Perhaps the most outrageous of all of Obama's endless lies

Because Obama personally denied the requests, right after Hillary did- just to make sure they got the idea that the head people in charge had gotten their mails, and were none to convinced.

That's sarcasm, by the way.
 
I believe it was Gen. Ham who offered additional military assets to Stevens for security and had nothing to do with the State Department's budget.

I think Chatty Kathy got a little confused.

Yes sweetie - you did get a little confused. Because Ambassador Stevens requested additional security over and over as did all of the RSO's who rotated through there.

Keep trying to defend Obama sweetie - the more you do the more you just bury both of you!

President Obama response to the situation needs no defending. He immediately gave his commanders orders to use all available DoD asset to save lives. Two Americans were already dead and two more died when the response team sent from Tripoli arrived at the secret CIA Annex to help evacuate the Americans.

Everything you just said was 100% inaccurate.

First of all, the Obama Administration denied requests for proper security. None of this even happens of they have proper security.

Second, all personnel was ordered to stand down. Obama watched the entire attack via feed from a predator drone. He could have unleashed ONE hellfire missile into the crowd of terrorists and ended the attack instantly. He didn't because he didn't want his illegal black operation to come to light. Better that the people involved die than Obama risk losing the power he so craves.

Here are some facts to correct the made up version by blind...

“At least two elite American military teams had been readied to fly into Benghazi the night of the siege, but neither actually made it. One was a contingent of some fifty U.S. Marines, forming up a FAST—Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team—force, based at Rota, in Spain, a short flight across the Mediterranean from Benghazi. That team was hindered in its response because it lacked “dedicated airlift”—in other words, air transport—at its location (air transport was in Germany). Even if airlift had been available, it’s unlikely the FAST force would have been able to arrive in time to save the lives of those killed in the attack.

A team of Special Operations forces was sent out from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and one was on standby in nearby Croatia—but neither team was given clearance to enter Libya, even though at least one was only a short flight away in Europe. There were also U.S. warplanes based at Aviano Air Base, in Italy—again just a short flight away across the Mediterranean—but the only U.S. air assets deployed over Benghazi the night of the Mission and the Annex attacks were the Predator drones.”

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Oh lord, this again, why weren't AC-130's deployed to rain down Gatling Guns and Howitzers, Why didn't F-16's do fly-by's, why can't President Obama and his State Department see the future and 100% prevent attacks like this.

Do you even have a source that says the Drone they had deployed over the area was armed?
 
Oh lord, this again, why weren't AC-130's deployed to rain down Gatling Guns and Howitzers, Why didn't F-16's do fly-by's, why can't President Obama and his State Department see the future and 100% prevent attacks like this.

Do you even have a source that says the Drone they had deployed over the area was armed?

Yes because it was a predator drone (only armed drones are predator drones)
 
“If the same numbers of Shariah Brigade fighters had hit the Embassy, but it had had proper physical security measures in place, plus the weaponry and personnel along the lines that we had repeatedly requested, the attackers would have been repulsed, or at the very least held off until everyone was safely evacuated. That is the saddest part of this whole sorry and tragic tale.”

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I agree that Benghazigate is a gigantic lie and would offer though the BIGGEST MOST outlandish LIE i.e. has cost More Americans money and anxiety is the LIE that there were 46 million "uninsured".
All before ACA was passed Obama repeated "We are not a nation that accepts nearly 46 million uninsured men, women and children,"
and NOW even Obama has said 10 million used in the 46 million are NOT to be covered by ACA.. so why did he use 46 million?

And NO one seems to be holding Obama's feet to the fire as to WHY 14 million people totally eligible for Medicaid were included in the 46 million!
So if Obama drops the 10 million now and 14 million aren't registered under PRE-ACA Medicaid then it was Obama's administrative fault and definitely not
be used in the 46 million phony number.

finally WHY are we forcing 18 million that spend less then their employers health plan a year on health services as they are under 34 and don't need it!

When this gigantic lie of 46 million is reduced by the 42 million above exceptions.. that leaves a gigantic LIE of 46 million exposed as really 4 million!
4 Million! Folks this gigantic blown up by 10 times exaggeration is costing Americans their lives literally as some peoples insurance is NOW being cancelled
that was keeping them alive. Where are those anecdotal stories from the MSM ?
 
WHY are you forcing your way in here talking about things that have nothing to do with the topic of the thread?

Truly, that is the biggest injustice here on this board, right now, today, as we speak, and stand, and stuff.
 
The Obama Administration turned down the request for proper security on dozens and dozens of occasions. No less than 9 different RSO's (Regional Security Officers who rotated through that facility) pleaded for the proper security measures for the Benghazi safe house. All of it was ignored by Obama and Hillary Clinton. When their own people were brutally murdered - the Obama Administration immediately pissed on their graves and their memories by knowingly lying about situation and falsely claiming it was a "YouTube protest" so they could cover their own ass against their egregious negligence.

The logic that is laughable. Why would "protestors" randomly target an unknown facility which just happened to have Americans inside and who had NOTHING to do with the YouTube video? It was targeted after intelligence indicated that facility was being utilized by America for black ops (they were using it to over see operations for arming terrorists for the uprising in Libya and once Gaddafi was overthrown, the terrorists turned on us like rapid wolves).

“On September 16 the Libyan president, Mohammed Magariaf, announced that the attack on the Benghazi Mission was planned many months in advance: “The idea that this criminal and cowardly act was a spontaneous protest that just spun out of control is completely unfounded and preposterous... this was a pre-calculated, preplanned attack that was carried out specifically to attack the U.S. consulate.”

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“The FBI guy asked me a bunch more probing questions - “What did you think of the RSOs?”
“Utterly faultless. They were brilliant and they worked tirelessly in tough, shitty conditions. They continuously asked for more manpower, weaponry, and equipment and they were continuously denied.” I caught the eye of the guy from the State Department. “If they’d got it we wouldn’t be here now, obviously.”

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Why beat a dead horse? It's over. There is no conspiracy. And certainly no revelation.

U.S. official sought more security for Benghazi post ? CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

The Obama Administration turned down the request for proper security on dozens and dozens of occasions. No less than 9 different RSO's (Regional Security Officers who rotated through that facility) pleaded for the proper security measures for the Benghazi safe house. All of it was ignored by Obama and Hillary Clinton

You do know what the chain of command is?? It does not start at the top..

It's such an easy concept the idiots just cannot understand...
 
Yes because it was a predator drone (only armed drones are predator drones)

Wha...No, Predator is it's name, MQ-1 Predator, it was apparently the Predator before it even had the ability to be armed.

General Atomics MQ-1 Predator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Only armed drones are predator drones (specifically armed with hellfire missiles)

You say that, but haven't actually provided any proof, Wiki might not be the best source ever but it's better then no source I'd think. It was the RQ-1 Predator at some point, and that point was before it could carry any weapons, so it appears that you are wrong, however if you can perhaps prove me wrong I'm waiting.
 
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Wha...No, Predator is it's name, MQ-1 Predator, it was apparently the Predator before it even had the ability to be armed.

General Atomics MQ-1 Predator - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Only armed drones are predator drones (specifically armed with hellfire missiles)

You say that, but haven't actually provided any proof, Wiki might not be the best source ever but it's better then no source I'd think. It was the RQ-1 Predator at some point, and that point was before it could carry any weapons, so it appears that you are wrong, however if you can perhaps prove me wrong I'm waiting.

This is the equivalent of asking me to prove my name to you. I know what I know. Predator drones are armed with hellfire missiles.

I'll try to find something for you but I'm thinking the DoD is not going to let me into their network this evening just to enlighten you.
 
It's more like asking you to prove that your name officially changes when you put on a pair of shoes. That being said, there's no other name for an RQ or MQ-1, there are other names for MQ-1 variants but only ones that can carry weapons anyway.

More importantly, News stories and such always call them Predators, AND if they're not going to change the name from Predator in any information you can find online, why would they not just call it Predator in official releases regardless of it having a weapon or not?
 
It's more like asking you to prove that your name officially changes when you put on a pair of shoes. That being said, there's no other name for an RQ or MQ-1, there are other names for MQ-1 variants but only ones that can carry weapons anyway.

More importantly, News stories and such always call them Predators, AND if they're not going to change the name from Predator in any information you can find online, why would they not just call it Predator in official releases regardless of it having a weapon or not?

Because there are drones that are simply reconnaissance drones and then there are predator drones which also have strike capabilities.
 
Yes sweetie - you did get a little confused. Because Ambassador Stevens requested additional security over and over as did all of the RSO's who rotated through there.

Keep trying to defend Obama sweetie - the more you do the more you just bury both of you!

President Obama response to the situation needs no defending. He immediately gave his commanders orders to use all available DoD asset to save lives. Two Americans were already dead and two more died when the response team sent from Tripoli arrived at the secret CIA Annex to help evacuate the Americans.

Everything you just said was 100% inaccurate.

First of all, the Obama Administration denied requests for proper security. None of this even happens of they have proper security.

Second, all personnel was ordered to stand down. Obama watched the entire attack via feed from a predator drone. He could have unleashed ONE hellfire missile into the crowd of terrorists and ended the attack instantly. He didn't because he didn't want his illegal black operation to come to light. Better that the people involved die than Obama risk losing the power he so craves.

Here are some facts to correct the made up version by blind...

“At least two elite American military teams had been readied to fly into Benghazi the night of the siege, but neither actually made it. One was a contingent of some fifty U.S. Marines, forming up a FAST—Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team—force, based at Rota, in Spain, a short flight across the Mediterranean from Benghazi. That team was hindered in its response because it lacked “dedicated airlift”—in other words, air transport—at its location (air transport was in Germany). Even if airlift had been available, it’s unlikely the FAST force would have been able to arrive in time to save the lives of those killed in the attack.

A team of Special Operations forces was sent out from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and one was on standby in nearby Croatia—but neither team was given clearance to enter Libya, even though at least one was only a short flight away in Europe. There were also U.S. warplanes based at Aviano Air Base, in Italy—again just a short flight away across the Mediterranean—but the only U.S. air assets deployed over Benghazi the night of the Mission and the Annex attacks were the Predator drones.”

Excerpt From: Jones, Morgan. “The Embassy House.” Threshold Editions. iBooks.
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Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

Panetta, Dempsey defend U.S. response to Benghazi attack - CNN.com

CIA security contractors loaded into two vehicles, with weapons ready, the moment they heard the radio call for help from the diplomatic building. Some wanted to rush to the U.S. compound roughly a mile away, and their agitation grew as they heard increasing panic when the diplomats reported the militants were setting the compound on fire.

The CIA team leader and the CIA chief at the Benghazi annex told committee members that they were trying to gather Libyan allies and intelligence before racing into the fray, worried that they might be sending their security team into an ambush with little or no backup.

At least one of those security contractors, a former U.S. Army Ranger, was told to "wait" at least twice, and he argued with his security team leader, according to his testimony, related by Westmoreland.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report
 
President Obama response to the situation needs no defending. He immediately gave his commanders orders to use all available DoD asset to save lives. Two Americans were already dead and two more died when the response team sent from Tripoli arrived at the secret CIA Annex to help evacuate the Americans.

Everything you just said was 100% inaccurate.

First of all, the Obama Administration denied requests for proper security. None of this even happens of they have proper security.

Second, all personnel was ordered to stand down. Obama watched the entire attack via feed from a predator drone. He could have unleashed ONE hellfire missile into the crowd of terrorists and ended the attack instantly. He didn't because he didn't want his illegal black operation to come to light. Better that the people involved die than Obama risk losing the power he so craves.

Here are some facts to correct the made up version by blind...

“At least two elite American military teams had been readied to fly into Benghazi the night of the siege, but neither actually made it. One was a contingent of some fifty U.S. Marines, forming up a FAST—Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team—force, based at Rota, in Spain, a short flight across the Mediterranean from Benghazi. That team was hindered in its response because it lacked “dedicated airlift”—in other words, air transport—at its location (air transport was in Germany). Even if airlift had been available, it’s unlikely the FAST force would have been able to arrive in time to save the lives of those killed in the attack.

A team of Special Operations forces was sent out from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and one was on standby in nearby Croatia—but neither team was given clearance to enter Libya, even though at least one was only a short flight away in Europe. There were also U.S. warplanes based at Aviano Air Base, in Italy—again just a short flight away across the Mediterranean—but the only U.S. air assets deployed over Benghazi the night of the Mission and the Annex attacks were the Predator drones.”

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Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

Panetta, Dempsey defend U.S. response to Benghazi attack - CNN.com

CIA security contractors loaded into two vehicles, with weapons ready, the moment they heard the radio call for help from the diplomatic building. Some wanted to rush to the U.S. compound roughly a mile away, and their agitation grew as they heard increasing panic when the diplomats reported the militants were setting the compound on fire.

The CIA team leader and the CIA chief at the Benghazi annex told committee members that they were trying to gather Libyan allies and intelligence before racing into the fray, worried that they might be sending their security team into an ambush with little or no backup.

At least one of those security contractors, a former U.S. Army Ranger, was told to wait at least twice, and he argued with his security team leader, according to his testimony, related by Westmoreland.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

So now you are actually corroborating what you were previously arguing against.
 
Everything you just said was 100% inaccurate.

First of all, the Obama Administration denied requests for proper security. None of this even happens of they have proper security.

Second, all personnel was ordered to stand down. Obama watched the entire attack via feed from a predator drone. He could have unleashed ONE hellfire missile into the crowd of terrorists and ended the attack instantly. He didn't because he didn't want his illegal black operation to come to light. Better that the people involved die than Obama risk losing the power he so craves.

Here are some facts to correct the made up version by blind...

“At least two elite American military teams had been readied to fly into Benghazi the night of the siege, but neither actually made it. One was a contingent of some fifty U.S. Marines, forming up a FAST—Fleet Antiterrorism Security Team—force, based at Rota, in Spain, a short flight across the Mediterranean from Benghazi. That team was hindered in its response because it lacked “dedicated airlift”—in other words, air transport—at its location (air transport was in Germany). Even if airlift had been available, it’s unlikely the FAST force would have been able to arrive in time to save the lives of those killed in the attack.

A team of Special Operations forces was sent out from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and one was on standby in nearby Croatia—but neither team was given clearance to enter Libya, even though at least one was only a short flight away in Europe. There were also U.S. warplanes based at Aviano Air Base, in Italy—again just a short flight away across the Mediterranean—but the only U.S. air assets deployed over Benghazi the night of the Mission and the Annex attacks were the Predator drones.”

Excerpt From: Jones, Morgan. “The Embassy House.” Threshold Editions. iBooks.
This material may be protected by copyright. Check out this book on the iBooks Store: iTunes

Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

Panetta, Dempsey defend U.S. response to Benghazi attack - CNN.com

CIA security contractors loaded into two vehicles, with weapons ready, the moment they heard the radio call for help from the diplomatic building. Some wanted to rush to the U.S. compound roughly a mile away, and their agitation grew as they heard increasing panic when the diplomats reported the militants were setting the compound on fire.

The CIA team leader and the CIA chief at the Benghazi annex told committee members that they were trying to gather Libyan allies and intelligence before racing into the fray, worried that they might be sending their security team into an ambush with little or no backup.

At least one of those security contractors, a former U.S. Army Ranger, was told to wait at least twice, and he argued with his security team leader, according to his testimony, related by Westmoreland.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

So now you are actually corroborating what you were previously arguing against.

Two items. First, the drone. It was unarmed and didn't arrive until after the attack on the Consulate was over. Second, no stand down order was given. The CIA team leader in Benghazi waited 25 minutes before allowing the team to advance on the Consulate.
 
You gotta wonder why all these folks who were "begging and pleading" for more security were doing in a dangerous place like Benghazi.

Especially on September 11 just after a criminal made a film that shitted on the religion in the region and put it on youtube..

Um...they were ordered to be there junior, by Obama.... :eusa_doh:

Are you on some illegal substance this afternoon? You're not even coherent right now...

The security detail now is suppose to be provided by the host nation...

Just for you rotty , now neg me again for your ignorance....

RSOs also manage a worldwide force of 33,000 local
guards that protects the perimeters of U.S. diplomatic
facilities. Local guards, usually citizens of the host nation,
patrol the grounds and inspect vehicles, visitors, and
packages. They also respond to alarms and requests
for assistance.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/114173.pdf
 
Um...they were ordered to be there junior, by Obama.... :eusa_doh:

Are you on some illegal substance this afternoon? You're not even coherent right now...

The security detail now is suppose to be provided by the host nation...

Just for you rotty , now neg me again for your ignorance....

RSOs also manage a worldwide force of 33,000 local
guards that protects the perimeters of U.S. diplomatic facilities. Local guards, usually citizens of the host nation, patrol the grounds and inspect vehicles, visitors, and packages. They also respond to alarms and requests for assistance.

http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/114173.pdf

It's called "reading comprehension" junior (and I've highlighted a key word for you above)... :lmao:

The local people employed are not employed by the host nation (ie it is not the responsibility of the host nation). They are not military or government security of the host nation. They are independent contractors - and are usually employed as QRF (quick reaction force). It's essentially private security contractors though not quite on that level and thus why they are employed as QRF - because they are cheaper and provide additional support only when "the shit hits the fan".

Trust me when I tell you this junior, you are way out of your league if you want to start discussing private security, embassy security, or general security with me.

So now that you just proved you are wrong (and proved you have at least some form of reading comprehension issues), would you like to stop where you are or keep digging?
 
Within 17 minutes, Panetta said, an unarmed, unmanned surveillance aircraft was dispatched to give U.S. officials a better idea of what was happening. It arrived at the site about 70 minutes after the attack, he said.

Panetta, Dempsey defend U.S. response to Benghazi attack - CNN.com

CIA security contractors loaded into two vehicles, with weapons ready, the moment they heard the radio call for help from the diplomatic building. Some wanted to rush to the U.S. compound roughly a mile away, and their agitation grew as they heard increasing panic when the diplomats reported the militants were setting the compound on fire.

The CIA team leader and the CIA chief at the Benghazi annex told committee members that they were trying to gather Libyan allies and intelligence before racing into the fray, worried that they might be sending their security team into an ambush with little or no backup.

At least one of those security contractors, a former U.S. Army Ranger, was told to wait at least twice, and he argued with his security team leader, according to his testimony, related by Westmoreland.

CIA Benghazi team clash led to 'stand down' report

So now you are actually corroborating what you were previously arguing against.

Two items. First, the drone. It was unarmed and didn't arrive until after the attack on the Consulate was over. Second, no stand down order was given. The CIA team leader in Benghazi waited 25 minutes before allowing the team to advance on the Consulate.

It was "unarmed" according to the Obama Administration. Considering their egregious history of lying, that doesn't mean a whole lot.

But....

Lets just say they are telling the truth (for once). That further illustrates the utter incompetency of Obama and his administration if they would deny dozens and dozens of security requests from their experts on the ground and then send an unarmed UAV into the fray when their people were being slaughtered by a large terrorist faction.
 

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