Poll: Americans Blame GOP if We Go Over Fiscal Cliff

The Republicans have 2 choices:

1. Give Obama everything he wants now OR

2. Let the country go over the fiscal cliff, the nation's economy go into a tail spin and the Republicans get blamed, then have the new moderate Republican house give Obama everything he wants...and a whole lot more!

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let obama and Democrats HAVE it all..and of course we then don't want any bitching from you all who voted for and how it is affecting YOU, your children and your grandchildren after

I would advise staying away from posts from opposition that will bait you. If you care about your kids and grandkids, you'll want conservatives down the road. The present trajectory isn't working.
 
Well, Boehner (R) has said revenue is on the table, after the shellacking Repubs took in the recent election, so either he's being truthful and distancing himself from that zany norquist pledge or he's lying.
Of course he's saying that....He wants to preserve his party's sacrament of Pentagon spending.

What is Pentagon spending? It's JOBS, usually well paying jobs building the things the military needs. Are you saying we can afford to lose all those jobs?
Those jobs are "created" by first taking money out of productive commercial pursuits, in order to pay for them.

Even though you may be building a bomber, there's still no free lunch, Bubba.
 
This is why the GOP House needs to wait until a Dem bill is introduced, then ABSTAIN and let the Dems own it.

The Tea Party House Reps. would get voted out by their own for that!

Why? So the GOP can take the fall (again) for all of the unpopular cuts? This has been tried before and it never works. Even the credit downgrade was blamed on the GOP, even though it had nothing to do with any delay; it was because the spending constraints were insufficient. The GOP always does best at the ballot box after the Dems have had their way.


No chance the Tea Party Republicans in the House end the sequester deal without other massive cuts. It was what they were elected to do back when people actually gave a fuck about trillion dollar a year deficits.
 
FTR, I blame both sides.

A majority of Americans expect the U.S. to go over the fiscal cliff at the beginning of 2013 and would blame Republicans if that happened, according to a poll published today.

The survey by the Pew Research Center and the Washington Post found 51 percent of those polled said they don’t think President Barack Obama and Congress will be able to agree on a package of tax increases and spending cuts to replace the automatic reductions in government spending and the expiration of the Bush-era tax cuts scheduled for Jan. 1. Thirty-eight percent said they expected Obama and Congress to cut a deal.

If lawmakers fail to reach a deal, 53 percent said Republicans in Congress will bear responsibility, compared with 29 percent who said President Barack Obama will be at fault and 10 percent who chose both sides.

Majority Says U.S. Won

Yeah there is no way any sane, honest, or intelligent person is going to blame one party on this one, both parties did not negotiate this agreement in good faith. Also, both parties over the last 30 years have been progressively increasing the size of the govt in one way or another which has led us to the point where govt expense far outpaces govt revenues. Both parties have also added to the national debt. Like Obama said (and since saying has done himself) adding to the debt is unpatriotic and its a huge problem for future generations of americans.

Anyone who lays the blame on one party or person isn't to be trusted in whatever it is they are saying.

I think you might be underestimating the partisan mindset.
 
Of course he's saying that....He wants to preserve his party's sacrament of Pentagon spending.

What is Pentagon spending? It's JOBS, usually well paying jobs building the things the military needs. Are you saying we can afford to lose all those jobs?
Those jobs are "created" by first taking money out of productive commercial pursuits, in order to pay for them.

Even though you may be building a bomber, there's still no free lunch, Bubba.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
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What is Pentagon spending? It's JOBS, usually well paying jobs building the things the military needs. Are you saying we can afford to lose all those jobs?
Those jobs are "created" by first taking money out of productive commercial pursuits, in order to pay for them.

Even though you may be building a bomber, there's still no free lunch, Bubba.

Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired, signifies in the final sense a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and are not clothed.
Dwight D. Eisenhower

In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
Dwight D. Eisenhower
Read more at Dwight D. Eisenhower Quotes - BrainyQuote
Yeah, and so does every EBT card.

Check that plank in your own eye first, comrade.
 
It will be up to the Senate and Obama what they do with it. If the Democrats effectively pocket veto it, it is on them.

Like everything else, Hairy Reid either will block it or put some poison pill in it, send it back to the House, the House will kill it and thus make it the Repubs' fault.
 
Pubs will do anything, including go off the cliff, to protect the greedy rich- whose wealth has gone up 300% under voodoo while the rest suffer, and have 93% of the growth in the last 4 years. Pub dupes! Absolutely brainwashed and clueless...

And the Dumbos will do anything, including go off the cliff, to protect the welfare whores that elected them.
 
Of course he's saying that....He wants to preserve his party's sacrament of Pentagon spending.

What is Pentagon spending? It's JOBS, usually well paying jobs building the things the military needs. Are you saying we can afford to lose all those jobs?

when the us military is 5X larger then the next 7 countries combined? Yes

Losing those jobs means states will lose tax revenue. And that means they will have to cut their budgets to make up for it, sacrificing things such as infrastucture projects (more jobs gone) and making deep cuts to law enforcement (like many states have been doing).
 
Americans have already proven they are lazy stupid brain numb assholes. Especially the ones in California.
 
Americans have already proven they are lazy stupid brain numb assholes. Especially the ones in California.

Or the ones here in MA who didn't elect the most Bi-partisan senator in the senate but went with a "tow the party line" person instead.......no need to think just vote for your party regardless......
 

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