Poll for leftists.....Did you pay your FAIR SHARE?

[bripat9643]

We've had this conversation a million times. Call it greed and ignorance of your surroundings.

I can't explain it over and over to you. Put it this way. When you were still living in your fathers balls we had a progressive system. We agreed that system worked best and it worked for you because here you are rich. You made it in that progressive system.

But NOW you want to do what we decided a long time ago wouldn't work, isn't right and isn't fair.

That's why. Because a flat tax won't work. If it won't work it's not fair. Stop it.

I never agreed to it, moron. No amount of demagoging will get you around that irrefutable fact. I couldn't give a flying fuck what some corrupt politicians decided 100 years ago. None of you socialist douchebags have ever come up with a good argument as to why anyone is obligated to pay a bigger percentage of their income to the government simply because they have earned more.

Are you a part of the government? Then no you did not agree. Your politician did. Or enough politicians decided to where your politician lost the debate.

Now since Reagan the rich are fighting back and winning big time. And you wonder why the middle class has struggled ever since Reagan?

Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts

This is what the rich have been doing to us stupid

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

ROFL! I don't buy into the leftwing theory that some politician can decide for me. That's utter democratic theory horseshit. Can he sign a mortgage for you? No judge would allow that. Stalin would endorse your theory of "consent"

Bottom line: I didn't agree.

What does Reagan have to do with this? When you're losing an argument, do you always reach into some bag of talking points and pull out a random selection?

You don't get to disagree stupid. If your politician votes to raise taxes it doesn't matter if you agree. Our governor might raise the gas tax to pay for roads. I don't agree. So what? Who the fuck are you/am I?

The rape victim doesn't get to disagree either. That doesn't mean it isn't rape.

What you don't seem to get is that might does not make right. You obviously don't care whether what your government does is moral or not. You're a fucking thug. On that we agree.

It's funny: he started off trying to convince me that I had agreed to pay taxes. Then he quickly devolved into admitting that he supports the government when it threatens me with guns like any ordinary thug.

 

[Timmy]

The numbers I've seen said they paid $412M, which is about 1/4th of what they should have paid. Accounting for certain deductions, it would still be a lot less than required. However, if you've seen that they paid 1.5B, then that would be right in line with what they should have paid.

you have no idea on what they were supposed to pay. stop that. quit acting like a fking know it all.

I'm just going off of the numbers posted here, and what I looked up, quickly, on the internet.

I don't care. you look foolish. you have no clue and no one in here can give it to you. so please stop it.

Help me understand then. I see pages of articles that say amazon paid no federal taxes in 2018, and even got a 129M rebate. Net profits for the company were 10B.

I know corporate taxes work differently than personal, but, for me, the IRS takes my gross income, gives me a standard deduction (I dont have enough to itemize yet), and they tax me on the remaining gross income. That isnt how it works in the corporate world? They have a gross revenue, they claim certain write offs, and the rest is taxable?

No need to be crass, I'm just trying to understand [emoji4]

why do you need to understand? corporate tax law is different. why not leave it at that? not sure your intentions, other than you look foolish.

Then why are we comparing Corp taxes wh individual taxes ?

 

[Dragonlady]

What is “fair share” ? Cause I work for a living and commute . So I get taxed from all sides .

Or is this where we pretend fed income taxes are the only taxes ?

exactly, what is fair share? it's a leftist term, so what is it?

Warren Buffett pointed out that he payed taxes at a much lower rate than his secretary, who makes a LOT less than he does. He has more deductions, and while she pays 18% of her income in taxes, he only pays 13%. He said his rate should be higher than hers, not lower.

 

[JoeB131]

/——-/ “It seems like after the rich steal the profits of work from the people who actually performed the physical labor,”
And that’s the problem. Just because something “seems” to be wrong doesn’t make it so. Why would you whitewash all businesses with the same brush? For a “liberal” like you that doesn’t “seem” fair.

Actually, pretty much describes every business i worked for, with all the shitty behavior by management I've seen. Business needs to be kept on a short leash.

 

[JoeB131]

Corporate welfare is trivial. Welfare for the under-performing is about $1.2 trillion per year. That's if you don't count Social Security and Medicare.

Do you have a link to that? The reality is, Social Welfare is less than 60 Billion a year, once you take out middle class entitlements like SS and Medicare.

MEANWHILE- Corporate welfare is close to 90 Billion and counting.

 

[bripat9643]

Corporate welfare is trivial. Welfare for the under-performing is about $1.2 trillion per year. That's if you don't count Social Security and Medicare.

Do you have a link to that? The reality is, Social Welfare is less than 60 Billion a year, once you take out middle class entitlements like SS and Medicare.

MEANWHILE- Corporate welfare is close to 90 Billion and counting.

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We spend more than that on Food Stamps alone.

Who do you think you're fooling?

 

[JoeB131]

We spend more than that on Food Stamps alone.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Food stamps are there to help the Farmers, not the poor. Try again.

 

[bripat9643]

We spend more than that on Food Stamps alone.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Food stamps are there to help the Farmers, not the poor. Try again.

That has to be the most pathetic weasel ever posted in this forum.

 

[oldsoul]

An example of leftie hypocrisy in the news today. They don't think the common folk pay enough taxes but elitist H'wood (left wing?) actors bribed colleges to get their dumb kids in and then deducted the bribes on their income taxes pretending that they were charitable deductions. How's that for nerve?

Not just Hollywood rich but a bunch of CEO's. CEO's you worship. You don't care how much more they make even 178 x the average worker.

All your story does is illustrate how right we are about white privilege and how rich people are privileged. Thank you for admitting that it's true.

Really? Why do you have to bring race into this? Can't we have just one discussion without race coming up? One might think you are preoccupied with race...

Because most of them are white. And all of them are rich.

And because this is just one example of white privilege. Sure blacks could take advantage of this too and get their kids into Harvard if they only had the money.

I bet you guys complain more about affirmative action than you will about these rich people buying their kids a seat that your kid could have had. Oh you guys cry about how a black might have taken your seat but I bet you won't lose sleep over these rich people taking your kids spot.

You would be quite wrong about that, for me at least. I am a firm believer in a MERIT based system. I don't care what color your skin is, or who your parents are. If you can cut it, you should be given an opportunity, conversely, if you can't cut it, to damn bad.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

We spend more than that on Food Stamps alone.

Who do you think you're fooling?

Food stamps are there to help the Farmers, not the poor. Try again.

 

[jc456]

you have no idea on what they were supposed to pay. stop that. quit acting like a fking know it all.

I'm just going off of the numbers posted here, and what I looked up, quickly, on the internet.

I don't care. you look foolish. you have no clue and no one in here can give it to you. so please stop it.

Help me understand then. I see pages of articles that say amazon paid no federal taxes in 2018, and even got a 129M rebate. Net profits for the company were 10B.

I know corporate taxes work differently than personal, but, for me, the IRS takes my gross income, gives me a standard deduction (I dont have enough to itemize yet), and they tax me on the remaining gross income. That isnt how it works in the corporate world? They have a gross revenue, they claim certain write offs, and the rest is taxable?

No need to be crass, I'm just trying to understand [emoji4]

why do you need to understand? corporate tax law is different. why not leave it at that? not sure your intentions, other than you look foolish.

Then why are we comparing Corp taxes wh individual taxes ?

good question. why?

 

[jc456]

Corporate welfare is trivial. Welfare for the under-performing is about $1.2 trillion per year. That's if you don't count Social Security and Medicare.

Do you have a link to that? The reality is, Social Welfare is less than 60 Billion a year, once you take out middle class entitlements like SS and Medicare.

MEANWHILE- Corporate welfare is close to 90 Billion and counting.

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corporations don't receive money stupid fk. they may not pay in equally due to deals set up. but we aren't losing dollars. what a total stupid fk.

 

[Timmy]

I'm just going off of the numbers posted here, and what I looked up, quickly, on the internet.

I don't care. you look foolish. you have no clue and no one in here can give it to you. so please stop it.

Help me understand then. I see pages of articles that say amazon paid no federal taxes in 2018, and even got a 129M rebate. Net profits for the company were 10B.

I know corporate taxes work differently than personal, but, for me, the IRS takes my gross income, gives me a standard deduction (I dont have enough to itemize yet), and they tax me on the remaining gross income. That isnt how it works in the corporate world? They have a gross revenue, they claim certain write offs, and the rest is taxable?

No need to be crass, I'm just trying to understand [emoji4]

why do you need to understand? corporate tax law is different. why not leave it at that? not sure your intentions, other than you look foolish.

Then why are we comparing Corp taxes wh individual taxes ?

good question. why?

Ask the op ! He implies businesses are getting creamed compared to people .

 

[jc456]

I don't care. you look foolish. you have no clue and no one in here can give it to you. so please stop it.

Help me understand then. I see pages of articles that say amazon paid no federal taxes in 2018, and even got a 129M rebate. Net profits for the company were 10B.

I know corporate taxes work differently than personal, but, for me, the IRS takes my gross income, gives me a standard deduction (I dont have enough to itemize yet), and they tax me on the remaining gross income. That isnt how it works in the corporate world? They have a gross revenue, they claim certain write offs, and the rest is taxable?

No need to be crass, I'm just trying to understand [emoji4]

why do you need to understand? corporate tax law is different. why not leave it at that? not sure your intentions, other than you look foolish.

Then why are we comparing Corp taxes wh individual taxes ?

good question. why?

Ask the op ! He implies businesses are getting creamed compared to people .

I'm not the OP, and did you drop a marble? the OP was about left's paying fair share and if not why not give 50% of your earnings. what has that to do with corporations? dude, pick your marble up.

 

[Timmy]

Help me understand then. I see pages of articles that say amazon paid no federal taxes in 2018, and even got a 129M rebate. Net profits for the company were 10B.

I know corporate taxes work differently than personal, but, for me, the IRS takes my gross income, gives me a standard deduction (I dont have enough to itemize yet), and they tax me on the remaining gross income. That isnt how it works in the corporate world? They have a gross revenue, they claim certain write offs, and the rest is taxable?

No need to be crass, I'm just trying to understand [emoji4]

why do you need to understand? corporate tax law is different. why not leave it at that? not sure your intentions, other than you look foolish.

Then why are we comparing Corp taxes wh individual taxes ?

good question. why?

Ask the op ! He implies businesses are getting creamed compared to people .

I'm not the OP, and did you drop a marble? the OP was about left's paying fair share and if not why not give 50% of your earnings. what has that to do with corporations? dude, pick your marble up.

I didn’t say you were the op.


The op brought corps into this discussion.

 

[sealybobo]

On income over ten million go ahead and tax me. It puts a cap on greed

How is keeping what you've earned "greed?" Wouldn't wanting what others have earned fit the definition better?

We've had this conversation a million times. Call it greed and ignorance of your surroundings.

I can't explain it over and over to you. Put it this way. When you were still living in your fathers balls we had a progressive system. We agreed that system worked best and it worked for you because here you are rich. You made it in that progressive system.

But NOW you want to do what we decided a long time ago wouldn't work, isn't right and isn't fair.

That's why. Because a flat tax won't work. If it won't work it's not fair. Stop it.

I never agreed to it, moron. No amount of demagoging will get you around that irrefutable fact. I couldn't give a flying fuck what some corrupt politicians decided 100 years ago. None of you socialist douchebags have ever come up with a good argument as to why anyone is obligated to pay a bigger percentage of their income to the government simply because they have earned more.

Are you a part of the government? Then no you did not agree. Your politician did. Or enough politicians decided to where your politician lost the debate.

Now since Reagan the rich are fighting back and winning big time. And you wonder why the middle class has struggled ever since Reagan?

Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts

This is what the rich have been doing to us stupid

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

ROFL! I don't buy into the leftwing theory that some politician can decide for me. That's utter democratic theory horseshit. Can he sign a mortgage for you? No judge would allow that. Stalin would endorse your theory of "consent"

Bottom line: I didn't agree.

What does Reagan have to do with this? When you're losing an argument, do you always reach into some bag of talking points and pull out a random selection?

Would you like me to be more specific?

60 Top Corporations Paid $0 Federal Taxes Under Trump Tax Law | HuffPost

The number of companies paying no federal taxes has doubled on Trump's watch. When your taxes go up and you wonder why you can't save anything, don't blame us liberals.

 

[Wyatt earp]

What is “fair share” ? Cause I work for a living and commute . So I get taxed from all sides .

Or is this where we pretend fed income taxes are the only taxes ?

exactly, what is fair share? it's a leftist term, so what is it?

Warren Buffett pointed out that he payed taxes at a much lower rate than his secretary, who makes a LOT less than he does. He has more deductions, and while she pays 18% of her income in taxes, he only pays 13%. He said his rate should be higher than hers, not lower.

Then tell him to pay up and quit talking about it.


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[bripat9643]

How is keeping what you've earned "greed?" Wouldn't wanting what others have earned fit the definition better?

We've had this conversation a million times. Call it greed and ignorance of your surroundings.

I can't explain it over and over to you. Put it this way. When you were still living in your fathers balls we had a progressive system. We agreed that system worked best and it worked for you because here you are rich. You made it in that progressive system.

But NOW you want to do what we decided a long time ago wouldn't work, isn't right and isn't fair.

That's why. Because a flat tax won't work. If it won't work it's not fair. Stop it.

I never agreed to it, moron. No amount of demagoging will get you around that irrefutable fact. I couldn't give a flying fuck what some corrupt politicians decided 100 years ago. None of you socialist douchebags have ever come up with a good argument as to why anyone is obligated to pay a bigger percentage of their income to the government simply because they have earned more.

Are you a part of the government? Then no you did not agree. Your politician did. Or enough politicians decided to where your politician lost the debate.

Now since Reagan the rich are fighting back and winning big time. And you wonder why the middle class has struggled ever since Reagan?

Roll Back the Reagan Tax Cuts

This is what the rich have been doing to us stupid

Nobles Need Not Pay Taxes

ROFL! I don't buy into the leftwing theory that some politician can decide for me. That's utter democratic theory horseshit. Can he sign a mortgage for you? No judge would allow that. Stalin would endorse your theory of "consent"

Bottom line: I didn't agree.

What does Reagan have to do with this? When you're losing an argument, do you always reach into some bag of talking points and pull out a random selection?

Would you like me to be more specific?

60 Top Corporations Paid $0 Federal Taxes Under Trump Tax Law | HuffPost

The number of companies paying no federal taxes has doubled on Trump's watch. When your taxes go up and you wonder why you can't save anything, don't blame us liberals.

Government revenue has increased under Trump, so his tax cut isn't the issue.