Pocahontas not an Indian

[TroglocratsRdumb]

Elizabeth Warren looks more like John Denver in drag than an Indian.

 

[westwall]

No one has proved Liz Warren does not have Native American heritage

She has by her unwillingness to take a simple test. A test who's cost has been offered free of charge.

Yet we live in a country which advertises that one is innocent until proven guilty.

Indeed we do. Funny how those ideas only apply to those you like.

 

[Moonglow]

No one has proved Liz Warren does not have Native American heritage

She has by her unwillingness to take a simple test. A test who's cost has been offered free of charge.

Yet we live in a country which advertises that one is innocent until proven guilty.

Indeed we do. Funny how those ideas only apply to those you like.

Well in all fairness it is more fun to crack a nut when it makes a loud snap than to grasp at one already injured..

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

It Looks Like America Is Finally Going To Have A Native American Congresswoman

No not her

Her

Arent you at least a little bit pissed that Phocahontas has lied to you?

 

[rightwinger]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

It Looks Like America Is Finally Going To Have A Native American Congresswoman

No not her

Her

Arent you at least a little bit pissed that Phocahontas has lied to you?

She lied to no one
Aren’t you embarrassed by Trumps 3000 lies?

 

[sealybobo]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

It Looks Like America Is Finally Going To Have A Native American Congresswoman

No not her

Her

Arent you at least a little bit pissed that Phocahontas has lied to you?

About being Indian? No, I mind lying us into Iraq and colluding with russia and the conflicts of interests. I don’t care about bjs and proclaiming you’re an indian

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

It Looks Like America Is Finally Going To Have A Native American Congresswoman

No not her

Her

Arent you at least a little bit pissed that Phocahontas has lied to you?

About being Indian? No, I mind lying us into Iraq and colluding with russia and the conflicts of interests. I don’t care about bjs and proclaiming you’re an indian

So when Bill Clinton and Al Gore said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, you were pissed at them for lying to you? Are you pissed that Hillary Clinton was the one who paid 12 million dollarsfor the Russian Dossier so they can try to pin BS on the Don?

 

[rightwinger]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

It Looks Like America Is Finally Going To Have A Native American Congresswoman

No not her

Her

Arent you at least a little bit pissed that Phocahontas has lied to you?

About being Indian? No, I mind lying us into Iraq and colluding with russia and the conflicts of interests. I don’t care about bjs and proclaiming you’re an indian

So when Bill Clinton and Al Gore said there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, you were pissed at them for lying to you? Are you pissed that Hillary Clinton was the one who paid 12 million dollarsfor the Russian Dossier so they can try to pin BS on the Don?

Neither advocated invasion

Only Bush was stupid enough to invade Iraq

 

[xyz]

If it's o.k. to call someone after arguably the most famous Native American woman, then it should be o.k. to call Drumpf "Adolf" after the most famous German.

I know he shares very few qualities, is a sloppy dresser, overweight, friends with ex-KGB, hates animals, dumb, other leaders' puppet, etc. But it should be o.k.

 

[sealybobo]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

 

[miketx]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

How to Stop Lying

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

No proof the spit was hers. Trump should demand another test, witnessed and secure, before he pays a dime.

 

[idb]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

No proof the spit was hers. Trump should demand another test, witnessed and secure, before he pays a dime.

If she was going to fake it why wouldn't she give herself a greater percentage of Indian-ness?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

No proof the spit was hers. Trump should demand another test, witnessed and secure, before he pays a dime.

If she was going to fake it why wouldn't she give herself a greater percentage of Indian-ness?

The matter of finding someone who won't tell.

 

[Pogo]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

Typical of the ballsack-free wimp. Just like the birferism. And just like that contribution to veterans. And denying the existence of "John Miller" and ever being for the Iraq war. Just like trying to suggest he wasn't mocking Serge Kovaleski and that the voice on the bus wasn't his. When you're a self-deluded narcissist you just make up your past history as you go along --- the fact that there's audio and video PROVING you did indeed say that becomes just an inconvenience that can be just wished away, on the basis that you can't deal with it, therefore it doesn't exist.

This man is seriously brain damaged.

 

[sealybobo]

Straight from the horse's mouth.

On Wednesday night, a Cherokee genealogist told Fox News host Tucker Carlson that there is no proof Democratic Senator Elizabeth Warren is Native American, despite her persistent claims.

Genealogist Twila Barnes told Carlson that Warren is "not enrolled" with the tribe.

"She has no family on the rolls, she has no indication of Indian ancestry anywhere in her lineage," explained Barnes.

So, will this force her to take a DNA test now?



I really enjoy Tucker. He gets a lot of good stuff. The story is @ WATCH: Cherokee Genealogist: No, Elizabeth Warren Is Not Native American

Actually she is an indian and Trump owes her $1 million dollars.

After Warren proves Native American ancestry, Trump pretends he didn’t make $1M charitable offer

Typical of the ballsack-free wimp. Just like the birferism. And just like that contribution to veterans. And denying the existence of "John Miller" and ever being for the Iraq war. Just like trying to suggest he wasn't mocking Serge Kovaleski and that the voice on the bus wasn't his. When you're a self-deluded narcissist you just make up your past history as you go along --- the fact that there's audio and video PROVING you did indeed say that becomes just an inconvenience that can be just wished away, on the basis that you can't deal with it, therefore it doesn't exist.

This man is seriously brain damaged.

No! The people who vote for him are seriously brain damaged. And the Americans who don't vote are just as brain damaged as them.

The 2000's went according to plan for Bush and Trump is getting his way now.

And the people who defend Trump, when the next recession hits because of his tax breaks, will blame Elizabeth Warren and Hillary Clinton. They are incapable of being wrong.

Here is a great example. They told us for 16 years Bush did not lie us into Iraq. Then they went and voted for Trump after he said Bush lied us into Iraq.

Yes, Trump Said Bush 'Lied' - FactCheck.org

Donald Trump on Fox News denied that he ever accused President George W. Bush of lying about weapons of mass destruction in Iraq. “I didn’t say lie,” Trump said. “I said he may have lied.” That’s false. Trump at least twice — most recently in a debate last month — said Bush “lied.”

Bill O’Reilly, host of Fox News’ “The O’Reilly Factor,” told Trump (4:06 mark) that he disagreed with Trump on Bush’s motives for invading Iraq in 2003. “I disagree with you vehemently about George Bush, the younger, lying on purpose to get us into a war with Iraq,” O’Reilly said.

ut Trump did say Bush lied, and on more than one occasion.

In the Feb. 13 debate in South Carolina, debate moderator John Dickerson asked Trump about an October 2008 interview in which Trump said it would have been a “wonderful thing” if Democratic Rep. Nancy Pelosi tried to impeach Bush because he lied about Iraq having weapons of mass destruction. Asked if he still believes that Bush should have been impeached, Trump called the Iraq war a “big fat mistake.” Pressed again for an answer, Trump went on to say, “They lied.”

 

[sealybobo]

Trump, Feb. 13: You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

So either Republicans voted for Trump after he said this crazy thing, or they deep down know Bush lied us into Iraq but Republicans are incapable of admitting they are or were ever wrong.

 

[The Purge]

Warren’s DNA test mocked, as GOP cites study showing average Native-American link could be stronger
Fox News ^

Sen. Elizabeth Warren’s heavily promoted DNA test showing she likely has some Native-American ancestry ended up handing more fodder to Republican critics, who pointed out the test results indicate she could actually have less Native-American heritage than the average European American.

 

[Pogo]

Trump, Feb. 13: You call it whatever you want. I want to tell you. They lied. They said there were weapons of mass destruction; there were none. And they knew there were none. There were no weapons of mass destruction.

So either Republicans voted for Trump after he said this crazy thing, or they deep down know Bush lied us into Iraq but Republicans are incapable of admitting they are or were ever wrong.

I would say not "Republicans" but "Rump-pologists" as there is a goodly number of genuine Republicans who see right through this bullshit and have all along. The Rump-pologist however lives in the same world of self-delusion that Rump feeds them like so much candy. And they walk ooze among us. "Walk" would be too dignified a word as it implies sentience.

 

[The Purge]

Analysis: Elizabeth Warren's Latest 'Native American' Defense is a Cringe-worthy Embarrassment
Townhall.com ^ | October 15, 2018 | Guy Benson

Katie mentioned this story earlier -- but having written about Sen. Warren's stolen privilege in my book, I wanted to take a crack at this new information, too. In case you missed it, Warren has released a new "fact" sheet about her supposed Native American heritage, along with an online video:

My family (including Fox News-watchers) sat together and talked about what they think of @realDonaldTrump’s attacks on our heritage. And yes, a famous geneticist analyzed my DNA and concluded that it contains Native American ancestry. pic.twitter.com/r3SNzP22f8— Elizabeth Warren (@elizabethforma) October 15, 2018


Conspicuously absent from this mini-film? Any actual Native Americans. The clip does, however, show (a) various members of her family confirming that there was "Indian" folklore in their history, (b) various faculty and officials from law schools where she taught praising her skill and denying any knowledge of her claimed ethnicity playing a role in her hiring, and (c) a genealogist concluding that she has Native American blood in her heritage. All of this content is interspersed with snippets of President Trump ridiculing Warren as "Pocahontas," setting up an obvious dichotomy aimed at Democratic primary voters: Ingest my spin, or side with Trump. What to make of this? These two top takeaways strike me as correct:

Elizabeth Warren releases a DNA test that confirms she’s between 1/32 and 1/512 Native American.

1. Guess she’s running.
2. Bad move. Will make criticism on her faking background sharper.— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) October 15, 2018


By the way, the Boston Globe has since corrected its math: The test found that she might be somewhere between 1/64th and 1/1,024th (!) "Native American," the definition of which included Mexican, Colombian and Peruvian DNA as a "stand in." Yes, really. Science says that she may actually be less Native American than the average white American:

“The researchers found that European-Americans had genomes that were on average 98.6 percent European, .19 percent African, and .18 Native American.”

0.18 appoximately equals 1/512, or 1/(2^9) The New York Times on Twitter— George Conway (@gtconway3d) October 15, 2018


This very much leaves open the wildly entertaining possibility that Donald Trump is, in fact, more "Native American" than Elizabeth Warren. But anyway, yes, she's obviouslyrunning for president, and she knows that this issue will cause headaches among not only right-leaning voters who already oppose her, but also among progressive voters who might hold certain Identity Politics infractions against her. Keep in mind that Warren had previously claimed to be part Cherokee, an assertion hotly refuted by real Cherokees, including a young woman writing at a far-left website:

She is not from us. She does not represent us. She is not Cherokee...In defending her supposed Native identity, Warren has drawn from both racist stereotypes and easily refutable stories about her family.At a 2012 press conference Warren stated that her family knew her grandfather was “part” Cherokee because “he had high cheekbones like all of the Indians.” Cherokee genealogists have pored through her family history to find that “None of her direct line ancestors are ever shown to be anything other than white, dating back to long before the Trail of Tears.” To add insult to injury, despite Warren’s public claims of Native American heritage, she has decidedly avoided talking with Native leaders...

Warren seems to have dropped the "Cherokee" piece of her story, apparently hoping that we'll all forget about that chapter of this ongoing embarrassment. Because identity is a central element of how the modern Left operates, the 'Native American' controversy could be a problem for Warren, and she knows it. She feels like she has no choice but to tackle the issue head-on, even if her defenses are weak. And they're exceedingly, risibly weak. Nobody is going to hold some family whispers against Warren, and it appears clear that at least some members of her family heard and internalized the same rumors. But that doesn't explain Warren's actions. According to the Boston Globe, Warren listed herself as "white" and a non-minority early in her career, then made a significant shift around a significant date:

The Globe has also obtained a portion of Warren’s 1973 application to Rutgers, where she attended law school. That document specifically asks: “Are you interested in applying for admission under the Program for Minority Group Students?’’ Warren answered “no.’’ In addition, a newly unearthed University of Texas personnel document shows that Warren listed herself as “white’’ when she taught at the law school there from 1981 to 1991. The undated document, obtained by the Globe through a public records request, supports Warren’s statement that she did not present herself as a Native American when hired for the job. But it leaves open the question of why she later listed herself as a minority in a legal directory that is often consulted by hiring deans. Warren’s employment document at the University of Texas allowed her to check multiple boxes specifying “the racial category or categories with which you most closely identify.’’ The options included “American Indian or Alaskan Native,’’ but she chose only white.

So in the 1970's and early 1980's, Warren self-identified as white. When did that change?


The emergence of the University of Texas form does not explain why Warren listed herself as a minority in a widely used Association of American law Schools directory from 1986 through 1995. Warren has said she was proud of her Native American heritage and that she was hoping to connect with “people like me.’’ The directory, however, did not list her as someone with Native American heritage. It simply said “minority.’’ Harvard Law School also touted Warren as a Native American in the Harvard Crimson when it was under fire for a lack of diversity on its faculty. Leonard P. Strickman, founding dean at Florida International University, one of the nation’s most diverse law schools, said deans often consult the Association of American Law Schools directory when seeking out minority applicants, but look more rigorously at scholarship before making hires.
She chose to list herself as a minority in this influential professional publication ("often consulted by hiring deans") in 1986. She was offered a teaching position Penn, an Ivy League institution, in early 1987. Imagine that. She then continued to 'check the box' through 1995, which happened to be the year that she received a tenured position at Harvard Law School. Warren and her defenders insist that this timing is coincidental and that her formalized self-description as a racial minority played no role in her jump into the Ivies -- even though both Penn and Harvard were under immense pressure to enhance faculty diversity at the time, and each subsequently touted her in literature as a minority. She has claimed she didn't even know they were celebrating her as a minority, but her story has evolved. That strains credulity. It becomes even more dubious when you consider her ludicrous explanationfor why she suddenly dropped the "minority" posture after reaching the pinnacle of her career path at Harvard:

Warren's explanation to the Boston Herald was that she listed herself as a minority in the hopes that she would be invited to a luncheon so she could meet "people who are like I am" and she stopped checking the box when that didn't happen. Perhaps it "didn't happen" because at no point, at any of the schools she attended or worked at, is there any evidence that Warren ever joined any Native American organizations on campus or in any way interacted with anyone in the Native American community.

This is insulting. She listed herself as a minority in hopes of getting invited to luncheons -- then, after not even attempting to join any Native American groups -- she de-listed herself the very same year that she attained tenure at Harvard? And she supposedly did so because no such invitations had arrived over the previous near-decade? Only the most credulous Warren supporter (several of the professors and administrator defending her have donated to her campaigns) could advance that line with a straight face. But wait, it turns out some invitations did arrive after she arrived at HLS, where she was hailed as a Native American faculty member...and she rejected them:

Dr. Gavin Clarkson, a citizen of the Choctaw Nation who received both a doctorate and a law degree from Harvard while Warren was a professor, says he "personally invited" her three times to visit with Harvard's Native American Law Student Association (NALSA), which he headed while attaining his dual degree. Warren, who had identified as a minority in law professor directories and was touted by Harvard as a Native American hire, never accepted his invites. "I was on campus at Harvard for five years, from 1998 to 2003," Clarkson said. "Warren was identified in the AALS law teacher directory as an American Indian faculty member." "Hi, we're the Native American students on campus and it would be nice to meet the only Native American professor on the faculty," was the message Clarkson was attempting to get across, but he says he was dismissed by Warren every time.

Warren can trot out as many supportive colleagues from her various law schools as she likes (misleadingly, a number of those featured in the video were from universities where she taught before she decided to classify herself as a minority), but this simple fact pattern remains: Several Ivy League schools were beset with faculty diversity crises in the 1980's and 1990's. Warren started checking the minority box just prior to getting hired into the Ivy League, then ceased checking the box just after she got tenure at Harvard, nine years later. Her explanation for this timeline is patently absurd. And the publication in which she self-identified as a minority was known to be a "tip sheet" for administrators looking to hire minority professors. It very much looks like her little gambit worked. And now she's trying to frame all of this as a nasty attack by Donald Trump. Relatedly, notice her jab at Fox News in the original tweet. She's trying to power through this mess with naked appeals to, um, tribal politics. It's humiliating. Also, Allahpundit asks a good question. How does this nonsense interact with the new Left's various identity-driven 'social justice' pieties?

If Warren is Native American because she might have had a single native ancestor hundreds of years ago, various Republican pols who might have remote native or black or Latino or Arab ancestors should logically be able to claim membership in those groups by dint of their own faint genetic link. And if 1/1024th is enough to make Warren Native American, progressives will have to rethink about their views on “cultural appropriation.” If one ancestor 300 years ago is enough to entitle you to “appropriate” a particular culture, there’ll be very few cultures that can’t properly be appropriated by the average white American.

I'll leave you with Barack Obama's 2012 campaign manager venting frustration about the timing of this roll-out:

Argue the substance all you want, but why 22 days before a crucial election where we MUST win house and senate to save America, why did @SenWarren have to do her announcement now? Why can’t Dems ever stay focused???— Jim Messina (@Messina2012) October 15, 2018


This isn't much of a riddle, really. She's a lock for re-election in Massachusetts, and the sooner she can get the media to yawn at her racial fraud controversy as "old news," the better it is for her presidential bid. So she's trying to shove the story out into the open as early as possible, while daring Democratic voters to side with Trump over her.


Commissioned and paid for fake results , no doubt!