Pharmacists can't refuse Plan B pill

[FA_Q2]

That woman should not have to be inconvienienced by a political nut job. Take the morons license away.

Yes, because it is obvious that your inconvenience is so much more important than my rights.... WAIT A MINUTE....

 

[Contumacious]

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The welfare/warfare state will dictate to any health care provider. They have the guns.

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[Immanuel]

Why not?

They're a private company. Why shouldn't they be able to decide whether they wish to sell condoms, trident gum, Red Vines, or any other given product?

So far we've all called for the Health Department making BC available, and I''m sure few would have any reasonable objection to hospitals making Plan B available.

When you're ready to take Plan B, you have a very short window of time. That is one reason they don't require a prescription, you don't have time to get one from your doc say on a weekend.

You have 72 hours. If that's enough to go to one pharmacy, it's enough to go to another pharmacy or the Department of Family Planning and Women's Health.


In instances of rape, everyone here has voiced support for having the medical professionals make Plan B available to the victims.

You, however, can't keep your story straight and have shown you don't even know what the thread is about.

You can always go to Planned Parenthood. They are becoming as numerous as drug stores so I don't think you will have a problem finding one.

Does Planned Parenthood Have The Morning After Pill/Plan B? - Yahoo! Answers

Immie

 

[JBeukema]

A new law here in Washington forces pharmacies to carry and sell the Plan B pill. Owners of several pharmacies have filed lawsuit based on the freedom of religion claiming that Plan B is against their beliefs and they refuse to sell the contraceptive. Lawmakers are contemplating changing the law to read that they do not have to carry Plan B if they refer customers to a nearby store that does sell the pill.

I wonder what the take on this concept is here. I am somewhat taken aback by this as I would have thought that it would naturally be the right of the business owner to decide what he or she sells. What right does the state have to mandate that a particular business sells anything. I understand regulation and placing limitations on items that a business is allowed to sell but forcing one to sell something seems over the top. What are your thoughts?



Pharmacists can't refuse Plan B pill, appeals court says - Los Angeles Times

Maybe this has been mentioned as I have not read the entire thread, but here is how I would deal with this issue.

"I'm sorry, I am out of stock at the moment and do not know how long it will be before I receive my next shipment."

Every time someone entered my store, they would get the same reply.

The government cannot force me to stock items I do not care to stock.

Immie

I'm the kind of asshole that would stand in front of your store with a sign that reads:

"Woman Hating Pharmacy"

So you're woman who's hating a pharmacy?

 

[JBeukema]

The Pharmacist is not necessarily the owner of the pharmacy. The law had to do with a pharmacist objecting to selling the Plan B pill, not whether they had it in stock.

If you are talking about the employee of the pharmacy that is a different manner. I think those of us on the opposite side from your point of view are looking at it as the owner of the pharmacy. I know that is how I see it.

If I am the employee of the pharmacy and I don't want to sell product that the owner wants to sell, then I can always quit and go elsewhere. I work for the employer. He/she does not work for me.

Immie

Since it is an emergency medication it should be a mandated item. On what basis do you justify denying a rape victim the opportunity to prevent conception from her monster attacker?

Your being a loose slut and not being on BC is not an emergency.

If you were assaulted, go to the ER; everyone's voiced support for making it available there for victims of sexual assault. Or go to the Health Department.

Now, stfu, sit down, and don't speak until you're prepared to be honest.

 

[JBeukema]

The Pharmacist is not necessarily the owner of the pharmacy. The law had to do with a pharmacist objecting to selling the Plan B pill, not whether they had it in stock.

If you are talking about the employee of the pharmacy that is a different manner. I think those of us on the opposite side from your point of view are looking at it as the owner of the pharmacy. I know that is how I see it.

If I am the employee of the pharmacy and I don't want to sell product that the owner wants to sell, then I can always quit and go elsewhere. I work for the employer. He/she does not work for me.

Immie

Well if the owner is selling birth control pills, he should have no objection to Plan B. If the owner is not selling birth control pills, he's a terrible business owner.

If he's a terrible business owner, he'll go out of business.

Market economics 101.

 

[JBeukema]

Since it is an emergency medication it should be a mandated item. On what basis do you justify denying a rape victim the opportunity to prevent conception from her monster attacker?

Bullshit.

The medication is effective if taken within 72 hours - 3 days - from the encounter. It doesn't take 3 days to find a friendly pharmacist.

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Emergency Contraception (Morning After Pill) - Planned Parenthood
Emergency Contraception (Morning After Pill) - Planned Parenthood

Emergency Contraception
Plan B, the one-step Emergency Contraception (EC) Pill
Emergency Contraception

Sucks to be wrong like you.

Your second link extends the period to up to five days

 

[JBeukema]

Omg, you all are really crazy..

Up to 72 hours. Obviously the sooner the better. They aren't saying wait 72 hours then take it.

No, you are.

Are you fucking telling me that you can not find a friendly pharmacist in 72 hours. That you like the thrill of imposing your views on others.

If Pharmacy "A" won't sell them to you then move on to the next.

Jeeeesus fucking christ.

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Oh boy. Another King Kong sized dumbass. Pharms denying the emergency medication are the ones guilty of "imposing views" because they are forcing the results of their moral code onto others.

It's not like women would go in and demand the Pharmacist take the pill you fucking depleted einstein.

So stores that refuse to carry vodka are imposing their moral views on me?

It's not like I'm forcing them to drink it.

 

[JBeukema]

We solved this with the fourth post

tell the gov to STFU and let business chose whether or not to sell a given product. Allow those who sell BC, including Plan B to add their name a list if they wish and require that is a pharmacy does not sell prophylactics/BC, they provide the address and phone number for the Health Department an/or a list of those pharmacies who requested their name be added to the list. Allow the Health Department (or whatever department thereof) to make BC available to those in need.


Where I live, the Health Department has a Department of Family Planning and Women's Health that makes condoms available. This same department can be set up in the city in question and tasked with also providing BC or, if more feasible, guiding those in need to where they might acquire such resources.


That way, the pharmacists are not forced to sell something to do not wish to sell and those in need still have access to BC, including Plan B.


Can we all live with that?

 

[ConHog]

If you are talking about the employee of the pharmacy that is a different manner. I think those of us on the opposite side from your point of view are looking at it as the owner of the pharmacy. I know that is how I see it.

If I am the employee of the pharmacy and I don't want to sell product that the owner wants to sell, then I can always quit and go elsewhere. I work for the employer. He/she does not work for me.

Immie

Since it is an emergency medication it should be a mandated item. On what basis do you justify denying a rape victim the opportunity to prevent conception from her monster attacker?

Your being a loose slut and not being on BC is not an emergency.

If you were assaulted, go to the ER; everyone's voiced support for making it available there for victims of sexual assault. Or go to the Health Department.

Now, stfu, sit down, and don't speak until you're prepared to be honest.

I'm convinced CircleJerk's head would explode before he'd be honest, about anything.

 

[manifold]

There is a litany of examples of business being regulated by government, much of it for good reasons.

Why is this a bad reason?

 

[topspin]

I love that law. The religious morons who don't like it could move to a state that bans that pill.

 

[manifold]

I imagine this would be pretty difficult to enforce (i.e. prove guilt) if a particular pharmacist really didn't want to comply.

Trollup: I'm here to fill a prescription for the plan B pill.
Bible thumping doucher chemist: Oh, I'm sorry dear, but we're fresh out. Should have some with the new delivery tomorrow.

Next day...

Trollup: Can I get that prescription now?
Bible thumping doucher chemist: Oh I'm sorry dear, but for some reason they forgot to include it in today's delivery, check back tomorrow.

Next day...

Trollup: OK man, I really need that f*ck'n prescription.
Bible thumping doucher chemist: I'm sorry dear, but as it happens, they didn't forget to send it at all, turns out I actually forgot to put in on my order. Silly me. Check back tomorrow.

and so on...

 

[JBeukema]

There is a litany of examples of business being regulated by government, much of it for good reasons.

Why is this a bad reason?

Fail. You must show why a regulation should be put in place.

Why should a business owner be forced to sell goods he or she does not wish to sell?

 

[JBeukema]

I love that law. The religious morons who don't like it could move to a state that bans that pill.

You're an idiot.

 

[JBeukema]

Bible thumping doucher chemist

Good to see you're hear to discuss the merits of government determing what a business must sell and not to call names and paint anyone who believes in liberty in the market as a 'bible thumping doucher'

If you're too stupid to go elsewhere, you clearly don't want that particular medication. Especially given the litany of other places where it can be obtained. When in doubt call PP- surely, they'll be more than happy to help you find it.

 

[topspin]

I love that law. The religious morons who don't like it could move to a state that bans that pill.

You're an idiot.

Wow I'm going to lose a nano second of sleep cause mr masingil doesn't like my praise of a shut up religious moron law.

 

[Care4all]

It's NOT any ole business....

Pharmacies and pharmacists are licensed and governed by the State with many rules and regs attached....sort of similar to other businesses such as Liquor Stores or perhaps Gun shops as well.

those who choose to go in to this business are well aware of such government overseers, BEFORE they choose this business as one to go in to.

 

[FA_Q2]

It's NOT any ole business....

Pharmacies and pharmacists are licensed and governed by the State with many rules and regs attached....sort of similar to other businesses such as Liquor Stores or perhaps Gun shops as well.

those who choose to go in to this business are well aware of such government overseers, BEFORE they choose this business as one to go in to.

Sure, but that does not make this regulation correct or proper. For the regulation to stand there should be good reason and purpose for it and as I see it, there is none. No business including a pharmacy should be forced to carry a product. I will ask again, why has no one taken up my challenge on chemotherapy drugs that are not dispensed at a pharmacy but somehow plan b is required?

 

[Care4all]

It's NOT any ole business....

Pharmacies and pharmacists are licensed and governed by the State with many rules and regs attached....sort of similar to other businesses such as Liquor Stores or perhaps Gun shops as well.

those who choose to go in to this business are well aware of such government overseers, BEFORE they choose this business as one to go in to.

Sure, but that does not make this regulation correct or proper. For the regulation to stand there should be good reason and purpose for it and as I see it, there is none. No business including a pharmacy should be forced to carry a product. I will ask again, why has no one taken up my challenge on chemotherapy drugs that are not dispensed at a pharmacy but somehow plan b is required?

This PARTICULAR state government, has chosen this as a rule....not being from this particular state, I HAVE NO SAY in the matter....it is up to the gvt of such state and its citizens that vote the jokers in to office.

I do not know the situation in Washington state that made your government make this law in the first place....you seem to think it is not necessary and you have the right to such decision, since it is your State and you also know more about it....but I do not.

chemotherapy drugs are not administered at home, are they?