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No, you put it all on the Pals.Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
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You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.
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No, you put it all on the Pals.Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
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Bullshit. The Palestinian's have consistently stated they're willing to accept a two state solution based on the '67 borders, but it was ISRAEL, that said no.There's no solution to this, just permanent periodic flare ups. The Palestinians were offered '67 borders and said no, and they really just want Israel, and its 1st world economy, to go away. Saudi Arabia might get more involved if an oil patch was discovered under Ramallah, but otherwise they just stay out of it.
All these "flare ups", are a direct result of the occupation. End that and you end the violence.The periodic flare ups of intifatahs, rocket launches, suicide bombs, etc, has gone on for 30 years, and will go for at least another 30 with no solution. The crazy right wing Jews aren't leaving the West Bank in spite of being a small fraction of the population, and the foolish West Bank Palestinians aren't giving up their dreams of taking over Tel Aviv and Haifa in spite of the growing Jewish population in Israel.
This is what you said...Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
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Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
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During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".
Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.
"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
He is, of course, a liar. Palestinians aren't brainwashed with hate. But a fringe group of Americans are certainly brainwashed with it.
That is, without a doubt, the most foolish statement I've seen on these boards in quite some time......Palestinians aren't brainwashed with hate...
He is, of course, a liar. Palestinians aren't brainwashed with hate. But a fringe group of Americans are certainly brainwashed with it.
How many Palestinian-Israeli marriages do you think there are?
Really? what history book did you get that from? Bloodshed over religious and cultural difference has been the norm in that region for thousands of years.They did before the Zionists showed up.
Ummm..No it not, it's a recognition of the facts on the ground, it's not like the Jews are completely alien to the particular patch of ground is it? Their history and culture is centered there after all. I simply recognize that the only way to curb the irrational violence is to separate these two peoples as much as possible and since the Israeli's are the ones holding the reins of power they are not going anywhere, if the Palestinians "aren't going anywhere" as you put it then this violence is not going to end (or it's end isn't going to be pretty).The Palestinian's are not going anywhere.
For you to say they have to move, is like saying it was okay for Hitler to annex Poland.
Are you claiming there's not a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to exist? Or are you only referring to the West Bank?The only option the Israeli's have, is to comply with international law and get the fuck off land that isn't theirs! After 50 years, there isn't a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to that land. Catch the fucking clue!
I don't trust the Israeli government. They're right wing zealots, that remind me of the neocons in this country, of whom I truly despise.Oh, there are very few. You see, the state of Israel outlawed such marriages years ago. Palestinian-Israeli marriages are illegal.
Did you hear that? Israeli-Palestinian marriages are illegal.
Doesn't that strike you as a little bit of a problem? And yet you still trust the Israeli government?
Actually, I discussed a culture of which the Palestinians are only a part.No, you put it all on the Pals.Yep, sure did, I addressed the OP. But they're still facts.
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You didn't say anything about Israeli atrocities.
That's Mr. Really to you!Really?
There are no recorded incidents of major violence in that area between the two groups, until the Zionist migration.what history book did you get that from? Bloodshed over religious and cultural difference has been the norm in that region for thousands of years.
It is exactly the same. The Israeli's are trying to acquire land by force, which has been outlawed since the end of WWII. It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.Ummm..No it not, it's a recognition of the facts on the ground, it's not like the Jews are completely alien to the particular patch of ground is it? Their history and culture is centered there after all. I simply recognize that the only way to curb the irrational violence is to separate these two peoples as much as possible and since the Israeli's are the ones holding the reins of power they are not going anywhere, if the Palestinians "aren't going anywhere" as you put it then this violence is not going to end (or it's end isn't going to be pretty).
Country's recognize Israel's right to exist. Even I recognize Israel exists. But they don't have a right to and the way they are acting with the Palestinian's, they don't deserve to.Are you claiming there's not a single country on the planet that recognizes Israel's right to exist? Or are you only referring to the West Bank?
Of coarse its not happening in a vacuum.Actually, I discussed a culture of which the Palestinians are only a part.
The fact that that culture is not limited to that specific geographic area is important.
It's not happening in a vacuum.
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Ex'es, can be a bitch!Thank goodness there's no hate here:
Israeli police on Sunday blocked more than 200 far-right Israeli protesters from rushing guests at the wedding of a Jewish woman and Muslim man as they shouted 'death to the Arabs'
Mixed couple forced to hire security and marry amid protests
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780
During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".
Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.
"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
So we agree that they are specifically teaching their children to hate & kill, and that it is happening in other geographic regions within that culture as well. Okay.Of coarse its not happening in a vacuum.Actually, I discussed a culture of which the Palestinians are only a part.
The fact that that culture is not limited to that specific geographic area is important.
It's not happening in a vacuum.
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But Palestinian's are not teaching their children to hate because of their religion or ideology, it's because of all the bombs Israel is dropping on their heads. It is because Israel has denied them their inalienable rights, for over 70 years.
It's too late for either a one-state or two-state solution.
Decades too late.
The Palestinians have to go.
It's just a matter of how.
Walking, or carried out.
Their choice.
LOL, okay sorry Mr. Really... or do you prefer your more formal title, Sir Really?That's Mr. Really to you!Really?
This area has been a center of violence and conquest for 3000 years (going back to Judah and the Israelites setting Jerusalem as their capital), it's changed hands through violence so many times that it's hard to keep track, the Babylonians, the Romans, Arabic Muslims, European Christians, the Ottomans, the British, etc..,etc.., have all gotten a piece of the bloodshed action. The Palestinians have no special claim to this land nor were they paragons of virtue when it came to dealing with minority cultures and religions during their dominance of the area.There are no recorded incidents of major violence in that area between the two groups, until the Zionist migration.
Again are you referring Israel proper or just the occupied territories? If it's Israel proper you don't have much of a leg to stand on, if it's the occupied territories then your point is legitimate, however the Palestinian dispute isn't limited to occupied territories they want the whole enchilada and have been using organized violence to attempt to achieve their goals since the get go, so as I originally pointed out this barbarity is of BOTH sides making.It is exactly the same. The Israeli's are trying to acquire land by force, which has been outlawed since the end of WWII. It is illegal to hold onto land seized in a war.
Good, I'm glad you are not disputing Israel's right to exist, I don't disagree on the legality of the occupied territories (although Gaza no longer falls into that category) and I think East Jerusalem is not as clear cut given that dividing a city into multiple parts doesn't make a whole heck of a lot of sense.Country's recognize Israel's right to exist. Even I recognize Israel exists. But they don't have a right to and the way they are acting with the Palestinian's, they don't deserve to.
But I am referring to the West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem. Those are the "occupied territories" and they will never be Israel's.
You're damn right Palestinian's are being taught to hate!Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
Israel's ambassador to the UN claims Palestinian children are being "taught to hate" as violent clashes continue in the West Bank.
View attachment 52780
During his speech, Mr Danon held up a piece of card with a diagram of a human body entitled "How to Stab a Jew", which he said was "an example of what Palestinian children are being exposed to day in and day out, in school, after school".
Sky News has been unable to verify Mr Danon's claims, in which he said: "When a Palestinian child returns from school and opens (sic) the television, he doesn't see Barney or Donald Duck, he sees murderers portrayed as heroes.
"When he opens a textbook, he doesn't learn about math and science, he's being taught to hate."
Israel: Palestinians 'Brainwashed With Hate'
They're being taught to hate by:
Israeli kids, on the other hand, are being taught:
- Israeli tyranny
- A brutal occupation of their homeland
- An immoral blockade of their city
- Watching their parents being humiliated at a checkpoints
- Watching their relatives murdered by the IDF
- Watching whole families being wiped out by 2000 pound bombs
- Watching post after post in this very forum trashing them and their culture 24/7
- They are the "chosen" ones
- The Palestinian's are sub-human
- The Palestinian's are savages and animals
- They Palestinian's have no right to be there
- This is a Jewish State, not an Arab one
- The Holocaust allows them to do whatever they feel like doing, that includes killing Palestinian's in cold blood, taking their homes, wiping out their families, burning their children to death, etc
That's the short list.