Polish Greatness

[NCC1701]

you can think it, which means crap unless you show it.

R.E. Lee was outnumbered in every battle he fought, the Spartans maybe? Hannibal and Carthage? the Germans won countless battles against the more numerous Russians with one panzer commander destroying an enemy 7 times larger.

There are countless minor battles in history as well so I doubt you can say this with any authority

Yeah, and Hitler, and Lee lost pretty quickly.

Poland fought since 966 mostly outnumbered.

Only 2 times it fell (Partitions + WW2).

That's a lot longer span.

poland fell in 5 weeks to the Germans, hardly the stuff of greatness

The stuff of Greatness is Poland in 1610.

6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces in the Battle of Klushino in 1610.

Then Poland stormed in 1610 Moscow, capturing, and conquering Russia.

The Russian King paid tribute to Poland as a vassal, in the Russian Homage.

So, Poland did far greater than Nazi Germany did in Russia.

Keep in mind Poland did this 1 vs 2 (Poland vs Russia + Sweden)
As
opposed to Nazis who had a whole bunch of allies like Italy, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Slovakia in WW2 during Operation Barbarosssa)

poland was larger, had russian allies, and russia much weaker in a much longer war, and it doesn't sweep under the rug the 1939 collapse. If you want to make the thesis that poland has been such a great military power then they would have made a better showing of it

Poland had Russian Allies, what are you even talking about?

Seven Boyars - Wikipedia the poles were invited by some russians into Moscow, and russia was in internal disarray, hardly a conquest

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Yeah, and Hitler, and Lee lost pretty quickly.

Poland fought since 966 mostly outnumbered.

Only 2 times it fell (Partitions + WW2).

That's a lot longer span.

poland fell in 5 weeks to the Germans, hardly the stuff of greatness

The stuff of Greatness is Poland in 1610.

6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces in the Battle of Klushino in 1610.

Then Poland stormed in 1610 Moscow, capturing, and conquering Russia.

The Russian King paid tribute to Poland as a vassal, in the Russian Homage.

So, Poland did far greater than Nazi Germany did in Russia.

Keep in mind Poland did this 1 vs 2 (Poland vs Russia + Sweden)
As
opposed to Nazis who had a whole bunch of allies like Italy, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Slovakia in WW2 during Operation Barbarosssa)

poland was larger, had russian allies, and russia much weaker in a much longer war, and it doesn't sweep under the rug the 1939 collapse. If you want to make the thesis that poland has been such a great military power then they would have made a better showing of it

Poland had Russian Allies, what are you even talking about?

Seven Boyars - Wikipedia the poles were invited by some russians into Moscow, and russia was in internal disarray, hardly a conquest

The Russians had help from Sweden, and they had more troops than Poland in the Battle of Klushino.

 

[NCC1701]

poland fell in 5 weeks to the Germans, hardly the stuff of greatness

The stuff of Greatness is Poland in 1610.

6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces in the Battle of Klushino in 1610.

Then Poland stormed in 1610 Moscow, capturing, and conquering Russia.

The Russian King paid tribute to Poland as a vassal, in the Russian Homage.

So, Poland did far greater than Nazi Germany did in Russia.

Keep in mind Poland did this 1 vs 2 (Poland vs Russia + Sweden)
As
opposed to Nazis who had a whole bunch of allies like Italy, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Slovakia in WW2 during Operation Barbarosssa)

poland was larger, had russian allies, and russia much weaker in a much longer war, and it doesn't sweep under the rug the 1939 collapse. If you want to make the thesis that poland has been such a great military power then they would have made a better showing of it

Poland was in perpetual war, since it started.

Far more than other countries, so far more wins.
Yes, more wins, than losses.

List of wars involving Poland - Wikipedia

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

also you are backtracking, fighting against the odds includes modern wars, such as 1939, when poland collapsed in 5 weeks - hardly the stuff of great warriors

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The stuff of Greatness is Poland in 1610.

6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces in the Battle of Klushino in 1610.

Then Poland stormed in 1610 Moscow, capturing, and conquering Russia.

The Russian King paid tribute to Poland as a vassal, in the Russian Homage.

So, Poland did far greater than Nazi Germany did in Russia.

Keep in mind Poland did this 1 vs 2 (Poland vs Russia + Sweden)
As
opposed to Nazis who had a whole bunch of allies like Italy, Romania, Hungary, Croatia, Bulgaria, and Slovakia in WW2 during Operation Barbarosssa)

poland was larger, had russian allies, and russia much weaker in a much longer war, and it doesn't sweep under the rug the 1939 collapse. If you want to make the thesis that poland has been such a great military power then they would have made a better showing of it

Poland was in perpetual war, since it started.

Far more than other countries, so far more wins.
Yes, more wins, than losses.

List of wars involving Poland - Wikipedia

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

 

[NCC1701]

poland was larger, had russian allies, and russia much weaker in a much longer war, and it doesn't sweep under the rug the 1939 collapse. If you want to make the thesis that poland has been such a great military power then they would have made a better showing of it

Poland was in perpetual war, since it started.

Far more than other countries, so far more wins.
Yes, more wins, than losses.

List of wars involving Poland - Wikipedia

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

and sorry, I mistook you for someone who was taking this topic seriously, you just revealed what a clown you are by stating that was your goal. Secondly if that was your goal, then why didn't you state it on the OP? retard

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland was in perpetual war, since it started.

Far more than other countries, so far more wins.
Yes, more wins, than losses.

List of wars involving Poland - Wikipedia

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland was in perpetual war, since it started.

Far more than other countries, so far more wins.
Yes, more wins, than losses.

List of wars involving Poland - Wikipedia

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

and sorry, I mistook you for someone who was taking this topic seriously, you just revealed what a clown you are by stating that was your goal. Secondly if that was your goal, then why didn't you state it on the OP? retard

Actually it took about 45 minutes to write them out too.

That was part of it, but it was funny that Unkotare, and yourself didn't know about all the times Poles beat forces when outnumbered.

 

[Unkotare]

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Ireland's not on the map there, either.

The difference is Ireland lost their nation to Anglos 1 vs 1.

Poland lost their nation fighting most of the biggest empires of Eurasia, and finally fell 1 vs 3 in the Partitions.

 

[ChrisL]

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

Wow! That's pretty amazing, that they managed to win being so outnumbered.

No wonder I'm so tough!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

Wow! That's pretty amazing, that they managed to win being so outnumbered.

No wonder I'm so tough!

The Battle of Hodow 1694, the Battle of Trembowla 1675, and the Siege of Kamenets 1672 are particularly extremely impressive.

Poles are probably even ahead of Spartans in these.

 

[NCC1701]

That list contains rebellions and fighting as conquered battle thralls- bad analysis

Poland would have made a better showing in 1939 if it were a great modern military power

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

that is only half the answer, now show nobody else has as many over that time span

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

that is only half the answer, now show nobody else has as many over that time span

Why don't you prove it?

 

[NCC1701]

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

that is only half the answer, now show nobody else has as many over that time span

Why don't you prove it?

me? you started this thread and made this claim dumbass

 

[ChrisL]

Poland has the most wins when outnumbered, I never said anything about Poland being a modern military power.

you have not demonstrated that, you just keep saying it, big difference

and again, a 'win' when fighting under Napolean is pure BS

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

that is only half the answer, now show nobody else has as many over that time span

So he provides one list for you, but that's still not enough. You demand yet another list? Who do you think you are? Someone important or something? Nobody has to "prove" anything to you. If you want to disprove his claims, then go ahead and do it.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

The idea was to make Unkotare, and yourself look as stupid as possible, before actually listing full lists of Polish battles won when outnumbered.

well that's fucking stupid, because all you are doing is making yourself look stupid by not backing your claim with data

Battle of Kletsk 1506 7,000 Poles beat 20,000 Tatars.

Battle of Obertyn 1531 5,000 Poles beat 17,000 Moldovians.

Battle of Lubieszow 1577 2,000 Poles beat 12,000 Germans.

Battle of Wenden 1601 700 Poles beat 3,000 Swedes.

Battle of Kircholm 1605 3,000 Poles beat 10,000 Swedes.

Battle of Klushino 1610 6,000 Poles beat 35,000 Russian + Swedish forces.

Battle of Khotyn 1621 60,000 Poles beat 150,000 Ottoman Turks.

Battle of Martynow 1624 5,000 Poles beat 15,000 Tatars.

Siege of Azbarazh 1647 10,000 Poles held off 140,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Battle of Bila Tserkva 1651 12,000 Poles beat 50,000 Cossack + Tatar forces.

Siege of Jasna Gora 1655. 310 Poles beat 3,200 Swedes.

Battle of Podhajce 1667 3,000 Polish soldiers, and 6,000 Polish villagers, beat 20,000 Tatars, 15,000 Cossacks, and 3,000 Turkish Janissarries.

Battle of Kamenets 1672 1,500 Poles held off 80,000 Ottoman Turks for 9 days.

Battle of Trembowla 1675 300 Poles held off 30,000 Turks for a month.,

Battle of Hodow 1694 400 Poles beat 40,000 Tatars.

Wilno Uprising 1794 1,500 Poles held off 8,000 Russian forces.

Warsaw Uprising 1794 3,000 Poles beat 8,000 Russian forces.

Battle of Fuengirola 1810 400 Poles beat 3,500 British, and 1,000 Spanish forces.

Battle of Olszynka Grochowska in 1831 36,000 Poles beat 60,000 Russians.

Battle of Kostiuchnowka 1916 5,500 Poles beat 13,000 Russians.

Battle of Komarow 1920 1,700 Poles beat 17,500 Soviets.

Battle of Zadworze 1920 300 Poles tactical Polish victory despite losing against 17,000 Soviets of the First Cavalry Division.

Battle of Wizna 1939 700 Poles held off 42,200 German Nazis for 3 days.

that is only half the answer, now show nobody else has as many over that time span

Why don't you prove it?

me? you started this thread and made this claim dumbass

I originally said Poles probably have more battle wins when outnumbered, than anyone.

I think I proved that point.

I proved that Poles have at least 3 battles similar to Spartan's famous battle of Termopylae.
Being the Battle of Hodow in 1694, the Battle of Trembowla in 1675, and the Siege of Kamanets of 1672.

That's actually more than Sparta, and the full list I posted actually contained more Polish victories when outnumbered than the number of battles Sparta even took place in, actually.

You mention Nazi Germany, which didn't even have many battles when seriously outnumbered.
In fact in the Battle of Stalingrad in 1942 Soviet Russia with a similar number had turned around, and started winning the war.

Napoleon had some somewhat impressive wins like the Battle of Jena- Auerstäd in 1806, Battle of Aspern-Essling in 1809, or Battle of Dresden in 1815, but these are clearly dwarfed by Poland's victories when outnumbered.

But, why don't you prove, otherwise, then?

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

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Polish history is much more interesting than Irish history. "Ahem"

You keep telling yourself that, shit-shoveler.

How do you figure, otherwise?

The French are "fight to the last man" badasses compared to the Polish. The Polish state disappears more often than a rabbit at a magic show.

I don't think anyone has won more battles when outnumbered than the Polish, actually.

you can think it, which means crap unless you show it.

R.E. Lee was outnumbered in every battle he fought,

Wrong, In the Battle of Gaines' Mill Lee had more people.
In the Battle Malvern Hill Lee had more people.
In the Battle Beaver Dam Creek Lee had more people.

Lee was outnumbered in the Battle of Antietam , the Battle of Chancellorsville , the Battle of the Wilderness ,
Battle of Spotsylvania Courthouse ,and the Battle of Fredericksburg or the Battle of Appomattox Court House .

So, what?

None of this proves your suggestion that Lee may have won more Battles when outnumbered than Poles.

Actually it proves much the opposite.

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

Source: Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw
Reserarchers at the Quantum Memory Laboratory at the Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw have built a quantum memory capable of storing 665 quantum states of light simultaneously - reported the Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw in a release sent to PAP. Researchers used a cloud of laser-cooled atoms to achieve this.

The results of the experiment have been published in the prestigious scientific journal Nature Communications.

According to the release, memory is an indispensable element in any information processing process. Just like you cannot build a classic computer without RAM, it is not possible to build a quantum computer without the so-called quantum memory. It is a device capable of storing a superposition of quantum states that can be reproduced on the memory user\'s command. The key parameter of such a memory is its capacity, meaning the number of qubits (quantum bits) that memory can effectively process.

Simultaneous operation on many qubits is the key to efficient parallel quantum computing that offers new opportunities in the fields of imaging or communication. Particularly high amount of such information can be encoded with many photons with precisely controlled properties.

"Regardless of the efforts, the production of multiple photons on demand is an experimental challenge for all groups dealing with quantum information processing. Currently popular combining multiple single photon emitters into one network ("multiplexing" popular in telecommunications) has the disadvantage that with the increase in number the needed photons, technical complexity rapidly increases" - the release reads.

Researchers explain that the use of quantum memory in the generation process causes a dramatic reduction in the waiting time for the production of ten to twenty photons (a number sufficient to make elementary quantum calculations) from several years to seconds. Currently, there are many ways of storing, as well as coding information about emitted photons. A promising idea is to use information on the emission angles of photons, which in combination with a camera sensitive to single photons allows direct registration of the light emitted from the memory.

The quantum memory constructed at the Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw can store several hundred states of light simultaneously - which is a world record. Solutions from other research groups now allow for the simultaneous storage of photons in up to several dozen states.

"The heart of the system built at the University of Warsaw is the so-called magneto-optical trap (MOT): a group of rubidium atoms in a glass vacuum chamber is trapped and cooled to 20 microkelvins with lasers and a magnetic field. The memory protocol is based on non-resonance light scattering on atoms: in the recording process, we illuminate a cold cloud of atoms with a laser, which results in photons being emitted at random angles, then recorded by a sensitive camera" - explain experts from the Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw.

According to physicists from the University of Warsaw, information on the directions of dispersion is stored inside the set of atoms in the form of collective excitations (so-called spin waves) that can be reconstructed on demand in the form of another group of photons. Measurement of the correlation between the direction of photons emitted during the recording and reading from the memory allows to conclude that the experiment produces light, the properties of which can not be described using classical optics.

The prototype quantum memory from the Faculty of Physics of the University of Warsaw occupies two large optical tables and functions thanks to nine lasers and three computers that control its operation.

Researchers emphasized that the quantum memory created at the Warsaw university is unique in one more respect. Information about all photons emitted from memory is stored in the same volume of atoms that share the saved information. This allowed to observe the interference of two spin waves originating from the atoms in the external magnetic field, described by a different set of quantum numbers.

"In the future, this will allow further, more complicated manipulation of the state of atoms, and ultimately the production of individual photons with parameters controlled by the experimenters" - explained the head of the Quantum Memory Laboratory, Dr. Wojciech Wasilewski.

PAP - Science in Poland

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• http://scienceinpoland.pap.pl/en/news/news%2C27685%2Crecord-capacity-quantum-memory-built-university-warsaw.html

 

[Taz]

"Polish Greatness"

The country whose motto is: We Surrender!!!

 

[SobieskiSavedEurope]

"Polish Greatness"

The country whose motto is: We Surrender!!!

Proven very wrong above.