Perhaps time to challenge why a POTUS cannot be indicted

[MisterBeale]

Obama set the bar for Presidential indictment very high with Solyndra, Fast and Furious, cash payments to a terrorist state and dereliction of duty as Commander-In-Chief during the Benghazi massacre.

Don't forget to wipe, flush and wash your hands after that "conclusion" that SURELY came out of one of your orifices.....

(don't forget to also include being half black to your list of indictable Obama offenses.)

 

[nat4900]

Perhaps it's time for Jake to have his milk and cookies and study our form of government

Instead of being an eternal asshole on here......try addressing the question posed in the O/P.

 

[rightwinger]

As I've stated often, I do NOT want to see Trump impeached......that would just make him a martyr in the ignorant eyes of his cult membership......I want to see him RESIGN in shame, taking all those spineless republicans down along with him.

Lock him up

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Perhaps it's time for Jake to have his milk and cookies and study our form of government

Instead of being an eternal asshole on here......try addressing the question posed in the O/P.

The OP is from Dumbfuckistan and shows complete and total ignorance of our form of government! Why bother addressing the "merits" of something that was intentionally disregarded at our founding?

You want every State to be able to sue the President? Really? Are you fucking sure???

 

[rightwinger]

I don’t think the intent was for a president to get away with murder

The founders wanted nobody to be above the law

Correct, hence Article II, Section 4.

Once removed from office via the impeachment process a former president and private citizen can be indicted and subject to criminal prosecution.

I believe a President is a private citizen and should not be above the law

 

[nat4900]

Again there is a process in place to remove a President to do so any other way would truly destabilize the government for decades and decades.

NO ONE is disputing the current procedure for impeachment........What this thread is about is the REMOVAL of the DOJ guideline (not a law) for indicting a sitting president on criminal charges when warranted..........This is what this thread is about.

 

[BlackFlag]

The House can impeach, then the Senate elect to remove or not remove the President. This is to protect the office of the Presidency.

What goes around comes around and this would destabilize the office of the President. Short term, fine however the long term effects would be disastrous.

Trump should do what’s best for the country and take the Nixon route of resignation. I wouldn’t support Pence pardoning him, though.

Resign for what?

Lol. Okay we’ll talk again in a couple months.

 

[Polishprince]

If a President is prosecuted, he's like prosecuting himself, which seem pretty pointless.

Nitwits seem to want a "king" sitting in the oval office....someone who is sitting there by "divine right".......We CLEARLY have a separation of powers among equal segments of our governmental system....NO ONE should be above the law....NO ONE!!!.....

The method of deposing the President in America is the Impeachment Process. He's not "above the law" at all. The Special Persecutor is not a separate branch of government, he is part of the executive branch. Nothing in the constitution about Special Prosecutors.

If the libs think they can impeach President Trump, I welcome them to try.

 

[nat4900]

You want every State to be able to sue the President? Really? Are you fucking sure???

MORON.......quite a few states are SUING OBAMACARE.....as you nitwits like to call the law......LOL

 

[nat4900]

Resign for what?

Oh, nothing, nothing.....place your head right back up your ass.

 

[Polishprince]

Again there is a process in place to remove a President to do so any other way would truly destabilize the government for decades and decades.

NO ONE is disputing the current procedure for impeachment........What this thread is about is the REMOVAL of the DOJ guideline (not a law) for indicting a sitting president on criminal charges when warranted..........This is what this thread is about.

Think, nat, for just a second.

Suppose President Trump were indicted and convicted and sent to prison. He would still be President, while hanging out in the yard with the rest of the guys. And considering the fact that the Bureau of Corrections is under his Dept. of Justice, it would be sort of bizarre, no?

 

[Papageorgio]

Again there is a process in place to remove a President to do so any other way would truly destabilize the government for decades and decades.

NO ONE is disputing the current procedure for impeachment........What this thread is about is the REMOVAL of the DOJ guideline (not a law) for indicting a sitting president on criminal charges when warranted..........This is what this thread is about.

And it is a dumb idea for reasons already mentioned. To allow this process to be an exception for this President then enemies of the next President could indict criminal charges on the next. We played this exception game before and it always comes back to bite us. We need to thread softly and let justice take its course through the right channels, then if they impeach Trump, so be it, to tie up a Presidency with indictments would divide the Presidency and harm the nation.

 

[nat4900]

If the libs think they can impeach President Trump, I welcome them to try.

What the fuck is matter with your Trump ass kissers' reading comprehension....

RE-READ the O/P or have a grown up read it and explain it to your half brain.

 

[Papageorgio]

Resign for what?

Oh, nothing, nothing.....place your head right back up your ass.

Nothing but asshole comments by the resident asshole. You are a partisan shithead, of course you nuts are going to cry bitch and moan when your guy isn’t in office. Funny you claim to want a discussion but you really don’t you just want your answers accepted. You are a true intolerant asshole bigot, full of butt hurt because you haven’t had your way. Lol! Thanks for the laugh.

 

[nat4900]

Think, nat, for just a second.

Suppose President Trump were indicted and convicted and sent to prison. He would still be President, while hanging out in the yard with the rest of the guys. And considering the fact that the Bureau of Corrections is under his Dept. of Justice, it would be sort of bizarre, no

No, you asshole..........If a president were to be indicted, tried and sent to prison.....WOULD IT THEN BE the responsibility of both the House and Senate to fully impeach him and the VP taking office????

Yes or fucking No????

 

[MisterBeale]

Lets bear in mind that there is nothing in our Constitution or any statute that prohibits a sitting president from being indicted.......What we have is just an "opinion" from the DOJ basically stating that a president has too many issues to contend with to be burdened with "legal" headaches (never mind the golfing outings and campaign rallies.)

Anyway, under this corrupt administration it may be an optimum time to challenge the notion whether a sitting president is above the law or not....Don't you think?

Indicted for what?

Mueller’s theory: Trump defrauded voters
Mueller's theory: Trump defrauded voters
". . .How does Mueller’s team say Trump defrauded voters? In two ways, apparently. First, he paid money to hide the fact that he had sex with a porn star. The Times explains:


The prosecutors made clear in their memo that they viewed efforts by Mr. Trump’s former personal lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, to squelch the stories as nothing less than a perversion of a democratic election — and by extension they effectively accused the president of defrauding voters, questioning the legitimacy of his victory.


When did it become the role of prosecutors to question the legitimacy of an electoral victory? This must be a recent development. The legitimacy of Barack Obama’s election went unchallenged by the law even though he wrote a fake autobiography and, before his second win, secretly (he thought) promised Russia to be more flexible once those reactionary American voters reelected him.


In 1992, Bill Clinton tasked a team of Arkansas operatives to cover-up his sexual indiscretions. John Kennedy conspired with the media to keep his quiet. Franklin Roosevelt covered up, as best he could, the fact that he couldn’t walk. Kennedy too concealed his medical problems.


The second way Trump “defrauded” voters, according to the Times’ version of Mueller’s theory, was by “continuing to do business with Russia deep into his presidential campaign even as Russian agents made efforts to influence him.” The Times goes on to note that Trump’s operation was pursuing a proposed Trump Tower in Moscow until June 2016, whereas the campaign’s line was that the deal had collapsed in January.. . ."

 

[Polishprince]

Think, nat, for just a second.

Suppose President Trump were indicted and convicted and sent to prison. He would still be President, while hanging out in the yard with the rest of the guys. And considering the fact that the Bureau of Corrections is under his Dept. of Justice, it would be sort of bizarre, no

No, you asshole..........If a president were to be indicted, tried and sent to prison.....WOULD IT THEN BE the responsibility of both the House and Senate to fully impeach him and the VP taking office????

Yes or fucking No????

No, not at all. If the House and Senate didn't believe he was guilty, they would have a moral obligation to acquit him of the charges. Why would they be "obliged" to remove him from office and annul a lawful election? They are a co-equal branch of government with their own will.

 

[Lesh]

The method of deposing the President in America is the Impeachment Process. He's not "above the law" at all. The Special Persecutor is not a separate branch of government, he is part of the executive branch. Nothing in the constitution about Special Prosecutors.

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The Constitution does NOT preclude indictment

Suppose President Trump were indicted and convicted and sent to prison. He would still be President, while hanging out in the yard with the rest of the guys. And considering the fact that the Bureau of Corrections is under his Dept. of Justice, it would be sort of bizarre, no?

The 25th Amendment. Unable to perform....

 

[nat4900]

Mueller’s theory: Trump defrauded voters
Mueller's theory: Trump defrauded voters

Power Line


RIGHT BIAS

 

[rightwinger]

Interesting dilemma

What if a third of the Senate is willing to overlook criminal acts to maintain political power?

 

[Polishprince]

The method of deposing the President in America is the Impeachment Process. He's not "above the law" at all. The Special Persecutor is not a separate branch of government, he is part of the executive branch. Nothing in the constitution about Special Prosecutors.

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The Constitution does NOT preclude indictment

Suppose President Trump were indicted and convicted and sent to prison. He would still be President, while hanging out in the yard with the rest of the guys. And considering the fact that the Bureau of Corrections is under his Dept. of Justice, it would be sort of bizarre, no?

The 25th Amendment. Unable to perform....

Why would someone be "unable to perform"? A lot of guys have jobs in prison.