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It is called being objective and fair. Why don't you want to be objective when making your claims? I don't know, maybe you have a polish penis stuck up your ass?No you have a lack of substance.
You've not shown any Battles of the ones you think did better like Nazis, WHO LOST at near even numbers in Operation Barbarossa.
You've ignored all the Battles I've posted, and just have moved everything to WW2 which is 1 out of 1,000's of Wars Poland was in.
Spartans also lost some battles, so it doesn't really matter if Poles sometimes lost.
You're just looking like one with some serious bone to chew with Poland for no reason at all.
you want to claim great battles where the poles lost both the battle and the war, but dismiss anyone else who did the same.
No, you want to ignore Polish victories, and harp on Nazi German's lost.
Why?
Who knows you're a clown.
Objective?
You haven't even come close....None of the groups you mentioned are even competition for Poland's Golden Age...
The best military commander is definitely Genghiz Khan... But... Polish Boleslaw Chrobry, and Jan Sobieski are very close, in fact so are some others.
Furthermore, Poles have a more consistent victory margin than Mongols.
Also Swedes come very close to Poles in victories when outnumbered.
Yes Spartans for only a very brief period.
It's not Nazi Germany, or Confederates, who are even in question.... You sound like a moron to even discuss that.
I am taking Hannibal on offense because I think he would rapidly learn, Napolean for fighting a defense using offense. For digging in and simply holding out as long as possible, that list would be huge, it is a lot easier. Isreal fought and won 3 wars of annilihation in 25 years, I am hiring them if I want to play defense with conventional weapons.
meanwhile, congrats to Poland on ranking well behind Sweden in scientific contribution in 2016 despite having 4 times as many people. Ranked number #24, gee I can see why you think Poland is real science powerhouse
The World's Best Countries in Science [Interactive]
1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
According to lists like yours, Per capita some of the biggest innovation countries in the Sciences are countries which hardly have any kind of notable Scientific achievements at any point in history, such as Finland, Switzerland, and Ireland.
This proves that while they might come up with a lot of innovation in the Sciences, very little of it is even ground-breaking, or note-wrothy.
In the Renaissance Poland was superior in Science.
- Albert Brudzewski's proper rotation of the Moon.
- Copernicus's Heliocentric model.
- Michal Sedziwoj's discovery of Oxygen.
- Jozef Struthius's modern Pulse taking methods.
- Jan Heweliusz first map of the Moon
- Kazimierz Siemienowicz Delta wing multistage rocket.
- Marcin Bylica critique of existing Astronomy.
- Alexius Polonus pioneering in sunspot detection.
-Maria Cunitz new tables in Astronomy.
- Maciej Miechowita's pioneering work in benefits of sanitation against epidemics.
- Jan Brozek's theory of numbers, and discovery of why Bee's make Hexagons for storage.
there it is again, the patented polish dumbfuck method of proof - only list polish anecdotes, ignore all others and pronounce Poland superior.
This is easier to prove, because battles are too much to post, or to even grasp.
The most important Renaissance astronomers are Copernicus of Poland, Galileo of Italy, Kepler of Germany, Albert Brudzewski of Poland, Tycho Brahee of Denmark, Jan Heweliusz of Poland, Giordano Bruno of Italy, and Christian Huygens of Holland.
That out of 8 of those, 3 of them are from Poland.
The most important Renaissance Physicians are Flemish Andreas Vesalius, Polish Jozef Struthius, English William Harvey, Italian Leonardo DaVinci, French Jacques Dubois,
and French Ambroise Pare.
1 out of 6 are from Poland.
Out of the 2 pioneers of Rocket Science during the Renaissance.
Polish Kazimierz Siemonowicz, and Conrad Hass an Austrian are the 2 most important.
In Miscellaneous science the most important are Polish Albert Brudzewski, English Francis Bacon, Fausto Venzio from Croatia,
and German Martin Behain.
1 out of 4 are from Poland.
That out of 18 noble scientist of the Renaissance period, 5 are from Poland, 2 are from Germany, 2 from Italy, 2 from England, 2 from France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Holland, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Croatia, and 1 from Flanders.
hmmm, not dominated by polish accomplishment, and being a trained physicist I have never encountered anybody previously asserting how poland used to be number 1.!
A list which acts like Galileo started it all.
When it was Albert Brudzewski, and Copernicus 2 Poles which initiated modern Astronomy.
Why would you hear about Poland?
The West routinely neglects Poland, probably because they're mostly Germanic peoples, and will fight for Germany's claim to Poland.
I think the West is even worse than Russia.
Poland should really be aligning more with Russia.
there is no question Copernicus was great, no argument there, but placing poland number 1 is altogether different
I am a physicist, when we learn our stuff there are a lot of famous results that are named after the inventor/discoverer. Examples: Newton's Second Law, Maxwell's equations, Gauss' Law, etc. ok so I can't even think of one Polish name there, not one off the top of my head. When I start to make the list of great Physicists like Newton, Einstein, Maxwell, Faraday, Feynman, Tesla, Laplace..... I can't even get to a Polish person until I get down to say Rabi or Curie. The list is dominated by Germans and British really. I am neither, so one can't claim I am biased, it is just observation.
meanwhile, congrats to Poland on ranking well behind Sweden in scientific contribution in 2016 despite having 4 times as many people. Ranked number #24, gee I can see why you think Poland is real science powerhouse
The World's Best Countries in Science [Interactive]
1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
Mozambique gained it's Independence since 1975, Poland didn't truly gain it's Independence in 1989.
Actually Poland faced a lot more oppression, and genocide than Mozambique.
So, according to Liberals, Mozambique should have a better record on Science today, as they haven't suffered the same fates as Poland of brutalization.
1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
According to lists like yours, Per capita some of the biggest innovation countries in the Sciences are countries which hardly have any kind of notable Scientific achievements at any point in history, such as Finland, Switzerland, and Ireland.
This proves that while they might come up with a lot of innovation in the Sciences, very little of it is even ground-breaking, or note-wrothy.
China put out one HELL of a lot of shitty papers, they are definitely third.
You think you are making the case that poles are a tough underdog nut-to-crack militarily when they got absolutely smoked in 1939, and they were out numbered by only 3 to 2.
No, Poland was outnumbered 2 to 1 in WW2.
When it came to Tanks Poland was outnumbered by nearly 8 to 1.
You act like Nazi Germany was a tough underdog nut to crack militarily , but they lost to Soviets in WW2.
So, what's the difference?
The difference is Poland was more outnumbered in WW2, than Nazis were.
In the Battle of Stalingrad for example Nazis, and Soviets had nearly equal numbers of forces, and Nazis still lost.
Battle of Stalingrad - Wikipedia
Actually Wikipedia puts Nazis as having more frontline strength in Operation Barbarossa, than Soviets.
Operation Barbarossa - Wikipedia
This was the first truly modern war too, with constant aerial bombardment and battle. Allied commanders needed overwhelming firepower to achieve battle success
Actually, in a modern war, it's less about tactics, and more about how much you can afford to buy.
Poland was a rather new Nation for only 21 years when WW2 hit, as opposed to Germany which was around to build up it's economy much longer.
So, it's no wonder why Germany could afford to spend far more on military.
Pure bullshit- France and England were technology peers, it was German tactics, efficiency, and leadership that mattered. Any analysis of the battle of France comes to that conclusion, it is almost universal consensus, but here genius you comes along and asserts otherwise.
Nazi Germany, and France in WW2 had similar numbers during the Battle of France AKA the French Invasion.
How does that prove that Nazi Germany somehow had more victories when outnumbered?
Yes, Nazi Germany won, but they were hardly outnumbered against France.
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
According to lists like yours, Per capita some of the biggest innovation countries in the Sciences are countries which hardly have any kind of notable Scientific achievements at any point in history, such as Finland, Switzerland, and Ireland.
This proves that while they might come up with a lot of innovation in the Sciences, very little of it is even ground-breaking, or note-wrothy.
China put out one HELL of a lot of shitty papers, they are definitely third.
So, you are admitting a country can put out a lot of shitty papers, and shitty patents that propels the number forward without being ground-breaking?
So, how do you figure Sweden's beating this list of Polish innovations?
Polish Greatness
1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
Mozambique gained it's Independence since 1975, Poland didn't truly gain it's Independence in 1989.
Actually Poland faced a lot more oppression, and genocide than Mozambique.
So, according to Liberals, Mozambique should have a better record on Science today, as they haven't suffered the same fates as Poland of brutalization.
ok, so that is valid but I thought you were asserting today's greatness? It is odd to simultaneously make excuses while asserting greatness.
It is the same Soviet stifling of economic and intellectual achievement that made them suffer at war. The Russian officers dared not do anything outside the box or they would be shot. Only at the top levels, like with Zhukov, was there real innovation and boldness that won battles. Company grade officers simply lined up the men and charged as ordered.
In the Renaissance Poland was superior in Science.
- Albert Brudzewski's proper rotation of the Moon.
- Copernicus's Heliocentric model.
- Michal Sedziwoj's discovery of Oxygen.
- Jozef Struthius's modern Pulse taking methods.
- Jan Heweliusz first map of the Moon
- Kazimierz Siemienowicz Delta wing multistage rocket.
- Marcin Bylica critique of existing Astronomy.
- Alexius Polonus pioneering in sunspot detection.
-Maria Cunitz new tables in Astronomy.
- Maciej Miechowita's pioneering work in benefits of sanitation against epidemics.
- Jan Brozek's theory of numbers, and discovery of why Bee's make Hexagons for storage.
there it is again, the patented polish dumbfuck method of proof - only list polish anecdotes, ignore all others and pronounce Poland superior.
This is easier to prove, because battles are too much to post, or to even grasp.
The most important Renaissance astronomers are Copernicus of Poland, Galileo of Italy, Kepler of Germany, Albert Brudzewski of Poland, Tycho Brahee of Denmark, Jan Heweliusz of Poland, Giordano Bruno of Italy, and Christian Huygens of Holland.
That out of 8 of those, 3 of them are from Poland.
The most important Renaissance Physicians are Flemish Andreas Vesalius, Polish Jozef Struthius, English William Harvey, Italian Leonardo DaVinci, French Jacques Dubois,
and French Ambroise Pare.
1 out of 6 are from Poland.
Out of the 2 pioneers of Rocket Science during the Renaissance.
Polish Kazimierz Siemonowicz, and Conrad Hass an Austrian are the 2 most important.
In Miscellaneous science the most important are Polish Albert Brudzewski, English Francis Bacon, Fausto Venzio from Croatia,
and German Martin Behain.
1 out of 4 are from Poland.
That out of 18 noble scientist of the Renaissance period, 5 are from Poland, 2 are from Germany, 2 from Italy, 2 from England, 2 from France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Holland, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Croatia, and 1 from Flanders.
hmmm, not dominated by polish accomplishment, and being a trained physicist I have never encountered anybody previously asserting how poland used to be number 1.!
A list which acts like Galileo started it all.
When it was Albert Brudzewski, and Copernicus 2 Poles which initiated modern Astronomy.
Why would you hear about Poland?
The West routinely neglects Poland, probably because they're mostly Germanic peoples, and will fight for Germany's claim to Poland.
I think the West is even worse than Russia.
Poland should really be aligning more with Russia.
there is no question Copernicus was great, no argument there, but placing poland number 1 is altogether different
Feynman,
Nobel prize winners in Physics
List of Nobel laureates in Physics - Wikipedia
List of Nobel laureates by country - Wikipedia
Poland 3
Austria 3
Canada 3
Denmark 3
Hungary 3
France 8
Holland 7
Germany 29
UK 22
Russia 7
so don't even bother with some sort of 'poland is great at science' crap
The start of the Scientific Revolution is considered generally when Polish Copernicus formulated the Heliocentric Model, his Polish mentor Albert Brudzewski could be considered part of that, having discovered the proper Rotation of the Moon.
Poland was #1 in Science before the Partitions.
Post Partitions Germans, land Russians limited, or even eliminated Polish education.
Soviets stifled creative potential.
But, Poland's done some pretty good things for Science, once again.
Not that it ever stopped.
This was a pretty important Polish Physicist of the 20th century, for example.
Marian Smoluchowski - Wikipedia
meanwhile, congrats to Poland on ranking well behind Sweden in scientific contribution in 2016 despite having 4 times as many people. Ranked number #24, gee I can see why you think Poland is real science powerhouse
The World's Best Countries in Science [Interactive]
1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
In the Renaissance Poland was superior in Science.
- Albert Brudzewski's proper rotation of the Moon.
- Copernicus's Heliocentric model.
- Michal Sedziwoj's discovery of Oxygen.
- Jozef Struthius's modern Pulse taking methods.
- Jan Heweliusz first map of the Moon
- Kazimierz Siemienowicz Delta wing multistage rocket.
- Marcin Bylica critique of existing Astronomy.
- Alexius Polonus pioneering in sunspot detection.
-Maria Cunitz new tables in Astronomy.
- Maciej Miechowita's pioneering work in benefits of sanitation against epidemics.
- Jan Brozek's theory of numbers, and discovery of why Bee's make Hexagons for storage.
there it is again, the patented polish dumbfuck method of proof - only list polish anecdotes, ignore all others and pronounce Poland superior.
This is easier to prove, because battles are too much to post, or to even grasp.
The most important Renaissance astronomers are Copernicus of Poland, Galileo of Italy, Kepler of Germany, Albert Brudzewski of Poland, Tycho Brahee of Denmark, Jan Heweliusz of Poland, Giordano Bruno of Italy, and Christian Huygens of Holland.
That out of 8 of those, 3 of them are from Poland.
The most important Renaissance Physicians are Flemish Andreas Vesalius, Polish Jozef Struthius, English William Harvey, Italian Leonardo DaVinci, French Jacques Dubois,
and French Ambroise Pare.
1 out of 6 are from Poland.
Out of the 2 pioneers of Rocket Science during the Renaissance.
Polish Kazimierz Siemonowicz, and Conrad Hass an Austrian are the 2 most important.
In Miscellaneous science the most important are Polish Albert Brudzewski, English Francis Bacon, Fausto Venzio from Croatia,
and German Martin Behain.
1 out of 4 are from Poland.
That out of 18 noble scientist of the Renaissance period, 5 are from Poland, 2 are from Germany, 2 from Italy, 2 from England, 2 from France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Holland, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Croatia, and 1 from Flanders.
hmmm, not dominated by polish accomplishment, and being a trained physicist I have never encountered anybody previously asserting how poland used to be number 1.!
A list which acts like Galileo started it all.
When it was Albert Brudzewski, and Copernicus 2 Poles which initiated modern Astronomy.
Why would you hear about Poland?
The West routinely neglects Poland, probably because they're mostly Germanic peoples, and will fight for Germany's claim to Poland.
I think the West is even worse than Russia.
Poland should really be aligning more with Russia.
When I start to make the list of great Physicists like Newton, Einstein, Maxwell, Faraday, Feynman, Tesla, Laplace..... I can't even get to a Polish person until I get down to say Rabi or Curie. The list is dominated by Germans and British really. I am neither, so one can't claim I am biased, it is just observation.
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In the Renaissance Poland was superior in Science.
- Albert Brudzewski's proper rotation of the Moon.
- Copernicus's Heliocentric model.
- Michal Sedziwoj's discovery of Oxygen.
- Jozef Struthius's modern Pulse taking methods.
- Jan Heweliusz first map of the Moon
- Kazimierz Siemienowicz Delta wing multistage rocket.
- Marcin Bylica critique of existing Astronomy.
- Alexius Polonus pioneering in sunspot detection.
-Maria Cunitz new tables in Astronomy.
- Maciej Miechowita's pioneering work in benefits of sanitation against epidemics.
- Jan Brozek's theory of numbers, and discovery of why Bee's make Hexagons for storage.
there it is again, the patented polish dumbfuck method of proof - only list polish anecdotes, ignore all others and pronounce Poland superior.
This is easier to prove, because battles are too much to post, or to even grasp.
The most important Renaissance astronomers are Copernicus of Poland, Galileo of Italy, Kepler of Germany, Albert Brudzewski of Poland, Tycho Brahee of Denmark, Jan Heweliusz of Poland, Giordano Bruno of Italy, and Christian Huygens of Holland.
That out of 8 of those, 3 of them are from Poland.
The most important Renaissance Physicians are Flemish Andreas Vesalius, Polish Jozef Struthius, English William Harvey, Italian Leonardo DaVinci, French Jacques Dubois,
and French Ambroise Pare.
1 out of 6 are from Poland.
Out of the 2 pioneers of Rocket Science during the Renaissance.
Polish Kazimierz Siemonowicz, and Conrad Hass an Austrian are the 2 most important.
In Miscellaneous science the most important are Polish Albert Brudzewski, English Francis Bacon, Fausto Venzio from Croatia,
and German Martin Behain.
1 out of 4 are from Poland.
That out of 18 noble scientist of the Renaissance period, 5 are from Poland, 2 are from Germany, 2 from Italy, 2 from England, 2 from France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Holland, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Croatia, and 1 from Flanders.
hmmm, not dominated by polish accomplishment, and being a trained physicist I have never encountered anybody previously asserting how poland used to be number 1.!
A list which acts like Galileo started it all.
When it was Albert Brudzewski, and Copernicus 2 Poles which initiated modern Astronomy.
Why would you hear about Poland?
The West routinely neglects Poland, probably because they're mostly Germanic peoples, and will fight for Germany's claim to Poland.
I think the West is even worse than Russia.
Poland should really be aligning more with Russia.
I can't even get to a Polish person until I get down to say Rabi or Curie. The list is dominated by Germans and British really. I am neither, so one can't claim I am biased, it is just observation.
but CERN certainly gives Europe claim to that title.1.) #24 out of roughly 200 countries in this World is not bad.
2.) I never said Poland was #1 today, just that it's doing some pretty good things for Science, once again.
3.) Presumably in this list, a lot of the recorded papers, and patents aren't ground-breaking, I'd imagine that when you account ground breaking ones, Poland's probably ahead of Sweden, today in totals at least.
4.) This list, probably doesn't account for Polish brain-drain.
Some of the best Polish scientists of today are in the U.S.A.
Like Nikoderm Poplawski who came up with the theory that every Black Hole has another Universe.
Nikodem Popławski - Wikipedia
Like Aleksander Wolszcazn who discovered the first Pulsar planets, and Planets outside of our Solar System.
Aleksander Wolszczan - Wikipedia
Like Maria Siemionow who pioneered face transplant surgery, and having did the first one in the U.S.A.
Maria Siemionow - Wikipedia
why on earth would anyone want to leave Poland?
yes, #24 is bad if you are trying to assert greatness, sorry
LOL, now you are the arbiter of 'groundbreaking'! here we go, here comes your bullshit. I guess you know more than the nobel committee
Being ranked #24 out of roughly 200 countries, would prove Poland's about in the 15% percentile of the World.
Explain how that's bad, exactly?
You don't compare Poland to Mozambique, you compare Poland to Europeans, and in that grouping they score low
According to lists like yours, Per capita some of the biggest innovation countries in the Sciences are countries which hardly have any kind of notable Scientific achievements at any point in history, such as Finland, Switzerland, and Ireland.
This proves that while they might come up with a lot of innovation in the Sciences, very little of it is even ground-breaking, or note-wrothy.
there it is again, the patented polish dumbfuck method of proof - only list polish anecdotes, ignore all others and pronounce Poland superior.
This is easier to prove, because battles are too much to post, or to even grasp.
The most important Renaissance astronomers are Copernicus of Poland, Galileo of Italy, Kepler of Germany, Albert Brudzewski of Poland, Tycho Brahee of Denmark, Jan Heweliusz of Poland, Giordano Bruno of Italy, and Christian Huygens of Holland.
That out of 8 of those, 3 of them are from Poland.
The most important Renaissance Physicians are Flemish Andreas Vesalius, Polish Jozef Struthius, English William Harvey, Italian Leonardo DaVinci, French Jacques Dubois,
and French Ambroise Pare.
1 out of 6 are from Poland.
Out of the 2 pioneers of Rocket Science during the Renaissance.
Polish Kazimierz Siemonowicz, and Conrad Hass an Austrian are the 2 most important.
In Miscellaneous science the most important are Polish Albert Brudzewski, English Francis Bacon, Fausto Venzio from Croatia,
and German Martin Behain.
1 out of 4 are from Poland.
That out of 18 noble scientist of the Renaissance period, 5 are from Poland, 2 are from Germany, 2 from Italy, 2 from England, 2 from France, 1 from Austria, 1 from Holland, 1 from Denmark, 1 from Croatia, and 1 from Flanders.
hmmm, not dominated by polish accomplishment, and being a trained physicist I have never encountered anybody previously asserting how poland used to be number 1.!
A list which acts like Galileo started it all.
When it was Albert Brudzewski, and Copernicus 2 Poles which initiated modern Astronomy.
Why would you hear about Poland?
The West routinely neglects Poland, probably because they're mostly Germanic peoples, and will fight for Germany's claim to Poland.
I think the West is even worse than Russia.
Poland should really be aligning more with Russia.
I can't even get to a Polish person until I get down to say Rabi or Curie. The list is dominated by Germans and British really. I am neither, so one can't claim I am biased, it is just observation.
Germans, and British have dominated European brutality, and genocide as well.
The intellectual elite of these countries, doesn't necessarily make them smarter as a collective.
China has fared modestly for about the past 800 years, but none the less they top in IQ scores, and also PISA scores.
Actually, I think that the typical Brits, and Germans are a little slow intellectually.
How did Germany go from voting in Hitler, to voting in Merkel?
Neither is a logical choice.
It seems Germans are kind of dumb, and are very thuggish, and violent.... Even if their intellectual elite has been impressive.
Polish and Jewish are white people. Ethnicity and race are different critters. You have the right to post what you want though. If people find it boring, find another thread.Considering the mockery, and slander / libel against Poles I think it's necessary.
Has any ethnic population been more scapegoated, and slandered?
There's so many negative stereotypes upon Poles, like dumb Polak, thieves, criminals, drunks, prostitutes, weak at war, using horses in WW2, starting WW2 in Bromberg Massacre, being the land of the Holocaust, being Nazi collaborators.
Most of these are downright slander / libel, or and many others are extreme exaggerations.
.1.) Are Poles dumb?
Poland in the Renaissance was the European leader in science, even the Scientific Revolution came from Poland thanks to Copernicus, and Albert Brudzewski.
Polish Americans scored a massive 109 IQ.
While Poland's IQ is considered to be 99, this is by no means low.
The PISA scores of Poland are high, the literacy rates of Poland are high, and Poland wins many intellectual competitions like the IBM Battle of the Brains Contest, the University Rover Challenge, the Google Online Marketing Challenge, Google Code Jam, among others.
So, no I wouldn't say Poles are particularly dumb.,
2.) Thieves, or criminals?
Poland was the first European country to successfully hold off slavery.
Poland had no involved in Colonialism, nor the Atlantic Slave Trade of thievery, or Criminality.
As for common criminals?
Poland's murder rate is now lower than the EU average.
There's an extreme exaggeration of Polish as being a particularly criminal population in UK media, and British circles.
But, Poles are estimated to have 6,700 or so criminals yearly, as opposed to 1.19 million criminals yearly in the UK.
This would support that 0.5% of criminals in the UK were Polish, while over 1.0% of the UK was Polish.
So, actually Poles are underrepresented in crime in the UK.
3.) Drunks?
This map shows that Poles were less likely to be diagnosed with alcoholism than most of Northern Europe.
4.) Prostitutes?
Poles have one of the latest ages for losing virginity in Europe.
While, there might be some Polish prostitutes.
Most Polish girls are if anything more prude than most of Europe.
5.) Weak at war?
I don't think anyone has won more battles when outnumbered than Poles.
Quite a few Polish battles come to mind, the Battle of Hodow, Battle of Klushino, Battle of Kircholm, Battle of Lubieszow, Battle of Trembowla, battle of fuengirola etc.
6.( While it's true that Poles had Horse units in WW2.
So did everyone else except Great Britain.
Actually the Nazis, and Soviets each had many times more Horses than Poland.
So, why do many anti-Polish Nazis, and anti-Polish Soviets ignore these facts?
7.) Bromberg Massacre starting before WW2 is not historically accepted.
But, many Nazis, or German sympathizers try, none the less.
I think the fact that Nazi Germany had claimed a Bromberg Massacre was going on since March of 1939, but invaded Czechoslovakia in March of 1939 instead of Poland says all that needs to be said.
8.) While it's true that Poland is where many Concentration Camps are located.
The Nazi Germans had annexed this land.
Furthermore Nazi Germany first put Poles into Auschwitz, rather than Jews.
Up to 100's of thousands of Poles passed through the Concentration Camps, and 100's of thousands of more Poles were killed in Nazi massacres, including Wola Massacre, the Ponary Massace, Operation Tannenberg etc.
9.) Poland was the first nation to fight the Nazis.
After the Nazis had invaded, Poland had the biggest anti-Nazi resistance in occupied Europe.
Poles had the highest number of Righteous Among the Nations risk their lives to save Holocaust victim Jews, some serious names come to mind like Eugene Lazowski, Henryk Slawik, or Irena Sendler.
(This is in spite of the fact that Poland was the only nation in occupied Europe that a death penalty was created for aiding Holocaust Jews.
Zegota was an entire Polish organization which had dedicate their time, lives, and resources to aiding Holocaust victim Jews.
With that said, Poles like all populations of Europe had some Nazi collaborators.
But, there's no recorded Polish Nazi SS units in Europe.
Furthermore even the Jews had some Nazi collaborators.
Actually the Jewish historian Emanuel Ringelblum who lived his last days in the Nazi controlled Warsaw Ghetto, had admitted that Jewish Nazi collaborators of the Jewish Ghetto Police, were more brutal than Polish Nazi collaborators of the Polish Blue Police.
Polacks are decent people. Sorry, I'm just not as offended by this thread as the "other" one.
Y'all ain't superior to shit. That being said, Polacks are alright by me.
I just thought that I'd use my interwebz, and fingertipz to say that I too can post such a thread.
That's fine.Maybe I post a "White Greatness" thread.
Oooh, I may not be as white as some other people, though.
Even though my family's been in America since before it was America.
My skin is olive-ish and I have blonde-ish hair.
If fair is fair, Whites should also have such rights to post the same way.
Although I can't help but to notice quite a few forums allow anti-White comments, but not anti-Black comments.
When the Mongols held their Kurultai to elect a new Khan, all campaigns were aborted and the warriors went home.It is called being objective and fair. Why don't you want to be objective when making your claims? I don't know, maybe you have a polish penis stuck up your ass?you want to claim great battles where the poles lost both the battle and the war, but dismiss anyone else who did the same.
No, you want to ignore Polish victories, and harp on Nazi German's lost.
Why?
Who knows you're a clown.
Objective?
You haven't even come close....None of the groups you mentioned are even competition for Poland's Golden Age...
The best military commander is definitely Genghiz Khan... But... Polish Boleslaw Chrobry, and Jan Sobieski are very close, in fact so are some others.
Furthermore, Poles have a more consistent victory margin than Mongols.
Also Swedes come very close to Poles in victories when outnumbered.
Yes Spartans for only a very brief period.
It's not Nazi Germany, or Confederates, who are even in question.... You sound like a moron to even discuss that.
I am taking Hannibal on offense because I think he would rapidly learn, Napolean for fighting a defense using offense. For digging in and simply holding out as long as possible, that list would be huge, it is a lot easier. Isreal fought and won 3 wars of annilihation in 25 years, I am hiring them if I want to play defense with conventional weapons.
Ghenghiz Khan on offense.
Jan III Sobieski on defense.
Battle of Podhajce (1667) - Wikipedia
Battle of Zboriv (1649) - Wikipedia
Battle of Khotyn (1673) - Wikipedia
Battle of Vienna - Wikipedia
