on Iran are an act of war. There are acts of war all over the place. That's why it is worrisome. All out war may not be far off.

I know you have made this asinine allegation before, and you clutched on the response. How do you figure sanctions are an act of war? Are we obligated to purchase and sell items to a regime we do not like?

Not at all. It's when we expect others not to.