Please share with me what you are doing to support our troops

aps said:
Well, I live in the DC area. Do you know how DC voted in the 2004 election? Kerry got 90% of the votes. Somehow I highly doubt that people here would ridicule me. But if it makes you feel better to say that, go right ahead. God forbid you answer the question posed in this thread.

Oh, by the way, the majority of Americans now think the war is a mistake, so maybe the ridicule wouldn't be so bad elsewhere:

Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq a mistake. That figure is the highest recorded in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/19/bush.poll/

The reason we're not answering the question is because it is asinine. You are attempting to make yourself seem righteous by 'calling us out' about supporting the troops while telling us all the 'awesome' stuff you do to support the troops. It's a pissing contest, and I'm not participating.
 
Hobbit said:
The reason we're not answering the question is because it is asinine. You are attempting to make yourself seem righteous by 'calling us out' about supporting the troops while telling us all the 'awesome' stuff you do to support the troops. It's a pissing contest, and I'm not participating.

Okay, don't participate. Why you would think I would ask this question to make myself seem righteous is beyond me. But that's cool.
 
aps said:
I am a lawyer. Words have meaning to me.

No. Their meanings change to suit your needs. For instance, earlier you referred to discussing politics as "shouting your opinions to the world" or whatever you said. Then when I USE YOUR OWN PHRASE and call discussing politics "shouting your opinons to the world", all the sudden "shouting your opinion to the world" is not an appopriate phrase to use to describe discussing politics.

You twist words in order to backpedal, and/or, avoid the issue.

We know how lawyers use words, deceptively.
 
aps said:
Well, I live in the DC area. Do you know how DC voted in the 2004 election? Kerry got 90% of the votes. Somehow I highly doubt that people here would ridicule me. But if it makes you feel better to say that, go right ahead. God forbid you answer the question posed in this thread.

Oh, by the way, the majority of Americans now think the war is a mistake, so maybe the ridicule wouldn't be so bad elsewhere:

Fifty-nine percent said they considered the 2003 invasion of Iraq a mistake. That figure is the highest recorded in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll.

http://www.cnn.com/2005/POLITICS/09/19/bush.poll/

I don't put much stake in polls. After all........when one says "the majority of Americans".........and not once have I been polled and I've yet to talk to anyone who has been polled, makes me wonder just who these "Americans" really are.

So...........perhaps it's the majority of those Americans who have been polled, rather than the majority of all Americans. I'm sure that if the survey was taken from a sample of DC residents and then extrapolated it would seem that the majority think the war is a mistake.


The only poll I really pay attention is what happens in the voting booth on election day. Now, that one counts.
 
kurtsprincess said:
I don't put much stake in polls. After all........when one says "the majority of Americans".........and not once have I been polled and I've yet to talk to anyone who has been polled, makes me wonder just who these "Americans" really are.

So...........perhaps it's the majority of those Americans who have been polled, rather than the majority of all Americans. I'm sure that if the survey was taken from a sample of DC residents and then extrapolated it would seem that the majority think the war is a mistake.


The only poll I really pay attention is what happens in the voting booth on election day. Now, that one counts.

Well, KP, I am sure if the poll showed that the majority of Americans polled supported the war and all that good stuff, you would sing that poll's praises.
 
Only libs would considering skewing polls to be valid, positive politcal activity.
 
aps said:
I just don't get why people can't tell me what they are doing to support the troops without denigrating me or anyone else who doesn't support the war? Are any of you capable of providing a positive response? I feel sorry for people when the only way they can say something good about themselves is by attacking others. That's pretty sad.

Our support is intangible Proud............which can't be listed and we already do all the tangible things you've listed.

Just asking the question shows that you lack understanding of the type of support the troops need.
 
aps said:
Well, KP, I am sure if the poll showed that the majority of Americans polled supported the war and all that good stuff, you would sing that poll's praises.

No............I would think it was just as biased as all of them.

As I said.........the only poll I trust is the one that is created on election day.
 
kurtsprincess said:
Our support is intangible Proud............which can't be listed and we already do all the tangible things you've listed.

Just asking the question shows that you lack understanding of the type of support the troops need.

You can say the former paragraph without the latter. But if it makes you feel better, KP................
 
Are you going to tell us why you're discussing politics now, when you've admitted it's not normally part of who you are? What motivated you to come here? Fear? Desperation? Or you can just try to pretend you never said such a thing with your various obfuscation techniques, backtracking, changing definitions mid thread, etc.
 
I agree that the most important support is intangible. If you don't actually support their mission, then you are hurting them. I give them the utmost respect, as I do policemen and firefighters. All of these groups put their lives on the line for us, and deserve every consideration.

I don't charge any of these groups for my medical services, ever. If I'm at a bar and see someone in the service there, I will always buy them a round. I send monthly packages of beef jerky through anysoldier.com. I vote Republican for the most part because I know that most of the Democrats do not have the best interests of the military in mind, and are less interested in keeping our country safe. A Democratic vote for a congressional or presidential candidate is hurting the military, not supporting them. I don't have any widdle stickers on my car, because they are worthless. I do participate in several forums like this to try to explain things to future Republicans though.
 
speederdoc said:
I agree that the most important support is intangible. If you don't actually support their mission, then you are hurting them. I give them the utmost respect, as I do policemen and firefighters. All of these groups put their lives on the line for us, and deserve every consideration.

I don't charge any of these groups for my medical services, ever. If I'm at a bar and see someone in the service there, I will always buy them a round. I send monthly packages of beef jerky through anysoldier.com. I vote Republican for the most part because I know that most of the Democrats do not have the best interests of the military in mind, and are less interested in keeping our country safe. A Democratic vote for a congressional or presidential candidate is hurting the military, not supporting them. I don't have any widdle stickers on my car, because they are worthless. I do participate in several forums like this to try to explain things to future Republicans though.

Thank you Doc for both the tangible and intangible things you do to support us. Love your last sentence.

BTW.....how are things in your neck of the woods. Busy?
 
speederdoc said:
Not as busy as usual. Business will pick up as folks get back in town.
A friend of mine is a nurse at a big university hospital there. I guess she has been on over 24 hours. I know she's a bit freaked, as her parents were at her home, her dad has inoperable lung cancer and couldn't get out of there. I guess there was no damage to her house, other than some cedar shingles blowing off.
 
Ok guys, honestly ya'll need to stfu. I'm not trying to be an ass but jesus christ, what the hell are you all trying to prove? You guys are just bashing each over your opinions when you know it's not gonna change a thing. Proud has posted way more then once about his stance, same with you Avenger and the rest of you.

How bout we get back to the original question, which had NOTHING to do with how we felt about the gov't (but you all chose to just start bashing Proud for no reason really...), and answer the good, nice, honest question, how are we supporting our troops? It's a good question, and I'm curious to know what you all do so maybe I could change up my charity and do what you all do.

As of right now all I do is, yes, have a sticker on my car, but I also send mail to Uncle who is an NBC Specialist in the USMC. I also send money to the war effort, which isn't much. So yeah, I'd like to hear what you all do, to get some ideas.

Now please, let's just get back to the original point of the thread and stop pointlessly bashing each other... :bangheads


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USMCDevilDog said:
So yeah, I'd like to hear what you all do, to get some ideas.

Attend "Support the Troops" rallys in your community.

Show up at the homecomings.

Most Important thing you can do is

Join a "Family Support Group" in your local community........ask if there is anyone who needs their yard mowed; trees trimmed, garden planted, roof shingles nailed down, winter prep, etc.........there is an infinite number of things one can do to support the troops by participating in family support groups.

Supporting the troops doesn't always mean sending things over to the troops.........offer to help out doing all the things they can't do around the home, so they can focus more on their mission. They are more focused and effective if they know their families are being taken care of.
 
kurtsprincess said:
Attend "Support the Troops" rallys in your community.

Show up at the homecomings.

Most Important thing you can do is

Join a "Family Support Group" in your local community........ask if there is anyone who needs their yard mowed; trees trimmed, garden planted, roof shingles nailed down, winter prep, etc.........there is an infinite number of things one can do to support the troops by participating in family support groups.

Supporting the troops doesn't always mean sending things over to the troops.........offer to help out doing all the things they can't do around the home, so they can focus more on their mission. They are more focused and effective if they know their families are being taken care of.


Hey KP, did you go to one today? I watched the DC one on C-Span. I wish it had better attendance.
 
Kathianne said:
Hey KP, did you go to one today? I watched the DC one on C-Span. I wish it had better attendance.

We had a local "Support" rally in June.

Most of the anti-war people in my area carpooled to SF to join the protests, so thankfully, not much disruption here on Saturday.
 
kurtsprincess said:
Our support is intangible Proud............which can't be listed and we already do all the tangible things you've listed.

Just asking the question shows that you lack understanding of the type of support the troops need.


KP, your being a military wife truly supporting your husband in his work, with all the attendant sacrifices you must make, is a significant contribution in itself. :salute:
 

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