Politically we deserve an un biased media, but

[Big Fitz]

Does anyone else realize that we've never had an unbiased media in this nation since even before it's founding?

Are we as a people really that dense to think that impartiality really exists? Our grandparents didn't. Maybe our parents generation was that naive... but we shouldn't be today.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Politically we deserve an un biased media…

Since before the advent of the Republic the media have been ‘biased.’

It’s always been incumbent upon the citizen to learn the truth of issues himself, and not merely take some source's word as gospel.

It worries me that the major news media is so far left and are failing the public it is the duty to report the truth too

As a blind partisan and rightist ideologue, your issue has nothing to do with the ‘truth’ but the media’s reporting of facts which conflict with conservative dogma.

 

[8537]

In fact this economy is killing me

No, all the time you waste here instead of getting off your ass looking for a job is killing you.

Now be a good conservative, lift by your own bootstraps and quit blaming others for your own lazy misfortune.

 

[JRK]

Politically we deserve an un biased media, but you can't get any more biased than Fox News who sued for the right to lie.......and do.

I do not watch fox new either. I will defend them though as we did need a voice that was in rebuttle to the other(s) that are far far left of center
Fox news as far as I recall in the US has had no issues as ABC, CBS and NBC have had, have they?

I serious, the Trevor Martin case has had issues with the truth?
What CBS did with the GWB national guard lies was the worst

Any-way I do not watch Fox either, I do read there web site

 

[JRK]

Politically we deserve an un biased media…

Since before the advent of the Republic the media have been ‘biased.’

It’s always been incumbent upon the citizen to learn the truth of issues himself, and not merely take some source's word as gospel.

It worries me that the major news media is so far left and are failing the public it is the duty to report the truth too

As a blind partisan and rightist ideologue, your issue has nothing to do with the ‘truth’ but the media’s reporting of facts which conflict with conservative dogma.

I gave you numerous examples of the lies the main stream media have told as well as very questionable polls and opinions
GM
Trevor Martin
The poll that ABC/Post just came out with about the election
real job growth
Blaming credit card fees on hi fuel prices (as a part, no the whole)
Blaming speculation on hi oil cost (VIX comes with policy)
Claiming "record" profits for corporations who such as Exxon who only increased there Revenue (8% of 2.00 makes more profit than 8% on 1.00)
To keep the lie corporations pay any tax lie going (supporting BHO agenda) People pay taxes, corporations do not
To make the "buffet" tax as though it is the same as income tax (its a capital gains tax vs an income tax)
Never once reporting that Obama-cares "fine" is nothing more than a tax
Never reporting that Obamacare double dipped its medicare savings to make budget
None do a detailed look into why out UE number is really falling (work-force numbers falling, no real job growth)

These are all serious and none are true. They support 100% the far left wing agenda

None of these have any-thing to do with policy and agendas such as trillion dollar deficts ad Obama-care and its real cost
This is just information, it has no bias in it excpet it tell the 1/2 that except Fox nad Drudge never gets told

 

[JRK]

In fact this economy is killing me

No, all the time you waste here instead of getting off your ass looking for a job is killing you.

Now be a good conservative, lift by your own bootstraps and quit blaming others for your own lazy misfortune.

You have 0 class
I hope you realize one day just how evil you are before every one one who you think loves you has enough of you
Good Luck dude, you need it
Back on ignore

 

[Dr.Drock]

Of course republicans don't like when Obama is getting favorable treatment from the media (which he is) but they had no problem with the media annointing Bush and Guiliani as heros solely because they were in office when 9/11 happened.

There was no questioning as to how we could let this happen, no blame whatsoever, just "Yayyy you guys are great, rah rah rah, go get those evil doers you brave heros!"

So like everything with partisians, their issues aren't principle-related, their partisan-related.

 

[JRK]

The media needs to be a watch dog. It should not have covered up the fact that Bush lied us into Iraq.

But the GOP have bullied the media. THey also own most all of it too now after Clinton let them deregulate it, but besides that, the media today won't call out Republicans when they lie for fear they will be labeled liberal or bias. So they just report what the GOP tells them and they don't ever ask follow up questions or call them out when they lie.

Perfect example would be global warming. Today there is no doubt that human's are causing global warming. Only right wing scientists deny this. Same kinds that said cigarettes didn't cause cancer. Ones that are in the pockets of the tobacco or polluters pockets.

But the media accepted the GOP's arguments and never fact checked them. So still today we have a lot of Americans that still believe humans aren't responsible for Global warming. If the media did their job, the GOP wouldn't get away with lying like they do.

The media might have supported Clinton's splendid little war in Yugoslavia but the media had nothing to do with the conflict in Iraq. By Constitutional law democrats had access to the same intelligence as the president regarding the hundreds of UN sanctions and they voted for boots on the ground. A political party doesn't get to withdraw it's support for the Troops unless it wants to engage in treason. Democrats sinckered at a full freaking page ad in the NY Times that called the commander of US Troops "betray-us" and the freaking senate majority leader tried to impact the morale of US Troops when he told the world "the war in Iraq is lost". president Bush gave Saddam about a year to comply with UN sanctions and the democrats had the same amount of time to investigate claims of WMD's that Clinton said were in Iraq. The dumb ignorant old story that Bush lied don't fly anymore.

Home run
GWB inherited that mess
The UN stated the same up until we invaded
Yet the Media lied and lied and lied and lied until it got BHO elected
The UN are the real culprits here. Read the link I sipplied above or google Blix jan 27 2003
Great thread

 

[peach174]

Politically we deserve an un biased media, but you can't get any more biased than Fox News who sued for the right to lie.......and do.

It was a Fox affiliate in Florida.
Get it correct rdean.
The lawsuit never was about the right to lie.
FOX, Lies & Videotape: debunking an internet myth

 

[JRK]

Politically we deserve an un biased media, but you can't get any more biased than Fox News who sued for the right to lie.......and do.

It was a Fox affiliate in Florida.
Get it correct rdean.
The lawsuit never was about the right to lie.
FOX, Lies & Videotape: debunking an internet myth

Thanks
I just assumed he was telling the truth
Fox I have never known to lie either
I stopped watching there news simply because I do the internt thing

MSN gives me the libreal lies out of the gate, I read Foxes web site when a major event occurs
I do alllot of DD on all subject matters such as the debt as well as GM, etc...

 

[candycorn]

So "JFK" sees no conflict of interests and media bias in the media sources he selects - even if they are funded by such notoriously conservative groups as Exxon Mobil and Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation.

Are we now to assume, based on his "pearls of wisdom," that "media bias" can be viewed as nothing more than a left wing phenomena?

He's not happy unless he's pissed off about something. There is a term for it in the mental health community. I forget what it is.. Peole like him always have to have an enemy at the gates.

 

[candycorn]

The media needs to be a watch dog. It should not have covered up the fact that Bush lied us into Iraq.

But the GOP have bullied the media. THey also own most all of it too now after Clinton let them deregulate it, but besides that, the media today won't call out Republicans when they lie for fear they will be labeled liberal or bias. So they just report what the GOP tells them and they don't ever ask follow up questions or call them out when they lie.

Perfect example would be global warming. Today there is no doubt that human's are causing global warming. Only right wing scientists deny this. Same kinds that said cigarettes didn't cause cancer. Ones that are in the pockets of the tobacco or polluters pockets.

But the media accepted the GOP's arguments and never fact checked them. So still today we have a lot of Americans that still believe humans aren't responsible for Global warming. If the media did their job, the GOP wouldn't get away with lying like they do.

GWB lied to us
hahahahaha
what about these people? they started it
One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Now lets talk about the UN
Jan 2003, the event that we invaded over

Classic "yeah but" thinking. Typical.

Also most of those people listened to Bush's CIA which cooked the intel--this was back when it was believed that the CIA was an honest broker in these matters. I think most in Congress knew better later in Bush's administration that the CIA wasn't reporting all of the facts.

 

[Big Fitz]

Huh...

Strange epiphany.

The entitlement mentality comes to the media debate. We DESERVE... Horseshit. We SHOULD be smart enough to realize everyone spins. If you're that much of a sucker to not know it, you DESERVE what you get.

 

[candycorn]

In fact this economy is killing me

No, all the time you waste here instead of getting off your ass looking for a job is killing you.

Now be a good conservative, lift by your own bootstraps and quit blaming others for your own lazy misfortune.

It would be a shame if he couldn't afford his computer and internet connection...NOT!

 

[JRK]

So "JFK" sees no conflict of interests and media bias in the media sources he selects - even if they are funded by such notoriously conservative groups as Exxon Mobil and Charles G. Koch Charitable Foundation.

Are we now to assume, based on his "pearls of wisdom," that "media bias" can be viewed as nothing more than a left wing phenomena?

He's not happy unless he's pissed off about something. There is a term for it in the mental health community. I forget what it is.. Peole like him always have to have an enemy at the gates.

what am I suppose to be pissed about?
And this endles BS about me and this conflict is nothing but an attempt to change the subject

Not one of you have disputed the facts within this thread. No-one needs any-one to tell them BHO lied about GM
That the UE numbers going down have as much to do with people leaving the work force as any-thing
Fox News Poll: Romney Edges Obama as Approval of President Drops | Fox News
look at this poll and look at the ABC/Post poll Vs BHO approval numbers
No-one has to explain to me that Obama care was sold on dbl dipping savings on medicare

Its just doing your DD if it matters
In 2007 we had a defict of 163 billion
in 2009 it was 1.4 trillion

BHO stated he inhertied that 1.4 trillion defict, yet some where in there is a failed stimulus, millions losing there jobs and not paying taxes on his watch
Tarp in which he voted for as well as used over 200 billion of hit his self
even the heritage gives GWB 1/2 of that number, bit BHO gives it all to him

I could go on and on, but why

changing the subject only show you have nothing to rebutte as far as having info that shows other wise

 

[8537]

In fact this economy is killing me

No, all the time you waste here instead of getting off your ass looking for a job is killing you.

Now be a good conservative, lift by your own bootstraps and quit blaming others for your own lazy misfortune.

You have 0 class

that's OK. You're a lying, misrepresenting fool.

I hope you realize one day just how evil you are before every one one who you think loves you has enough of you

LOL! You need to step away from the computer and learn not to take yourself so fucking seriously. Have a drink. Kiss your wife. Go outside and have some fun. Live a life instead of telling others about how to live theres.

 

[JRK]

8537
you have got no class
My job status to start with is none of your business, I am fine
I have been pulling my boot straps up when you were learning to be a liberal with a real bad attitude
shitting yellow
Good luck with that BTW
what part of ignore don't you understand
define ignore - Bing DICTIONARY
millions of very hard working as well as educated people are having real problems finding work in this Obama made economy
All of us do not work for GM Dude nor do we desire to move 100s of miles from our homes, as I will in time have to do

In fact I will probably end up in Canada
or Texas

any-way, good luck with being you, you need it